All Things LGBTQ+ (3 Viewers)

[Farb]

Didn't really see a place for this so I thought I would start a thread about all things LGBTQ since this is a pretty hot topic in our culture right now

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/sup...y-that-refuses-to-work-with-lgbt-couples.html

• The Supreme Court on Thursday delivered a unanimous defeat to LGBT couples in a high-profile case over whether Philadelphia could refuse to contract with a Roman Catholic adoption agency that says its religious beliefs prevent it from working with same-sex foster parents.
• Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in an opinion for a majority of the court that Philadelphia violated the First Amendment by refusing to contract with Catholic Social Services once it learned that the organization would not certify same-sex couples for adoption.

I will admit, I was hopeful for this decision by the SCOTUS but I was surprised by the unanimous decision.

While I don't think there is anything wrong, per se, with same sex couples adopting and raising children (I actually think it is a good thing as it not an abortion) but I also did not want to see the state force a religious institution to bend to a societal norm.

 

[Optimus Prime]

A hair salon in Michigan is under fire after reportedly saying it would refuse service to transgender people.

"If a human identifies as anything other than a man/woman, please seek services at a local pet groomer," the Studio 8 Hair Lab in Traverse City, Michigan, said in a now-deleted Facebook post, The Kansas City Star reported. "You are not welcome at this salon. Period."

Screenshots of the post showed it saying that "This is America; free speech. This small business has the right to refuse services. We are not bound to any oaths as realtors are regarding discrimination."

The post comes shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court made a decision in the 303 Creative LLC vs. Elenis case, siding with Lorie Smith, a Colorado web designer who refused service to a same-sex couple. In a 6-3 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that Smith, the owner of 303 Creative web designs, had the right to do so.

"The First Amendment prohibits Colorado from forcing a website designer to create expressive designs speaking messages with which the designer disagrees," the Supreme Court said in its decision.

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor dissented from the opinion and wrote, "Today, the Court, for the first time in its history, grants a business open to the public a constitutional right to refuse to serve members of a protected class." Sotomayor was joined by Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson in her dissent............

"I have no issues with LGB. It's the TQ+ that I'm not going to support," Geiger's comment said. "This stance was taken to insure that clients have the best experience and I am admitting that since I am not willing to play the pronoun game or cater to requests outside of what I perceive as normal this probably isn't the best option for that type of client.

"This is a free country and I am not a slave to any narrative. Conservatives need to acclimate these woke individuals to their new reality. Conservatives have HAD ENOUGH of their ideologies being projected onto us," the comment said...............

Michigan hair salon refuses to serve transgender people

"I have no issues with LGB. It's the TQ+ that I'm not going to support," the owner of the hair salon reportedly said in a Facebook comment.

www.newsweek.com

 

[coldseat]

A hair salon in Michigan is under fire after reportedly saying it would refuse service to transgender people.

"If a human identifies as anything other than a man/woman, please seek services at a local pet groomer," the Studio 8 Hair Lab in Traverse City, Michigan, said in a now-deleted Facebook post, The Kansas City Star reported. "You are not welcome at this salon. Period."

Screenshots of the post showed it saying that "This is America; free speech. This small business has the right to refuse services. We are not bound to any oaths as realtors are regarding discrimination."

The post comes shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court made a decision in the 303 Creative LLC vs. Elenis case, siding with Lorie Smith, a Colorado web designer who refused service to a same-sex couple. In a 6-3 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that Smith, the owner of 303 Creative web designs, had the right to do so.

"The First Amendment prohibits Colorado from forcing a website designer to create expressive designs speaking messages with which the designer disagrees," the Supreme Court said in its decision.

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor dissented from the opinion and wrote, "Today, the Court, for the first time in its history, grants a business open to the public a constitutional right to refuse to serve members of a protected class." Sotomayor was joined by Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson in her dissent............

"I have no issues with LGB. It's the TQ+ that I'm not going to support," Geiger's comment said. "This stance was taken to insure that clients have the best experience and I am admitting that since I am not willing to play the pronoun game or cater to requests outside of what I perceive as normal this probably isn't the best option for that type of client.

"This is a free country and I am not a slave to any narrative. Conservatives need to acclimate these woke individuals to their new reality. Conservatives have HAD ENOUGH of their ideologies being projected onto us," the comment said...............

Michigan hair salon refuses to serve transgender people

"I have no issues with LGB. It's the TQ+ that I'm not going to support," the owner of the hair salon reportedly said in a Facebook comment.

www.newsweek.com

My face: Jacks complete lack of surprise.

Thanks SC for making this country more bigoted. That is the legacy of this SC and the conservative movement in this country.

 

[Optimus Prime]

And we’ll sadly see many more of these stories in the near future

And do haircuts/ styling count as speech? Or art?

 

[Optimus Prime]

CHICAGO (AP) — On an early morning in June, Flower Nichols and her mother set off on an expedition to Chicago from their home in Indianapolis.

The family was determined to make it feel like an adventure in the city, though that wasn’t the primary purpose of the trip.

The following afternoon, Flower and Jennilyn Nichols would see a doctor at the University of Chicago to learn whether they could keep Flower, 11, on puberty blockers.

They began to search for medical providers outside of Indiana after April 5, when Republican Gov. Eric Holcomb signed a law banning transgender minors from accessing puberty blockers and other hormone therapies, even after the approval of parents and the advice of doctors.

At least 20 states have enacted laws restricting or banning gender-affirming care for trans minors, though several are embroiled in legal challenges. For more than a decade prior, such treatments were available to children and teens across the U.S. and have been endorsed by major medical associations.

Opponents of gender-affirming care say there’s no solid proof of purported benefits, cite widely discredited research and say children shouldn’t make life-altering decisions they might regret. Advocates and families impacted by the recent laws say such care is vital for trans kids.

On June 16, a federal judge blocked parts of Indiana’s law from going into effect on July 1. But many patients still scrambled to continue receiving treatment.

Jennilyn Nichols wanted their trip to Chicago to be defined by happy memories rather than a response to a law she called intrusive. They would explore the Museum of Science and Industry and, on the way home, stop at a beloved candy store.

Preserving a sense of normalcy and acceptance, she decided — well, that’s just what families do.

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Families in Indiana, Mississippi and other states are navigating new laws that imply or sometimes directly accuse them of child abuse for supporting their kids in getting health care. Some trans children and teens say the recent bans on gender-affirming care in Republican-led states send the message that they are unwelcome and cannot be themselves in their home states.

For parents, guiding their children through the usual difficulties of growing up can be challenging enough. But now they are dealing with the added pressure of finding out-of-state medical care they say allows their children to thrive.

In the Nichols family alone, support took many forms as they traveled to Chicago: a grandmother who pitched in to babysit Flower’s 7-year-old brother, Parker, while their father Kris worked; a community of other parents of trans kids who donated money to make the trip more comfortable.

“What transgender expansive young people need is what all young people need: They need love and support, and they need unconditional respect,” said Robert Marx, an assistant professor of child and adolescent development at San José State University. Marx studies support systems for LGBTQ+ and trans people aged 13 to 25. “They need to feel included and part of a family.”……..

Families with transgender kids are increasingly forced to travel out of state for the care they need

Families around the US are scrambling to navigate new laws that prohibit their transgender children and teenagers from accessing gender-affirming care.

apnews.com

 

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Hungary’s largest bookseller has started wrapping books that feature LGBTQ+ characters in plastic to prevent customers from opening them in stores after it was taken over by a private foundation with close ties to Viktor Orbán.

Libri, which is also the country’s largest publisher, said in an email that the packaging was a request from the Hungarian consumer protection authority to follow the controversial “child protection” law that came into force in 2021.

The bookstore chain is the first in Hungary to use the transparent packaging, though a few rural booksellers have started to follow the practice.

Two years ago, the government passed a widely criticised law banning LGBTQ+ people from featuring in educational material or on TV shows for children. The legislation prohibits the promotion and display of homosexuality and gender reassignment, though the definition of “promotion” is vague.

The law has also come under fire for conflating homosexuality with paedophilia. According to the interpretation of Háttér Society, a Hungarian organisation focused on LGBTQ+ rights, a parent could break the law solely by buying a child a young adult novel that features an LGBTQ+ character.

In 2021, another bookstore, Líra, had to pay a £600 fine for selling a children’s book by the American author Lawrence Schimel depicting a day in the life of a child with same-sex parents. The bookseller failed to indicate that this was a “family that is different from a normal family”, according to Hungarian officials.……

Hungarian bookseller wraps LGBTQ+ books in plastic to stop people reading them

Libri bows to pressure to comply with ‘child protection’ law after takeover by foundation linked to PM

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

Another totally not surprising outcome from this radical SCOTUS

 

[SaintForLife]

 

[LA - L.A.]

You just might be a fascist if you agree with what the fascist right in Russia is doing.

Russia’s Duma votes for law to ban gender reassignment surgery, in crackdown on LGBTQ rights | CNN

The Russian State Duma, or lower house of parliament, has voted in favor of a new law banning nearly all medical help for transgender people including gender reassignment surgery, in a raft of new anti-LGBTQ laws in Russia.

www.cnn.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

A teacher in Wisconsin has been fired from her job after she criticized her public school district’s decision to ban the song Rainbowland, which exalts the virtues of inclusivity, from a children’s concert at her campus.

The members of the board governing public schools in the solidly Republican community of Waukesha voted unanimously to dismiss Melissa Tempel from her job on Wednesday, saying the teacher’s defense of the Miley Cyrus and Dolly Parton duet violated district policy because she did not speak to her supervisors first.

Tempel and her advocates, meanwhile, have maintained that she was exercising her constitutionally protected right to free speech but was punished because the song in question references rainbows, a key symbol of the LGBTQ+ community, according to reports from local television station WISN as well as other media outlets.…..

Wisconsin teacher fired for criticizing school district ban of song Rainbowland

Melissa Tempel dismissed after she tweeted frustration at ban of Dolly Parton and Miley Cyrus song exalting virtues of inclusivity

www.theguardian.com

 

[coldseat]

No surprise there, that tends to happen when a minority group is so viciously attacked by a major political party and the majority of the population doesn't have any personal relationship or real knowledge of said minority group. The populations amygdala is activated and that's how you start to get violence, attacks and huge miscarriages of justice. Basically the right wing plan has worked and the American population has again ostracized and demonized trans people, after a very short period of acceptance. Sad to backtrack like that, but this is America so not a surprise.

“The attacks on trans people have been very acute and vicious,” Alejandra Caraballo, a trans activist and clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, said. “It’s basically been the only thing that the far-right talks about so it’s not surprising that, in light of all of these concentrated attacks against trans people, that support has started to dip.”

 

[SaintForLife]

No surprise there, that tends to happen when a minority group is so viciously attacked by a major political party and the majority of the population doesn't have any personal relationship or real knowledge of said minority group. The populations amygdala is activated and that's how you start to get violence, attacks and huge miscarriages of justice. Basically the right wing plan has worked and the American population has again ostracized and demonized trans people, after a very short period of acceptance. Sad to backtrack like that, but this is America so not a surprise.

No. It's as simple as most of the country realizing that trans who were born men shouldn't be competing against women due to the unfair physical advantage.

I'm surprised that you would reference that fraud Alejandra Caraballo.

 

[brandon]

Another totally not surprising outcome from this radical SCOTUS

1. A judge performing a marriage is absolutely not "creative expression" as defined by 303 Creative.
2. This will make it to the Supreme Court.
3. They will clarify that this is, in fact, "creative expression" anyway.
4. De facto Obergefell overturned in red states.
5. Some new court case gets to the Supreme Court.
6. Obergefell overturned nationally.

 

[coldseat]

No. It's as simple as most of the country realizing that trans who were born men shouldn't be competing against women due to the unfair physical advantage.

Yes, because that's such a huge problem we have to have a country wide ban against it.

I'm surprised that you would reference that fraud Alejandra Caraballo.

I'm not watching your Libs of TikTok vid and I don't hold Nancy Mace's character in any such regard that I would care what she had to say. I simply quoted from the article that you posted. Which shows that you didn't even read the very article you posted. Not surprised at all. Here are more quotes from the article you posted.

Caballero added that majority opposition to trans people competing in sports and people transitioning genders could be because the majority of Americans do not personally know a trans person.

Only 39% of Americans say they know someone who is trans, compared with 31% in 2021, according to the new poll. Those who know a trans person are more likely to say trans athletes should be able to play on a team of their gender identity versus those who don’t know a trans person — 30% compared with 23%.

“It’s natural for people to have questions when they’re learning something new,” Caballero said.

Caraballo and Caballero noted that the new data shows that future generations of policymakers are more likely to be in favor of trans people.

On the issue of trans inclusion in sports, young adults are also more supportive than other subgroups and are one of the only subgroups whose support has grown since 2021, with 41% of them in favor now versus 35% in 2021. And 60% of 18- to 29-year-olds say changing one’s gender is morally acceptable, compared with less than a third of Americans over the age of 50.

 

[MT15]

I’m surprised SFL is still paying attention to LibsofTikTok, actually wait, no, I’m not surprised one little bit.

 

[MT15]

This particular school received about 6.5M in taxpayer funds through the voucher system:

 

[MT15]

Who could have predicted this? It‘s actually not about the children at all.

Actually, everyone could have predicted this. It’s all a lie:

 

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[superchuck500]

Just gonna leave this here - it says it all.