2024 GOP Presidential Race (3 Viewers)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Many of Trump's endorsed candidates did not do well on Nov. 8th.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis DID do well.
He won convincingly.
Yet in this OP's opinion, Donald Trump is an egomaniac who is seemingly incapable of putting "Party over Self"
Trump has ZERO chance of being elected our next president.
In my opinion, if Trump would just shut up and go away (fat chance of that)...but "if" Trump did that, Gov. Ron DeSantis would have a CHANCE to be a formidable candidate for President in 2024.
Here is an interesting article on this topic...

Donald Trump warns Ron DeSantis against 2024 presidential bid as Republican rising star wins big

Donald Trump has warned Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis against running for president in 2024, saying doing so would harm the Republican Party.

www.scotsman.com

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What do any of you think re. Trump vs DeSantis?

 

[MT15]

I think the reason so many Republicans endorse Trump is because homie just says the most wild stuff and doesn't give a crap about it. Everyone has to walk on egg shells today as a public figure and he just lets it rip. He's the guy who isn't afraid to tell some delusional woman who thinks she's a 10 that she needs to lose 150lbs and says it without even blinking an eye.


He also has that nutty factor, you're not voting for him because you think his policies are great. You pull a lever down for him because he's so unpredictable that world leaders don't wanna find out. If he tells you, "Hey, don't do that or I'm gonna bomb you." Chances are great that if you do that, he's gonna bomb you.

Who was the delusional woman in this example?

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Donald Trump looks terrifyingly electable

If America’s presidential election were held tomorrow, he would probably win

www.economist.com

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Donald Trump looks terrifyingly electable​

If America’s presidential election were held tomorrow, he would probably win​

image: getty images
Nov 7th 2023 | WASHINGTON, DC

What mighty armour Donald Trump wears. It is undented by a post-presidential impeachment trial, four ongoing criminal trials for 91 alleged felonies and all of the attacks of the Republican challengers for the party’s nomination in 2024. Mr Trump’s hold over his party looks ironclad. His challengers appear quixotic as the first ballots of the primary, to be cast in Iowa in January, draw nearer. Shy to criticise the popular former president, his rivals have repeatedly argued that Mr Trump would be unable to defeat President Joe Biden. Democrats, who refused to even entertain the idea of having the octogenarian president stand aside, seemed to share this analysis. Both have gravely underestimated Mr Trump. He has a considerable chance of being elected president—fair and square—in one year’s time on the first Tuesday in November 2024. If the election were to be held tomorrow, he would even be considered the favourite.

 

[Taurus]

Donald Trump looks terrifyingly electable

If America’s presidential election were held tomorrow, he would probably win

www.economist.com

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Donald Trump looks terrifyingly electable​

If America’s presidential election were held tomorrow, he would probably win​

image: getty images
Nov 7th 2023 | WASHINGTON, DC

What mighty armour Donald Trump wears. It is undented by a post-presidential impeachment trial, four ongoing criminal trials for 91 alleged felonies and all of the attacks of the Republican challengers for the party’s nomination in 2024. Mr Trump’s hold over his party looks ironclad. His challengers appear quixotic as the first ballots of the primary, to be cast in Iowa in January, draw nearer. Shy to criticise the popular former president, his rivals have repeatedly argued that Mr Trump would be unable to defeat President Joe Biden. Democrats, who refused to even entertain the idea of having the octogenarian president stand aside, seemed to share this analysis. Both have gravely underestimated Mr Trump. He has a considerable chance of being elected president—fair and square—in one year’s time on the first Tuesday in November 2024. If the election were to be held tomorrow, he would even be considered the favourite.

The day after the GOP gets curbstomped (in off-year races, no less!)
Polls are increasingly inaccurate, bordering on insane.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The day after the GOP gets curbstomped (in off-year races, no less!)
Polls are increasingly inaccurate, bordering on insane.

As panic inducing as they can be I’m close to adopting this view

 

[Bolo]

And I think if voters are voting for trump because of those listed reasons are idiots! I wouldn't select someone that possess those characteristics to take out my garbage. Why anyone would choose him to a position that require high intellect, the ability to comprehend complex situations and exceptional communication skills is dumbfounding.

Its the same reason why world leaders didn't wanna test Reagan, sometimes, you need the bold, nutty, unpredictable person in office during a time of world crisis. Nobody wanted to find out while he was in office. The next president is gonna inherit a global shirtshow, and many believe a 3rd will start in Taiwan with a Chinese invasion.

 

[Maxp]

Its the same reason why world leaders didn't wanna test Reagan, sometimes, you need the bold, nutty, unpredictable person in office during a time of world crisis. Nobody wanted to find out while he was in office. The next president is gonna inherit a global shirtshow, and many believe a 3rd will start in Taiwan with a Chinese invasion.

Adversarial world leaders do not think this about Trump, especially Xi. They know they can give him favorable hotel deals and patent rights and get whatever they want. Trump's nuttiness only alienates the US from our allies.

 

[MT15]

Its the same reason why world leaders didn't wanna test Reagan, sometimes, you need the bold, nutty, unpredictable person in office during a time of world crisis. Nobody wanted to find out while he was in office. The next president is gonna inherit a global shirtshow, and many believe a 3rd will start in Taiwan with a Chinese invasion.

I will never understand this mindset. No, the last thing we want is nutty. Especially someone who is as easy to manipulate as Trump. And as amoral. Recipe for world war, IMO. I would also take issue with your characterization of Reagan as projecting that type of “nutty”.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Adversarial world leaders do not think this about Trump, especially Xi. They know they can give him favorable hotel deals and patent rights and get whatever they want. Trump's nuttiness only alienates the US from our allies.

They don't even need to do that. He's so insecure it only takes a compliment and you own him.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

This is a helpful article that tells me what I need to hear, even though its title does not tell me what I want to hear...
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‘Trump won’: Third GOP debate unlikely to change dynamic of primary race

Little time remains for Republicans to find a presidential nominee other than Donald Trump, who commandingly leads in state and national polls.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

For what it’s worth

I didn’t know he wasn’t married

And don’t think it matters if he isn’t
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In June, as Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) began to get a little momentum in the presidential primary, a person working on behalf of one of Scott’s Republican opponents messaged me, asking to chat.

“Have you seen the video,” he asked over the phone, conspiratorially, “where he says he has a girlfriend?”

The video in question was from a May event organized by the news website Axios, where the interviewer asked the South Carolina senator about the possibility of becoming the first bachelor president since the 19th century.

“I probably have more time, more energy and more latitude to do the job,” he replies. And then the senator adds — quickly, as an aside: “My girlfriend wants to see me when I come home.”

The Republican operative who called me wasn’t sure said girlfriend existed. He suggested I look into it. He followed up on our conversation with an email that included a dossier of Scott’s known personal relationships. “No fingerprints,” he said.

Scott’s romantic endeavors aren’t a scandal so much as they are a mystery. At 57, he’s never been married and rarely talks about girlfriends past or present.

Late last year, as Scott was ramping up his run for president, I asked Jennifer DeCasper, his close friend and campaign manager, about the status of his dating life. “It’s nonexistent,” she said.

Now, Scott was suggesting otherwise. And the timing of that revelation seemed a bit convenient.
“He has staked so much on his personal story, character and faith,” said the operative, who spoke to me on the condition of anonymity because, well, that’s how people kick dirt around in this business.

“He’s running as America’s pastor, so to speak, as he courts evangelicals in Iowa, and I think a lot of folks may wonder about his lack of a family.”…….

……And although there have been unmarried candidates for president over the years — including the other Republican senator from South Carolina, Lindsey O. Graham, in 2015 — you would have to go all the way back to Grover Cleveland, in 1884, to find a bachelor who won. (Cleveland married two years later.) Before that, there was James Buchanan, who stayed single after winning in 1856. And yeah, it was a thing.

“An Old Bachelor is at most but a half man,” wrote the New York Evening Post in an editorial about Buchanan. “How can such a person make more than a half-President?”

Fast-forward to two-thousand-whatever. Despite an evolving understanding of gender — or, more likely, because of it — Republicans have made defining “masculinity” a part of their political playbook. This includes promoting some pretty old-school ideas about marriage.

“Men are meant to be husbands, to form the virtues of a husband in their souls,” Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) wrote in his book “Manhood.”

Before Trump, when Tim Miller was working in opposition research on the Republican side, finding a sex scandal used to be an effective way to topple an opponent. It may say something about our current political moment that Scott’s opponents might see an opportunity to damage him with a sexless scandal.

“What might be salient with Republican voters is not that he isn’t a perfect family man,” Miller told me, “but that he might not have the macho womanizing strength of the MAGA god-king.”

Scott’s current mission is to impress a particular subset of Republicans: the ones who will be participating in the Iowa caucuses early next year.

What do they think of the idea of an unmarried, childless commander in chief?

“I think 10 or 20 years ago, people had a kind of romance with the first family,” said Bob Vander Plaats, the head of the Family Leader, a social conservative organization in Iowa. “But I think our country is at the point where being married isn’t the top qualifier. It probably doesn’t make the Top 50.”……….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/2023/09/12/tim-scott-girlfriend-republican-presidential-candidate/

MIAMI — Sen. Tim Scott spoke longer than any other candidate on the debate stage here Wednesday night. But nothing the South Carolina Republican said garnered as much attention online as what he did once the event ended.


Shortly after the precedential candidates had finished their closing remarks, Scott walked to the edge of the stage, greeting a blonde woman in a light-gray pantsuit.

He escorted her to the podiums and held her closely as they smiled together and posed for photos, at the same time other candidates appeared with their families.


Reporters and audience members were quick to notice the pair held hands at one point. Who could she be, they wondered?

The campaign quickly confirmed she was indeed the girlfriend he had previously hinted at but never before publicly revealed, giving reporters at first just a first name — Mindy.

Soon, online sleuths tracked down her social media pages and details about her life. Mindy Noce, according to public records and online information, is a design and renovations manager for a real estate company in the Charleston, S.C., area, and a mother of three.

The campaign confirmed she was his girlfriend but declined to share more details.
The moment marked an end — or maybe a beginning — to speculation about Scott’s relationship status……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/09/tim-scott-girlfriend/

 

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MIAMI — Sen. Tim Scott spoke longer than any other candidate on the debate stage here Wednesday night. But nothing the South Carolina Republican said garnered as much attention online as what he did once the event ended.


Shortly after the precedential candidates had finished their closing remarks, Scott walked to the edge of the stage, greeting a blonde woman in a light-gray pantsuit.

He escorted her to the podiums and held her closely as they smiled together and posed for photos, at the same time other candidates appeared with their families.


Reporters and audience members were quick to notice the pair held hands at one point. Who could she be, they wondered?

The campaign quickly confirmed she was indeed the girlfriend he had previously hinted at but never before publicly revealed, giving reporters at first just a first name — Mindy.

Soon, online sleuths tracked down her social media pages and details about her life. Mindy Noce, according to public records and online information, is a design and renovations manager for a real estate company in the Charleston, S.C., area, and a mother of three.

The campaign confirmed she was his girlfriend but declined to share more details.
The moment marked an end — or maybe a beginning — to speculation about Scott’s relationship status……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/09/tim-scott-girlfriend/

Clarence and Ginny Thomas 2.0

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

that stuff is part of the problem. the lesser of two evils have gotten us where we are today .

 

[Optimus Prime]

Republican presidential candidate Tim Scott announced late Sunday that he was dropping out of the 2024 race, about two months before the start of voting in Iowa’s leadoff caucuses.

The South Carolina senator made the surprise announcement on “Sunday Night in America” with Trey Gowdy.

His campaign spokesperson Nathan Brand confirmed the news to The Associated Press.…..

South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott abruptly ends 2024 presidential bid, shocking even his campaign staff

Republican presidential candidate Tim Scott says he is ending his 2024 bid for president in a move that surprised his donors and stunned his campaign staff.

apnews.com

 

[Taurus]

Republican presidential candidate Tim Scott announced late Sunday that he was dropping out of the 2024 race, about two months before the start of voting in Iowa’s leadoff caucuses.

The South Carolina senator made the surprise announcement on “Sunday Night in America” with Trey Gowdy.

His campaign spokesperson Nathan Brand confirmed the news to The Associated Press.…..

South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott abruptly ends 2024 presidential bid, shocking even his campaign staff

Republican presidential candidate Tim Scott says he is ending his 2024 bid for president in a move that surprised his donors and stunned his campaign staff.

apnews.com

Well, bye.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Republican presidential candidate Tim Scott announced late Sunday that he was dropping out of the 2024 race, about two months before the start of voting in Iowa’s leadoff caucuses.

The South Carolina senator made the surprise announcement on “Sunday Night in America” with Trey Gowdy.

His campaign spokesperson Nathan Brand confirmed the news to The Associated Press.…..

South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott abruptly ends 2024 presidential bid, shocking even his campaign staff

Republican presidential candidate Tim Scott says he is ending his 2024 bid for president in a move that surprised his donors and stunned his campaign staff.

apnews.com

Following the worse fake girlfriend introduction since Manti Te’o this seems appropriate.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Trump might want to start worrying if this keeps up.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

@GrandAdmiral it may very well hurt Trump and hopefully help Nikki Haley if the race becomes just Trump, Haley and DeSantis.