All things Racist...USA edition (3 Viewers)

[Farb]

I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The point wasn't presented well, but if we read the opinion piece, I think it gives clarity to what Farb is trying to say, and it is not that he's attributing sentience to the sidewalks: the writer is claiming that the behavior of white people while walking on the sidewalks at NW is rooted in racism and white supremacy because "they don't move".

I read it and I am aware of the point being made. The portion of Farb's comment that I bolded had nothing to do with what it actually said. My goal was to try to cut through his intentionally over-the-top bullshirt and get to the issue at hand.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

That is a great question. I will be completely honest. I am not sure how to target aid for those under privilege communities.
I do know what has been in policy and legislation is not working and is almost having the opposite intended effect. I am by no ways saying that the policy/legislation was nefarious in its creation but as government often does, it screws up the even the best laid plans.
https://blackdemographics.com/households/marriage-in-black-america/

The marriage in the US is going down over all groups. Prior to 1970 black males and black women were more likely to be married than their white counterparts. In 1970 that changes significantly. Why? I think one of many issues leading to that was child welfare and the states replacement as the 'father'. This is not just a 'black' phenomenon, I am well aware but it is interesting.
I was at an event the Christmas before covid hit at an historically black church and I was sitting with a lot of the older men (30 to 70s I would guess- I was also the only white person there- I know, so progressive) and they were talking about the problems with the young men and women in their congregation. One guy was a resource councilor in a pretty rough high school in the city and the overwhelming consensus was it was the lack of involvement of the parents. Again, this is not just a black community thing. Why is that?
I think boys need a father figure in order to learn to control the aggression and ambition and how to turn that into good. The state is not that figure.

https://www.theroot.com/black-women-now-the-most-educated-group-in-us-1790855540
I know this article actually tries to deal with the gender pay gap (surprise! I think that is garbage too) but it is clear that access to improve your own success is available in this country despite the sex and race of the individual. There needs to be more self accountability across the board but instead, everyone just blames everything else. I saw recently a black lady saying that racism is the reason that diets don't work for black women. That is just being lazy.
If you want to be successful in this country, graduate high school, work full time and get married. Don't have a child until you are married. Pretty simple (as I sit here single with a kid).
Something needs to be done. What, I am unsure. I am more than open to suggestions.

edited to add: I think any policy that locks out anyone else based on the color of their skin or what is between their legs should not be legal. A few months ago that would be considered racist but now, with the new definition determines by (?), I guess it is not now.

Are you saying that the gender pay gap itself is garbage or the discussion around it is garbage? Or something else entirely that I am missing?

 

[SystemShock]

My goal was to try to cut through his intentionally over-the-top bullshirt and get to the issue at hand.

Good luck with that

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Good luck with that

What can I say? I'm a masochist.

 

[bird]

https://www.fox17.com/news/local/lawsuit-challenges-restaurant-aid-priority-to-women-minorities

Good for them.

Ah, poor white men.

 

[Saintamaniac]

https://www.fox17.com/news/local/lawsuit-challenges-restaurant-aid-priority-to-women-minorities

Good for them.

This has nothing to do with racism...not one damn thing

 

[V Chip]

Prior to 1970 black males and black women were more likely to be married than their white counterparts. In 1970 that changes significantly. Why? I think one of many issues leading to that was child welfare and the states replacement as the 'father'.

Child welfare, really? The state replacing the father? Man, that's a reach.

Part of it is the sexual revolution and women breaking free of being almost legally bound to stay married for many reasons...

But don't ya think a lot of that has to do with things like this?

(And also realize that by far the largest growing portion of that rate per 100K was black males.) The "get tough on crime" push from mostly (but not exclusively) conservative voices and the war on drugs led to massive increases in the incarceration rates, especially of black males.

"Child welfare" is the cause...

 

[samiam5211]

Ah, poor white men.

No one has more to lose in the war for equality than white men.

 

[bird]

No one has more to lose in the war for equality than white men.

God save us from mediocre white men.

 

[Saintamaniac]

Child welfare, really? The state replacing the father? Man, that's a reach.

Part of it is the sexual revolution and women breaking free of being almost legally bound to stay married for many reasons...

But don't ya think a lot of that has to do with things like this?

(And also realize that by far the largest growing portion of that rate per 100K was black males.) The "get tough on crime" push from mostly (but not exclusively) conservative voices and the war on drugs led to massive increases in the incarceration rates, especially of black males.

"Child welfare" is the cause...

The fact that the incarceration rate for blacks who only make up 13% of the population is damn near double that of white people who made up 70% or higher of the population really is telling. But, America is not a racist country.

Then once the US government introduced crack cocaine into the black community in the 1980's, the imprisonment rate shot up.

 

[DaveXA]

The fact that the incarceration rate for blacks who only make up 13% of the population is damn near double that of white people who made up 70% or higher of the population really is telling. But, America is not a racist country.

Then once the US government introduced crack cocaine into the black community in the 1980's, the imprisonment rate shot up.

How did the government introduce crack into the black community? I thought the cartels did that?

 

[Saint by the Bay]

How did the government introduce crack into the black community? I thought the cartels did that?

The CIA was working with drug dealers in minority neighborhoods. They brought cocaine in and took the money and used it to fund the resistance to the spread of communism in south and central America. It's well documented (not a conspiracy theory) but it's never been clear just how high it went up in the government.

They didn't directly push crack, just powder, but once crack was "discovered" the amount of cocaine they were pushing into the inner cities went through the roof.

 

[DaveXA]

The CIA was working with drug dealers in minority neighborhoods. They brought cocaine in and took the money and used it to fund the resistance to the spread of communism in south and central America. It's well documented (not a conspiracy theory) but it's never been clear just how high it went up in the government.

They didn't directly push crack, just powder, but once crack was "discovered" the amount of cocaine they were pushing into the inner cities went through the roof.

Yeah, I guess it was never official policy, and I'm not well-versed on the subject. But, thanks for explaining it in a nutshell.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The fact that the incarceration rate for blacks who only make up 13% of the population is damn near double that of white people who made up 70% or higher of the population really is telling. But, America is not a racist country.

Then once the US government introduced crack cocaine into the black community in the 1980's, the imprisonment rate shot up.

Yep. If someone doesn't believe it's the system, then what do they think explains this?

 

[Farb]

Are you saying that the gender pay gap itself is garbage or the discussion around it is garbage? Or something else entirely that I am missing?

Both, well probably all 3.

 

[Farb]

Ah, poor white men.

Ah, poor passive aggressive theys.

 

[Farb]

The fact that the incarceration rate for blacks who only make up 13% of the population is damn near double that of white people who made up 70% or higher of the population really is telling. But, America is not a racist country.

Then once the US government introduced crack cocaine into the black community in the 1980's, the imprisonment rate shot up.

Would you like to post the stats for violent crimes committed by race? Take into account of that 100% of that 13% are not criminals at all but good people, then maybe 5%, 2%, 1% (?) of the 13% are engaged in criminal activity. That is a lot of crime for an extremely small sample size. Probably related to the progressive social ideas to 'help' the black community.

Also, something to think about on a completely unrelated note, do we think the black population would still be 13% of the population if abortions in the black community were not so easily available and fought for? I know, totally different discuss for a completely different topic. I just find it strange that white liberals supposedly 'care about' the black community but also apparently want to make sure they remain a minority group. Something I have been thinking about. I know it will be received with an open mind. LOL

Ah, poor white men.

This has nothing to do with racism...not one damn thing

No one has more to lose in the war for equality than white men.

God save us from mediocre white men.

Well, by the responses, I would say this absolutely has everything to do with racism. @samiam5211 are we talking equality or equity?

 

[brandon]

Would you like to post the stats for violent crimes committed by race? Take into account of that 100% of that 13% are not criminals at all but good people, then maybe 5%, 2%, 1% (?) of the 13% are engaged in criminal activity. That is a lot of crime for an extremely small sample size. Probably related to the progressive social ideas to 'help' the black community.

Do you believe black people are more likely to commit crimes than white people when all other variables (poverty, drugs, enforcement, etc) are constant?