All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (2 Viewers)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[DaveXA]

I know this sounds uncaring,but as far as i'm concerned if you take medical advice from a politician
and not a MD,you deserve what you get.

Definitely.

 

[DaveXA]

I know this sounds uncaring,but as far as i'm concerned if you take medical advice from a politician
and not a MD,you deserve what you get.

Hell, I wish they could be held liable for giving medical advice. They should be required to state disclaimers before making their ignorant comments.

 

[MT15]

Women are being forced to let politicians make their medical decisions.

 

[faceman]

Women are being forced to let politicians make their medical decisions.

True,but the corona vaccine is a different subject. Getting vaccinated is a choice. Sadly,choosing to terminate
a pregnancy is no longer a choice.

 

[MT15]

Wherein Brigitte shows why she’s unqualified to discuss medical issues.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Wherein Brigitte shows why she’s unqualified to discuss medical issues.

What could have caused the defect he's had since birth? Definitely the vaccine he took last year...

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

The Covid deniers/anti vaxxers were making fun at everytime some one died, like in a car wreck or anything non Covid related, they would be like, oooh, i guess another "death forn Covid". Now they are being serious about everytime someone dies, its from the vaccine... smh...

 

[zztop]

everyone ready for a good laugh?

Nearly 40% were baselessly concerned that vaccines could cause their dog to develop autism

 

[Optimus Prime]

First lady Jill Biden tests positive for Covid ahead of president’s key G20 trip

Joe Biden has tested negative, White House confirms

www.the-independent.com

 

[MT15]

This guy is totally correct. When they say “leave it up to individuals”, that excludes anyone who thinks differently than they do. Individuals who own a business aren’t allowed to take the steps they want to take to keep their employees safe. Selfish jerks.

 

[Optimus Prime]

As school gets underway and coronavirus cases rise, masks are returning to some American classrooms — and reviving the country’s fraught political debate over whether face coverings are common sense or an abridgment of freedom.


In Maryland this week, an elementary school principal mandated several days of mask-wearing for a class of kindergartners after at least four people tested positive for the virus.

New York’s governor announced a plan to distribute free N95 and KN95 masks to schools this fall, although the state is not requiring their use.

And in Alabama, a junior high school in Sumter County declared in late August that mask-wearing would begin again for everyone — students, staff and visitors.


Even though these campuses are the exception, as few schools require masks, lawmakers and presidential candidates have seized on the issue.

A group of Senate Republicans unveiled legislation this week to prohibit federal mask mandates on domestic air travel, public transit and public schools through the end of 2024.

On Wednesday, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) shared a warning in response to the Maryland elementary school action: “If you want to voluntarily wear a mask, fine, but leave our kids the hell alone.” (The school, Rosemary Hills in Silver Spring, boosted security and kept recess indoors because of online backlash the same day.)

Former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination, suggested in a Fox News interview Wednesday that mandated school mask-wearing is an attack on parental rights, and former president Donald Trump promised last month that, if reelected, he would “use every available authority to cut federal funding to any school” that imposed a mask rule.

School administrators say they are not eager to relive the bitter fights over masks and vaccination that dominated the first two years of the pandemic. Josh Tovar, a high school principal in Texas’s Garland Independent School District, said his campus is seeing a spike in student and staff infections that is depriving some classes of teachers.

But, Tovar said, he would never consider requiring masks again, even if he had that power.
“There’s just a different mentality here in this state in regard to the mask,” he said. “I literally just left a principals’ meeting where we discussed seeing an uptick, but no one mentioned or thought to bring up requiring masks. It’s not on the radar.”


Others are taking half-measures.

In Alabama, Talladega City Schools shared a short post in late August encouraging mask-wearing. But officials stopped short of a requirement, said Superintendent Quentin J. Lee, despite the surge of cases in his district and the emails from teachers concerned about infection. The Talladega Facebook post says: “Please note this is not a mask mandate.”


Lee said he wanted to tread carefully because “it’s a very polarized subject.” He still remembers politically and racially tinged complaints about mask-wearing from earlier in the pandemic…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/06/school-mask-mandate-politics/

 

[Optimus Prime]

Covid-19 deaths are inevitable in Florida, Democrats are warning, after rightwing Republican governor Ron DeSantis joined the state’s controversial surgeon general in urging residents to ignore public health advice and avoid new vaccines targeting a resurgence of the virus.

The extraordinary advice came at a feisty press conference in Jacksonville this week that was also marred by an unseemly shouting match between DeSantis, a candidate for his party’s presidential nomination, and a Black Air Force veteran.

Lashing out at what he called the “medical authoritarianism” of mask mandates and other anti-Covid measures, DeSantis accused federal health agencies of being “basically an arm of Big Pharma” as they mulled authorizing the vaccines as early as next week.

“Pharma will make more money if this thing is approved and they start pushing it on everybody,” said DeSantis, touting Florida’s “freedom” from vaccine mandates.……

DeSantis backs Florida surgeon general in urging residents against new Covid vaccines

Democrats say deaths will follow false claim by Dr Joseph Ladapo that new boosters were not tested on humans

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Covid-19 deaths are inevitable in Florida, Democrats are warning, after rightwing Republican governor Ron DeSantis joined the state’s controversial surgeon general in urging residents to ignore public health advice and avoid new vaccines targeting a resurgence of the virus.

The extraordinary advice came at a feisty press conference in Jacksonville this week that was also marred by an unseemly shouting match between DeSantis, a candidate for his party’s presidential nomination, and a Black Air Force veteran.

Lashing out at what he called the “medical authoritarianism” of mask mandates and other anti-Covid measures, DeSantis accused federal health agencies of being “basically an arm of Big Pharma” as they mulled authorizing the vaccines as early as next week.

“Pharma will make more money if this thing is approved and they start pushing it on everybody,” said DeSantis, touting Florida’s “freedom” from vaccine mandates.……

DeSantis backs Florida surgeon general in urging residents against new Covid vaccines

Democrats say deaths will follow false claim by Dr Joseph Ladapo that new boosters were not tested on humans

www.theguardian.com

but is less Floridians a bad thing?

 

[fooferdoggie]

Covid-19 deaths are inevitable in Florida, Democrats are warning, after rightwing Republican governor Ron DeSantis joined the state’s controversial surgeon general in urging residents to ignore public health advice and avoid new vaccines targeting a resurgence of the virus.

The extraordinary advice came at a feisty press conference in Jacksonville this week that was also marred by an unseemly shouting match between DeSantis, a candidate for his party’s presidential nomination, and a Black Air Force veteran.

Lashing out at what he called the “medical authoritarianism” of mask mandates and other anti-Covid measures, DeSantis accused federal health agencies of being “basically an arm of Big Pharma” as they mulled authorizing the vaccines as early as next week.

“Pharma will make more money if this thing is approved and they start pushing it on everybody,” said DeSantis, touting Florida’s “freedom” from vaccine mandates.……

DeSantis backs Florida surgeon general in urging residents against new Covid vaccines

Democrats say deaths will follow false claim by Dr Joseph Ladapo that new boosters were not tested on humans

www.theguardian.com

I started calling him sturgeon general cause he has a fish brain.

 

[Dragon]

I've just booked time for the yearly flu and Covid shots. Really no big deal and easy and free to do. Just show up, get in line, present your arm, get the shots, sit and enjoy a cup of tea for 30 minutes (in case of bad reactions) and then head back to work. Yes I have had Covid 3 times, The first before the vaccines and the 2 next one year appart, The first one was the really bad one - the second time I managed to get infected on the 18th of december, Not a funny christmas but no worse than a bad flu and the third time I only knew it because someone at work got it and we all got tested. With a husband who is seriously ill - He got a stroke last fall, and suffers from both diabetes and a slow growing braintumor, it is really essential that neither of us get ill or if we get it - that we have the best possible protection.

Yes we do have those anti-vax people here too, but only a few - mostly infected by the "facebook" disease. For most it just makes plenty of sense just to get the shot. It probably also helps that most companies have had a yearly "vacine day" for the last +20 years where all who wanted it could get vaccinated against that years flu version. Good business for the company (fewer sick days) and easy (and voluntary for the employees) for both the company and employees because people wont have to take time off to get the shot

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

I've just booked time for the yearly flu and Covid shots. Really no big deal and easy and free to do. Just show up, get in line, present your arm, get the shots, sit and enjoy a cup of tea for 30 minutes (in case of bad reactions) and then head back to work. Yes I have had Covid 3 times, The first before the vaccines and the 2 next one year appart, The first one was the really bad one - the second time I managed to get infected on the 18th of december, Not a funny christmas but no worse than a bad flu and the third time I only knew it because someone at work got it and we all got tested. With a husband who is seriously ill - He got a stroke last fall, and suffers from both diabetes and a slow growing braintumor, it is really essential that neither of us get ill or if we get it - that we have the best possible protection.

Yes we do have those anti-vax people here too, but only a few - mostly infected by the "facebook" disease. For most it just makes plenty of sense just to get the shot. It probably also helps that most companies have had a yearly "vacine day" for the last +20 years where all who wanted it could get vaccinated against that years flu version. Good business for the company (fewer sick days) and easy (and voluntary for the employees) for both the company and employees because people wont have to take time off to get the shot

Thanks for reminding me to get an appointment for my shots. Here we need to get an appointment if you're using certain pharmacies.

 

[MT15]

Both my husband and I have received our flu shots and the new RSV vaccine. I am also in the middle of the Shingles vaccine. We didn’t need an appointment and all were free (to seniors). Once the new Covid comes out I’m sure we will get that as well. We‘re very grateful to have them.

 

[MT15]

This is a great thread explaining why Covid should be looked at differently than respiratory illnesses. It’s a blood vessel disease, and more.