2024 GOP Presidential Race (2 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Many of Trump's endorsed candidates did not do well on Nov. 8th.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis DID do well.
He won convincingly.
Yet in this OP's opinion, Donald Trump is an egomaniac who is seemingly incapable of putting "Party over Self"
Trump has ZERO chance of being elected our next president.
In my opinion, if Trump would just shut up and go away (fat chance of that)...but "if" Trump did that, Gov. Ron DeSantis would have a CHANCE to be a formidable candidate for President in 2024.
Here is an interesting article on this topic...

Donald Trump warns Ron DeSantis against 2024 presidential bid as Republican rising star wins big

Donald Trump has warned Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis against running for president in 2024, saying doing so would harm the Republican Party.

www.scotsman.com

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What do any of you think re. Trump vs DeSantis?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Is there a legal and/or financial reason candidates “suspend” their campaign and not quit, or withdraw, or stop, or drop out?

It’s always suspend

Has anyone ever unsuspended their campaign?

 

[Booker]

Is there a legal and/or financial reason candidates “suspend” their campaign and not quit, or withdraw, or stop, or drop out?

It’s always suspend

Has anyone ever unsuspended their campaign?

Yes, generally speaking I think it’s so they can continue fundraising to pay off any debts, including money loaned by the candidate to the campaign.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

@GrandAdmiral it may very well hurt Trump and hopefully help Nikki Haley if the race becomes just Trump, Haley and DeSantis.

I think she absolutely gets Scott’s 1%. They are a lot alike.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Yes, generally speaking I think it’s so they can continue fundraising to pay off any debts, including money loaned by the candidate to the campaign.

This is it exactly. By suspending it they can still fund raise and spend money as if they are campaigning.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

I think she absolutely gets Scott’s 1%. They are a lot alike.

Very clever but you don't seem to get what I'm saying.
Nikki Haley and DeSantis are already neck and neck for #2 behind Trump.
When there is a debate we can focus on those two more now that yet another candidate has dropped out.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Very clever but you don't seem to get what I'm saying.
Nikki Haley and DeSantis are already neck and neck for #2 behind Trump.
When there is a debate we can focus on those two more now that yet another candidate has dropped out.

I was being genuine, not trying to be clever. She would get Christie’s too if he dropped out. Ultimately there’s the crazies and the sane. Nicky, Scott, and Cristie are sane and will get each others voters. Vivek (sp?) and DeSantis are nut bags and will get each others voters.

I just don’t think the base has enough sane people for her to beat DeSantis or Trump. Of the whole crowd she’s the only one I’d even consider voting for.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina leaves the race for the GOP presidential nomination with some disappointment but his reputation intact. He’ll go back to a Senate where his peers like and admire him, and he’ll probably be reelected as many times as he wants in his home state.

An Economist poll conducted this month found 52 percent of self-identified Republican primary voters felt favorably about Scott, and just 12 percent felt unfavorable. Republicans like him plenty; they just don’t want him as their next president.

The headline on a Post column I wrote in March was “If the GOP ever tires of anger wars, Tim Scott could have a shot in 2024.” The GOP never did tire. Scott was cheerful and optimistic in a party that, so far, seems entranced by Donald Trump’s unofficial campaign slogan: “I am your retribution.”

Scott’s signature issue was “opportunity zones,” tax incentives designed to bring new investment to economically distressed areas and create jobs where they are urgently needed. That topic barely made a ripple in the campaign; it just didn’t interest the typical Republican primary voter.

In this primary, it doesn’t seem as though much can spur any reconsideration of initial preferences among Republicans. Trump made a vague allusion to executing the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, and the GOP electorate barely blinked.
It appears the GOP electorate just doesn’t want sunny optimism, and roughly half the party can at least tolerate angry pledges of national retribution.

Scott ran a campaign that was tailor-made for Iowa Republicans before the Trump era.

He speaks like a preacher giving a sermon on Sunday, and his campaign slogan was literally “faith in America.” (During the GOP debate last week, my Post colleague Kathleen Parker wondered how Scott could sell himself to a diverse country if he’s only willing to address Christians.)


In another age, Scott might have been catnip among Iowa Christian conservatives. This is the state, after all, where evangelical candidate Pat Robertson finished with 25 percent of the caucus vote in 1988, second only to Bob Dole. But running as the most explicitly Christian candidate in the current field didn’t do Scott much good at all.

When he “suspended” his campaign, Scott was at 6.7 percent in Iowa in the RealClearPolitics average. Even Iowa’s Christian conservatives prefer Trump, who’s at 47.3 percent, about 30 points ahead of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.


Mock Scott’s campaign for never catching fire if you must, but nobody else in the Republican field poses even a mild threat to Trump anywhere in the country…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/13/tim-scott-republican-presidential-campaign/

 

[Optimus Prime]

Yes, generally speaking I think it’s so they can continue fundraising to pay off any debts, including money loaned by the candidate to the campaign.

That makes sense from the (former) candidate’s position

But why would people donate to a suspended campaign?

Is the fundraising basically a “help pay my bills” go fund me at that point?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Following the worse fake girlfriend introduction since Manti Te’o this seems appropriate.

Read speculation that someone had proof of this and that’s why he was dropping out

 

[DaveXA]

I was being genuine, not trying to be clever. She would get Christie’s too if he dropped out. Ultimately there’s the crazies and the sane. Nicky, Scott, and Cristie are sane and will get each others voters. Vivek (sp?) and DeSantis are nut bags and will get each others voters.

I just don’t think the base has enough sane people for her to beat DeSantis or Trump. Of the whole crowd she’s the only one I’d even consider voting for.

Exactly how I feel.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

That makes sense from the (former) candidate’s position

But why would people donate to a suspended campaign?

Is the fundraising basically a “help pay my bills” go fund me at that point?

Probably because they don't know its suspended. And another is big donors that can't give him the money directly, so it has to go through campaign..

 

[Booker]

That makes sense from the (former) candidate’s position

But why would people donate to a suspended campaign?

Is the fundraising basically a “help pay my bills” go fund me at that point?

For some it's a matter of just transitioning to their campaign for whatever office they run for next, otherwise you can solicit other candidates for money to pay off your debt in exchange for an endorsement.

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

they don't even want to stand by what they say even when they say it on national tv . smh..

 

[Postingless]

This is sad. I think that she doesn't understand that free speech includes anonymous speech too. It seems that the times are coming when will be allowed to post on social media only if our biometrics is verified.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

She's right about the problem, wrong about the solution.

 

[bdb13]

She's right about the problem, wrong about the solution.

Yes I'm not exactly sure what the solution would be.. but it's not for me to have to verify myself to the government or something to be able to post my opinions on MadAboutPolitics.com as it seems like it would have to really apply to everything that is social media and not just your Facebooks and Twitters of the world (if something like that should even be applied to them, which it probably shouldn't).

But she's definitely correct in identifying the problem in general.

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Donald Trump poses the biggest danger to the world in 2024

What his victory in America’s election would mean

www.economist.com

Donald Trump poses the biggest danger to the world in 2024​

What his victory in America’s election would mean​

image: andrea ucini
Nov 16th 2023


A shadow looms over the world. In this week’s edition we publish The World Ahead 2024, our 38th annual predictive guide to the coming year, and in all that time no single person has ever eclipsed our analysis as much as Donald Trump eclipses 2024. That a Trump victory next November is a coin-toss probability is beginning to sink in.

Mr Trump dominates the Republican primary. Several polls have him ahead of President Joe Biden in swing states. In one, for the New York Times, 59% of voters trusted him on the economy, compared with just 37% for Mr Biden. In the primaries, at least, civil lawsuits and criminal prosecutions have only strengthened Mr Trump. For decades Democrats have relied on support among black and Hispanic voters, but a meaningful number are abandoning the party. In the next 12 months a stumble by either candidate could determine the race—and thus upend the world.