All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (12 Viewers)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[MT15]

 

[Dragon]

They are correct and I fear that we will only see the real dangers of this infection in the long run.

 

[Dragon]

Makes lots of sense. I sometimes think that the isolation forced by Covid broke something in peoples mind. We are a social creature and the isolation and fear created by Covid harmed our mental health severly

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Optimus Prime]

Makes lots of sense. I sometimes think that the isolation forced by Covid broke something in peoples mind. We are a social creature and the isolation and fear created by Covid harmed our mental health severly

I think it was the pandemic, George Floyd and BLM protests and reckoning that followed, Qanon and 2020 election and social media hate and misinformation about all of it, and the isolation meant there was no escape from any of it

 

[DaveXA]

I think it was the pandemic, George Floyd and BLM protests and reckoning that followed, Qanon and 2020 election and social media hate and misinformation about all of it, and the isolation meant there was no escape from any of it

2020 truly was a perfect storm of numerous events that shaped post-pandemic thinking. Craziest year ever.

 

[LA - L.A.]

2020 truly was a perfect storm of numerous events that shaped post-pandemic thinking. Craziest year ever.

2024 is going to be entirely your fault.

 

[Optimus Prime]

NEW YORK (AP) — As Americans fend off a late summer COVID-19 spike and prepare for a fresh vaccine rollout, Republicans are raising familiar fears that government-issued lockdowns and mask mandates are next.

It’s been a favorite topic among some of the GOP’s top presidential contenders. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told reporters that people are “lurching toward” COVID-19 restrictions and “there needs to be pushback.” South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott posted online that the “radical Left” seeks to bring back school closures and mandates.

And former President Donald Trump urged congressional Republicans to stop the Biden administration from bringing back COVID-19 “mandates, lockdowns or restrictions of any kind.”

“The radical Democrats are trying hard to restart COVID hysteria,” Trump told supporters in Rapid City, South Dakota, during a recent campaign stop. “I wonder why. Is there an election coming up by any chance?”

While some individual schools and colleges have implemented temporary mask requirements, there is no sign that anyone in federal or state leadership is considering widespread COVID-19 restrictions, requirements or mask mandates. The administrations of several Democratic governors denied that any such moves are even under discussion. The overriding sentiment is to leave the decisions to individuals.

“No COVID-19 public health restrictions or mask requirements are being considered by the Murphy administration,” said Christi Peace, spokesperson for New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy.

“There are no impending mass lockdowns or mask mandates for New Mexico,” said Jodi McGinnis Porter, spokeswoman for the New Mexico Department of Public Health.


It was largely the same message from Democratic governors’ offices in several other states that responded to an inquiry about whether any COVID-19 mandates were under consideration. That included Connecticut, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan and Oregon.……

There's no sign of widespread COVID-19 mandates in the US. Republicans are warning of them anyway

Republicans are responding to a late summer spike in COVID-19 by raising familiar fears that government-issued lockdowns and mask mandates are on the horizon.

apnews.com

 

[SaintForLife]

Why was the CIA trying to pay off their analysts to change their analysis from lab leak to zoonotic if it wasn't a lab leak?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Why was the CIA trying to pay off their analysts to change their analysis from lab leak to zoonotic if it wasn't a lab leak?

Nearly every single intelligence and health agency, independently: Zoonotic in origin

The vast majority of scientists: Zoonotic in origin

A few US intelligence agencies: Can't be 100% certain either way

One whistleblower and one Trump appointee: ZOMG! CONSPIRACY! LAB LEAK!

S4L: Those shouty guys seem to be on to something...

 

[SaintForLife]

Nearly every single intelligence and health agency, independently: Zoonotic in origin

The vast majority of scientists: Zoonotic in origin

A few US intelligence agencies: Can't be 100% certain either way

One whistleblower and one Trump appointee: ZOMG! CONSPIRACY! LAB LEAK!

S4L: Those shouty guys seem to be on to something...

Weak deflection attempt. Do you still think it wasn't a lab leak even after all the information that's come out recently?

Wasn't one of Trump’s impeachments based off of a single whistleblower? And now the left tries to discredit every whistleblower they don't like.

 

[MT15]

Weak deflection attempt.

His post was nothing like a deflection. He addressed the issue directly.

Wasn't one of Trump’s impeachments based off of a single whistleblower?

No.

 

[SaintForLife]

His post was nothing like a deflection. He addressed the issue directly.


No.

It was most definitely a deflection attempt. He made no mention of the CIA trying to pay some of their analysts to change their analysis from lab leak to zoonotic.

The Ukraine Trump impeachment wasn't based off of a single whistleblower? Wrong again

At the heart of this story was a complaint from an unknown whistleblower.

In August 2019, an anonymous intelligence official wrote a letter expressing concern over President Trump's 25 July phone conversation with Ukraine's president.

The official spoke of an "urgent concern" that Mr Trump had used his office to "solicit interference from a foreign country" in the 2020 election.

Trump impeachment: The short, medium and long story - BBC News

The president has been cleared at his impeachment trial. Here's the story in 100, 300 and 800 words.

www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[coldseat]

It was most definitely a deflection attempt. He made no mention of the CIA trying to pay some of their analysts to change their analysis from lab leak to zoonotic.

The Ukraine Trump impeachment wasn't based off of a single whistleblower? Wrong again

At the heart of this story was a complaint from an unknown whistleblower.

In August 2019, an anonymous intelligence official wrote a letter expressing concern over President Trump's 25 July phone conversation with Ukraine's president.

The official spoke of an "urgent concern" that Mr Trump had used his office to "solicit interference from a foreign country" in the 2020 election.

Trump impeachment: The short, medium and long story - BBC News

The president has been cleared at his impeachment trial. Here's the story in 100, 300 and 800 words.

www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org

The impeachment focused on the call out of Trumps call with Zelensky where he was nakedly asking that he investigate Biden and the hold that he put on the weapons appropriations (that went against the law). It wasn't just a whistleblower account, there was actual evidence to back it up. Something sorely missing from the Hunter Biden obsession.

Here's a reminder if you needed it.

Read Trump’s phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House.

www.cnn.com

 

[bird]

The impeachment focused on the call out of Trumps call with Zelensky where he was nakedly asking that he investigate Biden and the hold that he put on the weapons appropriations (that went against the law). It wasn't just a whistleblower account, there was actual evidence to back it up. Something sorely missing from the Hunter Biden obsession.

Here's a reminder if you needed it.

Read Trump’s phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House.

www.cnn.com

Quit it. You’ll only confuse him.

 

[SaintForLife]

The impeachment focused on the call out of Trumps call with Zelensky where he was nakedly asking that he investigate Biden and the hold that he put on the weapons appropriations (that went against the law). It wasn't just a whistleblower account, there was actual evidence to back it up. Something sorely missing from the Hunter Biden obsession.

Here's a reminder if you needed it.

Read Trump’s phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House.

www.cnn.com

It's started with the single whistleblower correct? Then they investigated further.

 

[SaintForLife]

The impeachment focused on the call out of Trumps call with Zelensky where he was nakedly asking that he investigate Biden and the hold that he put on the weapons appropriations (that went against the law). It wasn't just a whistleblower account, there was actual evidence to back it up. Something sorely missing from the Hunter Biden obsession.

Here's a reminder if you needed it.

Read Trump’s phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House.

www.cnn.com

What's ironic is Trump was talking about the exact thing that Joe and Hunter are under fire for now. How do get a job that I have no experience for & pays me millions like Hunter had with Burisma?

 

[coldseat]

What's ironic is Trump was talking about the exact thing that Joe and Hunter are under fire for now. How do get a job that I have no experience for & pays me millions like Hunter had with Burisma?

Why is that funny? The right wing has been pushing this nonexistent scandal before and after that call. They think the can win the election because of it, lol.