All things political. Coronavirus Edition. (15 Viewers)

[Maxp]

I fear we are really going to be in a bad place due to the obvious cuts to the federal agencies that deal with infectious disease, but also the negative effect the Affordable Care act has had on non urban hospitals. Our front line defenses are ineffectual and our ability to treat the populous is probably at an all time low. Factor in the cost of healthcare and I can see our system crashing. What do you think about the politics of this virus?

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

You're asking another guy if his age in his profile is real? This isn't Grinder.

I just found it weird that someone similar to my age would be so childlike. Either way, keep on keeping on.

 

[FullMonte]

To make a long story short: Wisconsin’s Democratic governor Tony Evers tried to move the election to June, but Republican lawmakers fought for it to be held today. The decision ultimately went to the Wisconsin Supreme Court where judges overturned the governor’s executive order. Yesterday, the United States Supreme Court decided that Wisconsin wouldn’t be able to extend absentee voting. The election would go on as planned.

You missed a critical part....the Supreme Court voted remotely (to protect themselves) that people in Wisconsin couldn't vote remotely.

 

[Heathen]

Dude, how old are you??? That cannot be your real age in your profile.

Oh it most certainly can.

Having someone grown come in and post drive by cartoons and drivel thinking that it is in any way intelligent is kind of like watching one of those 'hoarding' shows in a way.

Half the time you watch it just to realize how sane you are in comparison.

 

[Beach Friends]

Oh it most certainly can.

Having someone grown come in and post drive by cartoons and drivel thinking that it is in any way intelligent is kind of like watching one of those 'hoarding' shows in a way.

Half the time you watch it just to realize how sane you are in comparison.

You Bernie bros sure are salty today.

 

[Heathen]

You Bernie bros sure are salty today.

Ah yes..Harassing poor innocent folks looking for true fruitful conversation.

 

[Richard]

A lot of conversation on the last couple of pages only discussing posters. Definitely not what Andrus had in mind for this board.

 

[Beach Friends]

Ah yes..Harassing poor innocent folks looking for true fruitful conversation.

Maybe we can discuss Biden's ideas on handling the virus crisis. Any idea what they are?

 

[Nebaghead]

How can Trump take no accountability for the handling of this crisis. All he does is point fingers at everyone. He is pitiful and a poor example of what leadership means.

 

[Saintamaniac]

How can Trump take no accountability for the handling of this crisis. All he does is point fingers at everyone. He is pitiful and a poor example of what leadership means.

Actually, I believe that trump is a glaring example of what leadership means. You take everything trump has done with the pandemic and put it up on a board for all to see and then you instruct them to do the exact opposite of everything he's done. Trump is a glaring example of what not to do in any situation.

 

[Heathen]

Maybe we can discuss Biden's ideas on handling the virus crisis. Any idea what they are?

You're mistaking me for someone who supports Biden

 

[SystemShock]

Maybe we can discuss Biden's ideas on handling the virus crisis. Any idea what they are?

Here you go.

COVID Timeline - Joe Biden for President: Official Campaign Website

In the midst of a growing public health crisis, the country is looking for leadership, effectiveness, and trusted experience — and that’s Vice President Joe Biden. Joe Biden has been laser-focused on the threat that COVID-19 has posed to our nation and the decisive public health and economic...

joebiden.com

However, he's not currently in an actual position of leadership from which he can dictate the course of action, so moot at this time.

 

[Beach Friends]

Here you go.

COVID Timeline - Joe Biden for President: Official Campaign Website

In the midst of a growing public health crisis, the country is looking for leadership, effectiveness, and trusted experience — and that’s Vice President Joe Biden. Joe Biden has been laser-focused on the threat that COVID-19 has posed to our nation and the decisive public health and economic...

joebiden.com

However, he's not currently in a position of leadership, so moot at this time.

True, but we can still use his brain power.

 

[wardorican]

Maybe we can discuss Biden's ideas on handling the virus crisis. Any idea what they are?

COVID Timeline - Joe Biden for President: Official Campaign Website

In the midst of a growing public health crisis, the country is looking for leadership, effectiveness, and trusted experience — and that’s Vice President Joe Biden. Joe Biden has been laser-focused on the threat that COVID-19 has posed to our nation and the decisive public health and economic...

joebiden.com

It outlines a lot. Also a lot of political talk that doesn't mean much, but that's seemingly the norm. But, quite a bit of actions.

 

[wardorican]

Joe Biden discusses Trump phone call, surprising consequences of COVID-19 outbreak

"He asked my views. I gave him four things that I thought were of urgent need that he should be doing," revealed Biden during a one-on-one interview.

6abc.com

PHILADELPHIA -- President Donald Trump said he had a "really wonderful, warm conversation" with Joe Biden on Monday about the coronavirus outbreak.

"He gave me his point of view, and I fully understood that, and we just had a very friendly conversation," Trump said at his daily press briefing.


Biden, who is quarantining in Delaware, spoke with 6abc on Tuesday about that phone call and the coronavirus plaguing the nation.

"He asked my views. I gave him four things that I thought were of urgent need that he should be doing, that they should be doing, the national government. And we both agreed we wouldn't go into detail but we did acknowledge that we talked to one another and that if I had more suggestions, or if he wanted to call me, he could," Biden told 6abc's Jim Gardner during a one-on-one-interview.

"The president has said, and we've heard these words a number of times, he has said we inherited an obsolete broken system that was not meant for anything like this. What's your reaction to those words?" Gardner asked Biden.

Biden says warnings were made.

"When we left office, we warned them that a pandemic was something as a greatest concern. We had set up within the president's office, a pandemic office. All the way back in January the 17th I wrote an article saying it's coming. We should be doing something about it. But here's the point. The president didn't cause this virus, but he reacted incredibly too slowly to it and didn't acknowledge it's a federal responsibility," said Biden.

 

[Lapaz]

How ironic that you find nuance in what a Democrat is saying. I'm not defending what Trump has said. I criticized him for downplaying the virus initially. But let's not act like many in the media weren't also downplaying Covid at that point including Pelosi.

Nancy Pelosi's comments, while bad advice, occurred in late January, when people could be more excused for being misinformed. Was she getting the inside briefings that Trump was getting? Did she get the memo that Navarro wrote about the impending crisis? I think Pelosi had some information, but nothing like the wealth of information available to Trump, yet 2 days after this quote you posted from Pelosi, Trump said everything was under control, and would go away shortly. Even while Pelosi made the above comments, she was cautioning to be careful, while Trump was claiming it was a hoax.

I read the NPR link from that site you posted, and they were being very responsible. They weren't minimizing Covid, but they were acknowledging that the flu is also very dangerous.

There is an element of being obtuse and slow learners on the right, while on the left being much quicker on the uptake. It doesn't mean that the left hasn't made some mistakes, but the majority of the mistakes come from the right. The tone from the left has been much less dismissive, while until the last couple of weeks, the right has been calling this an overreaction, and even today is still considering opening up too soon.

Joe Biden discusses Trump phone call, surprising consequences of COVID-19 outbreak

"He asked my views. I gave him four things that I thought were of urgent need that he should be doing," revealed Biden during a one-on-one interview.

6abc.com

I think if Biden were president, the Federal government would've been much more involved, and some people wouldn't like that, but it would've been the most effective approach to handling the crisis. The production act would've been activated at least a month sooner. He probably would've issued a national emergency. He probably would be working much closer with the WHO for tests and data. He probably would rarely appear on TV or at least only briefly to allow the experts to handle the briefings. He wouldn't be insisting on adulation to get support. I think I can say those things with confidence. I think he would've handled other things differently as well, but just the above would've made things much better.

 

[SaintForLife]

Joe Biden discusses Trump phone call, surprising consequences of COVID-19 outbreak

"He asked my views. I gave him four things that I thought were of urgent need that he should be doing," revealed Biden during a one-on-one interview.

6abc.com

So naked links are okay now? This could have been an interesting subject to discuss if you would have included your opinion. What changed from this post from you:

Joe Biden Accused of Sexual Assualt

The video is NSFW due to language and the graphic description of Joe Biden's alleged conduct.

madaboutpolitics.com

 

[FullMonte]

Here's the question I would love for someone to ask at one of these briefings:

"Mr President. It was recently reported that your adviser Peter Navarro wrote a briefing that the Coronavirus outbreak could be devestating, and that back in November, your intelligence agencies wrote a report that the outbreak in China had the potential to become a global pandemic. You have stated that you were not aware of either of these reports until recently. What are you doing about the fact that your own administration is somehow preventing you from receiving important information that could be crucial for your ability to lead the country?"

 

[dtc]

Nancy Pelosi's comments, while bad advice, occurred in late January, when people could be more excused for being misinformed. Was she getting the inside briefings that Trump was getting? Did she get the memo that Navarro wrote about the impending crisis? I think Pelosi had some information, but nothing like the wealth of information available to Trump, yet 2 days after this quote you posted from Pelosi, Trump said everything was under control, and would go away shortly. Even while Pelosi made the above comments, she was cautioning to be careful, while Trump was claiming it was a hoax.

I read the NPR link from that site you posted, and they were being very responsible. They weren't minimizing Covid, but they were acknowledging that the flu is also very dangerous.

There is an element of being obtuse and slow learners on the right, while on the left being much quicker on the uptake. It doesn't mean that the left hasn't made some mistakes, but the majority of the mistakes come from the right. The tone from the left has been much less dismissive, while until the last couple of weeks, the right has been calling this an overreaction, and even today is still considering opening up too soon.

I think if Biden were president, the Federal government would've been much more involved, and some people wouldn't like that, but it would've been the most effective approach to handling the crisis. The production act would've been activated at least a month sooner. He probably would've issued a national emergency. He probably would be working much closer with the WHO for tests and data. He probably would rarely appear on TV or at least only briefly to allow the experts to handle the briefings. He wouldn't be insisting on adulation to get support. I think I can say those things with confidence. I think he would've handled other things differently as well, but just the above would've made things much better.

IF Biden were president the pandemic would not have gotten to the state it is and the Republicans would NEVER have passed the enormous stimulus bills. They'd have sooner eaten molten lava than allow a Democrat to make that move.