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    SteveSBrickNJ

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    Many of Trump's endorsed candidates did not do well on Nov. 8th.
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    Gov. Ron DeSantis DID do well.
    He won convincingly.
    Yet in this OP's opinion, Donald Trump is an egomaniac who is seemingly incapable of putting "Party over Self"
    Trump has ZERO chance of being elected our next president.
    In my opinion, if Trump would just shut up and go away (fat chance of that)...but "if" Trump did that, Gov. Ron DeSantis would have a CHANCE to be a formidable candidate for President in 2024.
    Here is an interesting article on this topic...
    www.scotsman.com

    Donald Trump warns Ron DeSantis against 2024 presidential bid as Republican rising star wins big

    www.scotsman.com www.scotsman.com
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    What do any of you think re. Trump vs DeSantis?
     
    DeSantis is using FL state vehicles to campaign in TN.

    “If it hadn’t been for a fender bender on Interstate 75 near Chattanooga, Tennessee, Tuesday morning, most folks wouldn’t know that Gov. Ron DeSantis was using state government vehicles for his 2024 run for president.

    Tuesday’s four-vehicle collision on the way to a campaign fundraiser draws a curtain back on the campaign’s use of state resources. But finding out who’s paying for it is nearly impossible thanks to a new law passed by the Legislature to protect the governor’s travel records from public view.

    “The legislature has enabled him to hide his travel records so we don’t know and have no way to hold him accountable if he is using state resources in his campaign or if that is even the case,” said Ben Wilcox, research director for Integrity Florida, a nonprofit government watchdog.”

    www.orlandosentinel.com

    New law shields DeSantis’ use of state vehicles to campaign

    A DeSantis campaign car accident near Chattanooga raises questions about the use of state resources and who’s paying for his travel expenses.
    www.orlandosentinel.com www.orlandosentinel.com
     
    Important to keep in mind that while I would like some party (real conservatives) opposite the Dems to be "sane" the Republicans are really mostly why we got Trump in the first place and there are way too many that still show fealty to him.....they don't deserve to be a major political party any longer.....
     
    Ouch... lol.

    Republican political strategist Ed Rollins described Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who’s running for president in 2024, as a “very flawed candidate” in a new interview published this weekend.

    “I don’t think it’s the campaign’s fault at all; it’s his … I think he’s been a very flawed candidate. I know some of the people around him, and some of them are good, talented people,” Rollins said in an interview with Rolling Stone.

    “But every time he opens his mouth, he has a tendency to — shall we say — think out-loud, and he clearly doesn’t understand the game,” Rollins added. “When you get into these culture wars the way that he has, the vast majority of people don’t understand what they are.”
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    thehill.com

    DeSantis has been ‘very flawed candidate’: GOP strategist Ed Rollins

    Republican political strategist Ed Rollins described Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who’s running for president in 2024, as a “very flawed candidate” in a new interview published this weekend.&nbsp…
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    In late May, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) launched his presidential campaign with a slogan promising a “Great American Comeback.”
Two months later, it has become clear that to win the GOP nomination, DeSantis — or anyone not named Donald Trump — will need to register the greatest comeback in modern American primary history.


    DeSantis’s deficit in the GOP presidential primaries stands at more than 37 points in the FiveThirtyEight average, with Trump at 53.1 percent and DeSantis at 15.8 percent.

    No nominee has made up that kind of gap since the 1970s, which is when the two parties moved away from deciding their presidential nominees at conventions and toward relying on the will of primary voters.


    But there have been campaigns that have at least come close, and a look at history could provide hope for DeSantis and the others.


    The closest we’ve come to such a turnaround occurred in 2008 and in the 1970s.
In the 2008 Democratic primary, Barack Obama trailed Hillary Clinton by an average of nearly 28 points in October of the off year, before winning one of the tightest delegate races in history.


    Somewhat similarly, Sen. George McGovern (S.D.) began his 1972 Democratic primary campaign trailing Sen. Ed Muskie (Maine) by nearly 30 points in the first half of 1971, according to data from FiveThirtyEight. He trailed by nearly 20 points in the second half of that year before pulling off one of the biggest surprises ever.


    Four years later, Jimmy Carter also began his campaign as an also-ran who trailed Alabama Gov. George Wallace by nearly 20 points before pulling off the improbable. He even trailed by 25 points as of January 1976, in a Gallup poll.

    Beyond those races, we haven’t seen a turnaround that’s close to comparable.

    Some analysts have invoked the 2008 Republican primary campaign as an example of how DeSantis could wage a comeback. But John McCain’s largest deficit in that campaign was 18 points, in September of the off year. Four years later, Mitt Romney’s biggest deficit was 13 points.


    Bill Clinton’s deficit was in the midteens for much of the off year in the 1992 election.

    And Joe Biden’s largest average deficit in 2020, a brief one, was 12 points.
Which brings us to Trump himself. Like McCain, he won despite being written off almost completely. But he never trailed by even 20 points in the polling averages — in large part because nobody had that much of the vote.


    These historical data come with some caveats. One is that even looking back to the 1970s means we’re dealing with a relatively small sample size. There have been just over a dozen presidential campaigns since then.

    Unprecedented things can happen in situations such as this……

     
    This is from Henry Olsen the Washington Post’s conservative columnist
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    The revelation that Donald Trump’s political action committee spent more than $40 million on legal fees in the first half of 2023 does more than cast doubt on the former president’s ability to run a competitive primary campaign. It provides yet another reason why Republican voters should reject his candidacy if he does not drop out first.


    Running for president requires more than charisma and a few rallies. It requires time and money — and lots of it. Candidates must constantly be on the road stumping for votes. They also need support from the modern apparatus that places digital and television ads and identifies persuadable voters that can cast ballots for them.


    This is especially true when running against an incumbent who can count on a united party for support. President Biden, along with the national Democratic Party and its state counterparts, will raise billions of dollars to crush whoever rises as his opponent.

    In 2020, Biden’s campaign and affiliated outside groups spent $1.6 billion while the Democratic National Committee and state and local parties spent another $1 billion.

    A cash-strapped candidate would not stand a chance against this onslaught.

    Then there’s the time factor. Let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that prosecutors are filing bogus charges to wound Trump politically. He might be able to beat all of those raps, either at trial or on appeal. But he would still have to manage his defense in at least two, and perhaps as many as four, major criminal cases. He has prodigious energy, especially for a 77-year-old man. But even he can’t be in five places at the same time……

     

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