2024 GOP Presidential Race (4 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Many of Trump's endorsed candidates did not do well on Nov. 8th.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis DID do well.
He won convincingly.
Yet in this OP's opinion, Donald Trump is an egomaniac who is seemingly incapable of putting "Party over Self"
Trump has ZERO chance of being elected our next president.
In my opinion, if Trump would just shut up and go away (fat chance of that)...but "if" Trump did that, Gov. Ron DeSantis would have a CHANCE to be a formidable candidate for President in 2024.
Here is an interesting article on this topic...

Donald Trump warns Ron DeSantis against 2024 presidential bid as Republican rising star wins big

Donald Trump has warned Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis against running for president in 2024, saying doing so would harm the Republican Party.

www.scotsman.com

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What do any of you think re. Trump vs DeSantis?

 

[Snarky Sack]

You keep moving the goal posts. Makes it hard to have a rational conversation. You asked me to name one, I did, then you had to make excuses. But hey, if it makes you sleep better at night I guess.

You got me wrong, Dave. Obviously a one word answer wasn't going to bebthevend of it.

Point is, that there is no perfect ideal and moral candidate. So we have to pick the one that will best implement the policies we think best for the country. Yes there is a point at which a candidate would be so immoral that they would be disqualified for president. But Biden comes much closer to that than trump.

 

[Snarky Sack]

This is a lot of what has turned me off from the GOP, I mean Trump started the revulsion, but this shirt right here has sealed the deal. Who does he think are his neighbors and his constituents? He’s basically saying that he doesn’t think over half the country are worthwhile people. Why would anyone except the cult vote for this?

Oh yeah! Imagine how angry you would be if someone thought that Trump supporters were not worthwhile people, being somewhere between 25% and 40% of our neighbors.

 

[MT15]

You got me wrong, Dave. Obviously a one word answer wasn't going to bebthevend of it.

Point is, that there is no perfect ideal and moral candidate. So we have to pick the one that will best implement the policies we think best for the country. Yes there is a point at which a candidate would be so immoral that they would be disqualified for president. But Biden comes much closer to that than trump.

Ridiculous whataboutism. Just admit it - Trump could shoot someone in the middle of the street and he wouldn’t lose your support. We all can tell from your posts that you feel that way.

 

[MT15]

Oh yeah! Imagine how angry you would be if someone thought that Trump supporters were not worthwhile people, being somewhere between 25% and 40% of our neighbors.

I don’t think anyone, at least not anyone in D leadership or here in this forum, has called Trump supporters unpatriotic, groomers, communists, socialists, election cheaters or satan worshipers. That’s just Tuesday for Trump and his supporters.

We do bemoan their lack of critical thinking skills and their ability to let their feelings rule their voting. Their gullibility to a conman who cares nothing about them or this country.

 

[SaintForLife]

I don’t think anyone, at least not anyone in D leadership or here in this forum, has called Trump supporters unpatriotic, groomers, communists, socialists, election cheaters or satan worshipers. That’s just Tuesday for Trump and his supporters.

We do bemoan their lack of critical thinking skills and their ability to let their feelings rule their voting. Their gullibility to a conman who cares nothing about them or this country.

Are you really going to claim that the left hasn't used many pejoratives to describe Trump supporters?

 

[SaintForLife]

Ridiculous whataboutism. Just admit it - Trump could shoot someone in the middle of the street and he wouldn’t lose your support. We all can tell from your posts that you feel that way.

Do you still support Biden after this?

 

[MT15]

Are you really going to claim that the left hasn't used many pejoratives to describe Trump supporters?

Straw man.

 

[CoolBrees]

Did Eva Longoria sue the President, claiming that he raped her in a dressing room? And was he found to have sexually assaulted her and ordered to pay her $5 million?

No?

Then not the same as the guy that wants to bang his daughter and sold the US to the Saudis.

Say it with me: Man, woman, camera, tv.

Or maybe we should change the trajectory of a hurricane with a sharpie because we are too stupid to know geography.

 

[MT15]

Do you still support Biden after this?

Yes, after all he’s a doddering fool, right?

Seriously, it was at the very least awkward. But that isn’t enough to make me label him an abuser. I thought your people bemoan cancel culture? You attack everyone who opposes Trump, like it’s your religion. I mean, you do you, but that’s just a very weird lane to take in this day and age.

I’m certainly pragmatic enough to realize that I have to vote for whoever opposes Trump, who is an order of magnitude worse than Biden in every possible way. There is no way I won’t be out there voting against Trumpism and everything it stands for.

 

[Snarky Sack]

I don’t think anyone, at least not anyone in D leadership or here in this forum, has called Trump supporters unpatriotic, groomers, communists, socialists, election cheaters or satan worshipers. That’s just Tuesday for Trump and his supporters.

We do bemoan their lack of critical thinking skills and their ability to let their feelings rule their voting. Their gullibility to a conman who cares nothing about them or this country.

What about calling Trump supporters members of a cult?

 

[MT15]

What about calling Trump supporters members of a cult?

Well, that is an opinion shared by some clinicians, and it was arrived at after a lot of evidence. I stand by that opinion for a great deal of the people who still support him.

 

[SaintForLife]

Did Eva Longoria sue the President, claiming that he raped her in a dressing room? And was he found to have sexually assaulted her and ordered to pay her $5 million?

No?

Then not the same as the guy that wants to bang his daughter and sold the US to the Saudis.

Say it with me: Man, woman, camera, tv.

Or maybe we should change the trajectory of a hurricane with a sharpie because we are too stupid to know geography.

We saw Biden sexually assault Eva Longoria, but keep going with your excuses for your team if it makes you sleep better at night.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Do you still support Biden after this?

There are a lot of men who do this. It's a pretty disgusting thing to do. They touch females but restrain themselves just enough to maintain plausible deniability if someone calls them on it.

I see it all the time and I keep thinking that sooner or later they're going to cross the line and wind up either in jail or with their rear ends thoroughly kicked by a husband father or brother.

It is worse for Biden, because he is constantly doing it in public on camera. His advisors have tried hard to stop him, but it seems his hormones get the better of him. His disgusting comments about when I was this age and you were (a child's age) should be enough for any decent woman to never pull his lever, no pun intended.

Lefty's keep showing faux outrage at something that Trump said long ago about grabbing ladies. Something he said - not something he did. I'm surprised an army of women haven't come forward to say oh yes he grabbed me.

Meanwhile, Biden can't keep his hands off of females from 5 to 50 and these Democrats are fine with it. I wonder if you would do that to a trans woman, and if not if Democrats would be upset at him for not affirming their gender.

 

[CoolBrees]

So the answer is "no" she didn't accuse him of assault.

Thanks for answering.

We saw Biden sexually assault Eva Longoria, but keep going with your excuses for your team if it makes you sleep better at night.

 

[MT15]

There are a lot of men who do this. It's a pretty disgusting thing to do. They touch females but restrain themselves just enough to maintain plausible deniability if someone calls them on it.

I see it all the time and I keep thinking that sooner or later they're going to cross the line and wind up either in jail or with their rear ends thoroughly kicked by a husband father or brother.

It is worse for Biden, because he is constantly doing it in public on camera. His advisors have tried hard to stop him, but it seems his hormones get the better of him. His disgusting comments about when I was this age and you were (a child's age) should be enough for any decent woman to never pull his lever, no pun intended.

Lefty's keep showing faux outrage at something that Trump said long ago about grabbing ladies. Something he said - not something he did. I'm surprised an army of women haven't come forward to say oh yes he grabbed me.

Meanwhile, Biden can't keep his hands off of females from 5 to 50 and these Democrats are fine with it. I wonder if you would do that to a trans woman, and if not if Democrats would be upset at him for not affirming their gender.

The cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy is just stunning.

 

[SaintForLife]

So the answer is "no" she didn't accuse him of assault.

Thanks for answering.

She didn't accuse him, but anyone who viewed that video saw the sexual assault. Are you familiar with the definition of sexual assault?

When someone shows you guys that someone on the left did something that you all are complaining about someone on the right doing your only defense is to claim it's not 100% the same. Yall should find some new excuses.

 

[CoolBrees]

Why are you so angry?

I simply said it isn't the same thing as forcing a women into a dressing room and digitally raping her as Donald Trump has been found guilty of doing and has more than likely done over 20 times per the women who have accused him.

Home many women have accused Biden?

Oh and one last thing - can you guys make up your mind if he is an evil mastermind or a drooling old person?

 

[MT15]

She didn't accuse him, but anyone who viewed that video saw the sexual assault. Are you familiar with the definition of sexual assault?

When someone shows you guys that someone on the left did something that you all are complaining about someone on the right doing your only defense is to claim it's not 100% the same. Yall should find some new excuses.

Here is what I think you are doing here: You want to support Trump so very badly, but you cannot bring yourself to directly support him. So you spend all your energy attacking everyone who criticizes Trump. You desperately grasp at straws trying to make Biden looks as bad as Trump. To the point where you believe every conspiracy theory and unverified smear that has been put out there by those noted truth-tellers Bannon, Giuliani and Stone (just to name the worst of the bunch).

And when a truly awkward moment comes along - and yes, this was awkward and weird, but I can tell you this does happen and sometimes without intent - you just jump at it and attempt to equate it with some truly heinous things that Trump is known to have said and done.