Trump Election Interference / Falsification of Business Records Criminal Trial (Trump guilty on all 34 Counts) (4 Viewers)

He’s just pre-coping for the conviction that might happen. It’s the Trump way - if Trump doesn’t win, it was obviously fixed. There’s a deep state of millions of people who are all conspiring to convict Trump of crimes he didn’t commit. Everyone is conspiring against Trump.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad and predictable and harmful to our country.

superchuck500 said:

That wasn’t a quote - that was a summary of how McCarthy characterizes the prosecution’s position. And it’s a legal question, either that’s the law or it isn’t. There’s nothing to fix.

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It was a quote of the tweet that you replied to. If the law doesn't even require for Trump to have broken the law or it doesn't even have to be a crime then we have a screwed up justice system, or unconstitutional NY laws.

I saw the judge said the jury doesn't have to be unanimous on unlawful means. I though it had to be unanimous.

The judge also refused to allow some evidence into record by the defense where he allowed similar evidence for the prosecution.

The judge also refused to let a defense expert discuss the law about campaign finance laws.

SaintForLife said:

The judge also refused to let a defense expert discuss the law about campaign finance laws.

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This isn’t true, as I understand it. They wanted their expert to opine on this case specifically, and the judge wouldn’t allow that - presumably for good cause. He was allowed to discuss general campaign finance law though.

MT15 said:

This isn’t true, as I understand it. They wanted their expert to opine on this case specifically, and the judge wouldn’t allow that - presumably for good cause. He was allowed to discuss general campaign finance law though.

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Yeah SFL really is a poster child for misinformed/uninformed MAGA cultist.

He would know basic facts if he would read "mainstream media".

This was an AP article.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Merchan did not bar Smith from testifying. Trump’s legal team chose to not call on him after the judge on Monday declined to broaden the scope of questioning the defense could pursue. The ruling echoed his pretrial ruling on the matter.

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SaintForLife said:

It was a quote of the tweet that you replied to. If the law doesn't even require for Trump to have broken the law or it doesn't even have to be a crime then we have a screwed up justice system, or unconstitutional NY laws.

I saw the judge said the jury doesn't have to be unanimous on unlawful means. I though it had to be unanimous.

The judge also refused to allow some evidence into record by the defense where he allowed similar evidence for the prosecution.

The judge also refused to let a defense expert discuss the law about campaign finance laws.

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Trump has to have committed the records falsification- that’s the crime. And that has to be unanimous. The elements of what makes it a felony instead of a misdemeanor includes intent to commit crime (even if it wasn’t committed) and “manner and means” elements don’t have to be unanimous by law.

Also, you can’t offer an expert to testify about the law - that’s a very well established rule.

All of this stuff has a basis in well established case law. If the judge made clear error, then you’ve got a good basis for appeal. Every case ever tried has parties and/or observers who believe the judge made ruling(s) that were in error or unfair. That’s what appeals are for - but someone saying it’s true doesn’t mean it is.

And from what little I read Trump’s lawyer made a statement about “prison” during his closing which will have to be cleaned up by the judge during instructions. The judge chastised him, saying after all his years as a prosecutor he clearly knew better than to say that. Presumably the jury was not in the room at the time.

Rule same in NY as federal (and probably everywhere)

This is what Blanche did:

SaintForLife said:

If the law doesn't even require for Trump to have broken the law or it doesn't even have to be a crime then we have a screwed up justice system, or unconstitutional NY laws.

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Then you must have a problem with the laws in every state of the Union, because laws are written similarly everywhere.

SaintForLife said:

It was a quote of the tweet that you replied to. If the law doesn't even require for Trump to have broken the law or it doesn't even have to be a crime then we have a screwed up justice system, or unconstitutional NY laws.

I saw the judge said the jury doesn't have to be unanimous on unlawful means. I though it had to be unanimous.

The judge also refused to allow some evidence into record by the defense where he allowed similar evidence for the prosecution.

The judge also refused to let a defense expert discuss the law about campaign finance laws.

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So now that you were wrong on all these points, every one, you will be acknowledging that, right?

Also, SFL, if you don’t believe Chuck or anyone else on here, this is a short thread by another lawyer. It’s not that long, and provides references for each point. I’ve only put the first 2 tweets here, but it expressly addresses the false things you said. Edit to add: he’s a law professor at the University of Texas.

In closing we find out that when Cohen kept some money from the Trump org for rigging that online poll, Trump was trying to stiff the vendor also. They are both crooks.

Part of closing:

Biden's only election strategy

The audacity and hypocrisy are breathtaking. Honestly.

SaintForLife said:

Biden's only election strategy

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Because it's not.

God forbid a politician would call out his opponents criminal behavior during a campaign. What has this world come to?

Also just fyi, the president has not jurisdiction in a state court.

SaintForLife said:

Biden's only election strategy

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LOL complains about a press conference outside on the street

yet

every day pre/post trial we get :