2024 GOP Presidential Race (formerly Can DeSantis overcome Trump?)

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Many of Trump's endorsed candidates did not do well on Nov. 8th.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis DID do well.
He won convincingly.
Yet in this OP's opinion, Donald Trump is an egomaniac who is seemingly incapable of putting "Party over Self"
Trump has ZERO chance of being elected our next president.
In my opinion, if Trump would just shut up and go away (fat chance of that)...but "if" Trump did that, Gov. Ron DeSantis would have a CHANCE to be a formidable candidate for President in 2024.
Here is an interesting article on this topic...

Donald Trump warns Ron DeSantis against 2024 presidential bid as Republican rising star wins big

Donald Trump has warned Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis against running for president in 2024, saying doing so would harm the Republican Party.

www.scotsman.com

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What do any of you think re. Trump vs DeSantis?

 

[superchuck500]

 

[MT15]

He’s not wrong. Plus the money is coming from industry lobbyists that members of the FL state government are shaking down ahead of the state’s budget process, which is illegal. DeSantis is just as corrupt as Trump, but far less stupid.

 

[zztop]

I'm going to blame him and his lame arse culture war

Florida School Restricts Amanda Gorman's Inaugural 'The Hill We Climb' Poem

“I’m gutted,” wrote the American poet in response to the restrictions

www.rollingstone.com

According to documents released by the Florida Freedom to Read Project and first reported by the Herald, the poem was removed from circulation after a parent claimed in March that it “is not educational and have indirectly [sic] hate messages.” The same parent brought challenges to four other books: The ABCs of Black History, Cuban Kids, Countries in the News Cuba and Love to Langston.

The complaint also incorrectly attributed Gorman’s poem to Oprah Winfrey.

so an update to this

Florida mom who challenged Amanda Gorman poem and other books says she only read parts of the material

The Florida mom whose complaints prompted an acclaimed poem and multiple books to be restricted also apologized for an antisemitic post she shared.

www.usatoday.com

“I’m not an expert,” she said. “I’m not a reader. I’m not a book person. I’m a mom involved in my children’s education.”

(and also, and totally unsurprising)

The advocacy group Miami Against Fascism posted photos of Salinas at rallies with member of Proud Boys and Moms for Liberty, a conservative group that has protested school curriculums that mention LGBTQ rights, critical race theory and other issues. Salinas told JTA that she was not a member of either group, saying she had merely attended rallies where their members were present

Salinas expressed regrets for sharing a Facebook post in March about “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” a notoriously antisemitic hoax purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. The original post includes a line about "socialist rule, then communism, then despotism.” Salinas said she saw the word communism, which she abides, and did not read the rest before sharing.

“I want to apologize to the Jewish community,” Salinas told JTA. “I’m not what the post says. I love the Jewish community.”

 

[MT15]

Remember when your political opponents were treated with dignity and respect? Honestly it really wasn’t that long ago when mainstream politicians wouldn’t use this type of language about their fellow Americans. Ron is a worse person than Trump, I think. With Trump we are dealing with malignant narcissism, but with Ron we are dealing with a full-on dictator wanna-be who wants to eliminate anyone who will challenge his ideas. Think Mussolini, except a religious fanatic. Maybe more dangerous than Mussolini.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

My former governor Chris Christie seemingly will add himself to the already lengthy list of GOP hopefuls...
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Chris Christie Gets a Super PAC Ahead of His Likely 2024 Bid

Allies of former Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey have formed a super PAC to support him in the nascent Republican primary, as he makes preparations for a likely campaign kickoff in the next two weeks, according to an official with the group and others briefed on the matter. Christie’s...

www.yahoo.com

 

[superchuck500]

Trump still has no idea about how the federal government works

 

[efil4]

Trump still has no idea about how the federal government works

So he will ratify the 14th amendment by EO.

got it.

what a dope and why is this dude still relevant for crying out loud. ugh.

 

[MT15]

I think he would be abolishing the 14th, right? Not ratifying it?

 

[DaveXA]

I think he would be abolishing the 14th, right? Not ratifying it?

He would have to if he wanted to get his way. So much for being a Constitutionalist.

 

[superchuck500]

Game on

 

[MT15]

So, DeSantis told an audience in Iowa that conservatives should consider picking up their families and moving to DC to show the “elites” that they cannot shove their agendas down our throats (that’s the gist of what he said, I didn’t record it). What does he think that will accomplish? The people of DC don’t really get represented in Congress, famously. It’s a really weird idea, IMO. Also, him railing about elites is especially weird.

 

[superchuck500]

This is precisely my major problem with DeSantis - and from a right-leaning source.

Ron DeSantis dangerously blurs the line between state and private action

DeSantis has repeatedly blurred the line between state and private action, undermining a distinction that is crucial to protecting individual freedom.

reason.com

 

[efil4]

This is precisely my major problem with DeSantis - and from a right-leaning source.

i have always wondered if guys like Desantis truly believe what they spew or if they are really doing it for one reason - votes.

I mean, i cannot believe that someone as educated as Desantis actually believes some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth.

Or maybe he knows its simply a means to an end- the end being authoritarian-like power?

 

[SFIDC3]

i have always wondered if guys like Desantis truly believe what they spew or if they are really doing it for one reason - votes.

I mean, i cannot believe that someone as educated as Desantis actually believes some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth.

Or maybe he knows its simply a means to an end- the end being authoritarian-like power?

Evil narcissistic, sociopaths can also be intelligent....the R's have plenty of those types, they can also be absolute idiots.....

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Optimus Prime]

i have always wondered if guys like Desantis truly believe what they spew or if they are really doing it for one reason - votes.

I mean, i cannot believe that someone as educated as Desantis actually believes some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth.

Or maybe he knows its simply a means to an end- the end being authoritarian-like power?

A question I’ve wondered about often

And the Fox/Tucker Carlson texts show very possible he doesn’t believe any of it

Just a means to an end

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Optimus Prime]