All Things LGBTQ+ (2 Viewers)

[Farb]

Didn't really see a place for this so I thought I would start a thread about all things LGBTQ since this is a pretty hot topic in our culture right now

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/sup...y-that-refuses-to-work-with-lgbt-couples.html

• The Supreme Court on Thursday delivered a unanimous defeat to LGBT couples in a high-profile case over whether Philadelphia could refuse to contract with a Roman Catholic adoption agency that says its religious beliefs prevent it from working with same-sex foster parents.
• Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in an opinion for a majority of the court that Philadelphia violated the First Amendment by refusing to contract with Catholic Social Services once it learned that the organization would not certify same-sex couples for adoption.

I will admit, I was hopeful for this decision by the SCOTUS but I was surprised by the unanimous decision.

While I don't think there is anything wrong, per se, with same sex couples adopting and raising children (I actually think it is a good thing as it not an abortion) but I also did not want to see the state force a religious institution to bend to a societal norm.

 

[Paul]

What is the biological sex of people with these chromosomal abnormalities?

The presence or absence of Y determines the sex.

 

[Paul]

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One more thing: Would you date a transwoman if her penis was gone and she had a near perfect surgically created copulation canal?

How would I know?
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I guess a very inexperienced man could not tell. You have a point. In this instance I would assume the transwoman is not telling.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

The presence or absence of Y determines the sex.

And how do you differentiate between biological sex and gender?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I guess a very inexperienced man could not tell. You have a point. In this instance I would assume the transwoman is not telling.

What is your obsession with who posters on this board would or would not date? What does it have to do with anything?

 

[samiam5211]

What is your obsession with who posters on this board would or would not date? What does it have to do with anything?

Yea, i should have asked him if the trans person was white or a filthy immigrant.

 

[Paul]

And how do you differentiate between biological sex and gender?

Gender is a relatively new invention. It was first used in the 1940s. However, tomboy women and feminine men have been around since the beginning of time.

In the overwhelming majority of cases biological sex and gender coincide. When the OB doctor looks at the penis and says "boy" he is correct 99.7% of the time. A minority of people have gender dysphoria.

 

[Paul]

What is your obsession with who posters on this board would or would not date? What does it have to do with anything?

It is the LGBTQIA thread CD,
Carry on!

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Gender is a relatively new invention. It was first used in the 1940s. However, tomboy women and feminine men have been around since the beginning of time.

In the overwhelming majority of cases biological sex and gender coincide. When the OB doctor looks at the penis and says "boy" he is correct 99.7% of the time. A minority of people have gender dysphoria.

That's doesn't answer the question at all.

 

[insidejob]

I agree with you a separate category is needed. Otherwise, this would be unfair to the vast majority of biological women. I am glad you are not an orthodox.

Would you date a trans woman?

What is your obsession with asking everyone if they would date a trans woman? No, I probably wouldn't. I'd gladly be friends with one. I wouldn't date any of my gay friends either. One of my closest friends in high school was gay and we were so close that it had me question my sexuality for while. When it came down to it though, no matter how much I loved him as a friend, I couldn't ever love him as anything but a really good friend.

And the main reason I'd never date a trans woman is that there would never be the possibility of having children. I've never seen any really attractive trans women either. I could probably see myself sleeping with a trans woman if she was attractive enough, but not having a relationship because she doesn't have the tools necessary for reproduction.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

It is the LGBTQIA thread CD,
Carry on!

It's possible to be gay and aromantic, thus preferring not to date. In fact, aromantic and asexual are the A in the acronym.

Now, what do the dating preferences of the posters on this board have to do with whether or not trans men are men or trans women are women?

 

[gjones]

No, do you believe that trans is the same as pedophilia?

No. Are you familiar with the Wi spa story?

 

[Farb]

Yea, i don't get people who seem to think that their kids are more likely to get raped because trans people get to use the bathroom of their chosen gender.

It is a ridiculous argument, and IMO just an attempt to rationalize their transphobia or homophobia.

Yeah, it just happened, so I am not sure how ridiculous it is.

The police were not involved because the School Board wanted and got the trans bathroom policy they wanted. Now the police are involved, the superintendent is probably going to be sued by the state and several board members have stepped down.
Remember this too, this was first reported by an actual investigative journalist. The journalist was also funded by the Daily Wire, a conservative news source. That probably explains why it was not reported and has barely blinked on the MSM.

And yes, I think men go in mens restrooms and women get their restrooms, pretty simple really.

 

[Farb]

There are straight men that date trans women and they would not self-identify as gay, nor would their trans partner identify them as gay.

Does the trans have a penis? If so, I got some bad news for everyone involved

 

[insidejob]

And yes, I think men go in mens restrooms and women get their restrooms, pretty simple really.

I peed in the women's restroom at the Lee's Hamburger's on Codifer last night.

ETA: No little girls got raped either.

 

[Farb]

And how do you differentiate between biological sex and gender?

women have vaginas and men have penises. Cavemen were able to do this without college classes in trans dance theory so I find it funny we are now moving backwards.

 

[gjones]

I peed in the women's restroom at the Lee's Hamburger's on Codifer last night.

ETA: No little girls got raped either.

Were there little girls in the bathroom with you?

 

[coldseat]

Does the trans have a penis? If so, I got some bad news for everyone involved

You'd have to ask them. How would I know? Lol

Would depend on if they had the surgery or not.

But I think we've landed on something that conservatives and gay men have in common, an obsession with penises.

 

[Paul]

It's possible to be gay and aromantic, thus preferring not to date. In fact, aromantic and asexual are the A in the acronym.

Now, what do the dating preferences of the posters on this board have to do with whether or not trans men are men or trans women are women?

CD

I wanted to gage the limit of commitment to equality. Those men that are for true equality would have no issues in dating a trans woman. IN some circles you may be labeled a transphobe if you do not date transwomen. It is an important questionb. I am just using the Socratic method to have a discussion.