All Things LGBTQ+ (1 Viewer)

[Farb]

Didn't really see a place for this so I thought I would start a thread about all things LGBTQ since this is a pretty hot topic in our culture right now

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/sup...y-that-refuses-to-work-with-lgbt-couples.html

• The Supreme Court on Thursday delivered a unanimous defeat to LGBT couples in a high-profile case over whether Philadelphia could refuse to contract with a Roman Catholic adoption agency that says its religious beliefs prevent it from working with same-sex foster parents.
• Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in an opinion for a majority of the court that Philadelphia violated the First Amendment by refusing to contract with Catholic Social Services once it learned that the organization would not certify same-sex couples for adoption.

I will admit, I was hopeful for this decision by the SCOTUS but I was surprised by the unanimous decision.

While I don't think there is anything wrong, per se, with same sex couples adopting and raising children (I actually think it is a good thing as it not an abortion) but I also did not want to see the state force a religious institution to bend to a societal norm.

 

[MT15]

Sorry, Farb, I knew it was a joke. I’m just not able to joke about this. It’s not a slide into authoritarianism, it’s a sprint. And you guys think socialism is the big boogeyman. It would be ironic if it wasn’t so tragic and wasn’t going to end America as we know it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

From baking wedding cakes to designing wedding websites
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The US supreme court has agreed to hear a new clash involving religion and the rights of LGBTQ+ people in the case of a Colorado web designer who says her religious beliefs prevent her from offering wedding website designs to gay couples.

The high court said on Tuesday it would hear the case of Lorie Smith. The Denver-area designer offers graphic and website design and wants to expand her business to wedding website services, but she says her Christian beliefs would lead her to decline any request from a same-sex couple to design a wedding website.

She also wants to post a statement on her website about her beliefs. Doing those things, however, would run afoul of Colorado’s anti-discrimination law. Smith had argued the law violated her free speech and religious rights……

US supreme court to hear case of web designer who refuses to serve same-sex couples

Court will address free-speech question over designer’s stance, which violates Colorado anti-discrimination law

www.theguardian.com

 

[Taurus]

wow
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A new amendment to Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bill would require schools to inform parents of their children's sexual orientation within six weeks of learning the student isn't straight,NBC affiliate WFLA reported on Monday.

The amendment was filed Friday by the bill's co-sponsor, state Rep. Joe Harding (R).

The bill, which has gained national attention and pushback, bars educators in Florida from talking about sexual orientation or gender identity in primary schools. Parents would be able to take legal action against school districts they believe have violated the measure.

The original version of the legislation required schools to inform families of their child's LGBTQ+ status but gave an option for exemption for the outing in cases where educators feared it could lead to abuse, neglect or abandonment.

The amendment offers no such exception........

MSN

www.msn.com

If SCOTUS hasn't completely drunk the Kool-Ade, they'll strike this on the basis of it being clearly discriminatory.
Straight kids aren't subject to it.
I'm hoping to see it changed so teachers and schools are required to report the orientation of every child, along with the evidence used to reach that conclusion.
Let's take this Talibama crap and run with it. Shove it right down their throats.

 

[SamAndreas]

If SCOTUS hasn't completely drunk the Kool-Ade, they'll strike this on the basis of it being clearly discriminatory.
Straight kids aren't subject to it.
I'm hoping to see it changed so teachers and schools are required to report the orientation of every child, along with the evidence used to reach that conclusion.
Let's take this Talibama crap and run with it. Shove it right down their throats.

I like it. That takes the inner essence of one of the Heritage Foundation's favorite Lincoln "quotes" and shoves it right back at them.

“The best way ‌to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.” -- a paraphrase of Abraham Lincoln, not a direct quote.

 

[MT15]

Chilling thread: this is the end game, a war on secularism. It’s a thread, but worth the read.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

Sorry for all the tweets, but this is important.

 

[Farb]

Sorry, Farb, I knew it was a joke. I’m just not able to joke about this. It’s not a slide into authoritarianism, it’s a sprint. And you guys think socialism is the big boogeyman. It would be ironic if it wasn’t so tragic and wasn’t going to end America as we know it.

I guess with your media 'sources' telling you the world is going to end due to climate change, republicans, russia, covid, Trump, Putin, closing post offices, de-regulating the internet, the end of democracy, white supremacy, fascists dictators, evangelicals et al, I understand why you think that. I can promise you it is not as 'world ending' as they want you to believe in order to vote for them.

 

[Farb]

If SCOTUS hasn't completely drunk the Kool-Ade, they'll strike this on the basis of it being clearly discriminatory.
Straight kids aren't subject to it.
I'm hoping to see it changed so teachers and schools are required to report the orientation of every child, along with the evidence used to reach that conclusion.
Let's take this Talibama crap and run with it. Shove it right down their throats.

I thought we were all about private businesses being able to refuse service to anyone? How is this different in your opinion from GoFundMe deciding to not honor their services based on political affiliation or an employer forcing a vaccine mandate?

 

[V Chip]

I thought we were all about private businesses being able to refuse service to anyone?

Anyone who isn't a legally protected class, yep. Government services have a higher bar to set as well.

How is this different in your opinion from GoFundMe deciding to not honor their services based on political affiliation or an employer forcing a vaccine mandate?

GoFundMe announced it won't pay just due to political affiliation? When the hell was that?

And a vaccine mandate being enforced by a private employer doesn't affect any protected classes. I thought you conservatives were all about letting private enterprise do as it pleased?

 

[MT15]

I guess with your media 'sources' telling you the world is going to end due to climate change, republicans, russia, covid, Trump, Putin, closing post offices, de-regulating the internet, the end of democracy, white supremacy, fascists dictators, evangelicals et al, I understand why you think that. I can promise you it is not as 'world ending' as they want you to believe in order to vote for them.

I don’t necessarily believe what I read and my sources are fact checked and have ethics departments to monitor them.

I don’t have to “believe”. I can see it. You yourself are advocating to impose your religious beliefs on everyone in this country. I see Carlson actively working toward a Christian Nationalist state, and he’s by far not the only one. Flynn and Bannon, Pompeo, Burr, are but a few more. This goes against everything this country was founded on.

did you see the traits of a Christian Nationalist that I posted?

 

[insidejob]

did you see the traits of a Christian Nationalist that I posted?

Even if he did, he'd just claim it's more liberal hysteria, not truth. Because words don't have meaning when you live like he does.

 

[CoolBrees]

@Farb -

So Canadian truckers and anti vaxx mouth breathers are protected classes? No?

Then totally irrelevant.

You can refuse service for not wearing shoes. But you cannot refuse service for being gay.

 

[nolaspe]

Abbott is utter garbage...

Texas Gov. Abbott: Agencies must investigate gender-affirming care for trans kids as ‘child abuse’

AUSTIN — Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has ordered state agencies to investigate reports of transgender kids receiving gender-affirming care as “child abuse,” but it’s...

www.dallasnews.com

 

[insidejob]

Abbott is utter garbage...

Texas Gov. Abbott: Agencies must investigate gender-affirming care for trans kids as ‘child abuse’

AUSTIN — Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has ordered state agencies to investigate reports of transgender kids receiving gender-affirming care as “child abuse,” but it’s...

www.dallasnews.com

I read about that earlier. It's infuriating that he and his ilk can get away with openly discriminating against any and everyone who doesn't agree with their knuckle dragging agenda.

 

[SystemShock]

Abbott is utter garbage...

Texas Gov. Abbott: Agencies must investigate gender-affirming care for trans kids as ‘child abuse’

AUSTIN — Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has ordered state agencies to investigate reports of transgender kids receiving gender-affirming care as “child abuse,” but it’s...

www.dallasnews.com

Neither the article nor the directive defines what a kid is, but if we just use "younger than legally an adult" as the demarcation point, there are a lot of decisions we don't allow kids to make... altering their bodies with hormones seems a decision that needs to be made later in life, no?

 

[MT15]

Neither the article nor the directive defines what a kid is, but if we just use "younger than legally an adult" as the demarcation point, there are a lot of decisions we don't allow kids to make... altering their bodies with hormones seems a decision that needs to be made later in life, no?

Should their parents make these decisions, or the state?

I see this as religious overreach. The parents and the kids and their doctors can make the decision. There’s no need for the state to intervene.