Trump Election Interference / Falsification of Business Records Criminal Trial (Trump guilty on all 34 Counts) (4 Viewers)

Wonder if the judge changes his mind about only wanting 6 alternates after today's events...

GrandAdmiral said:

Wonder if the judge changes his mind about only wanting 6 alternates after today's events...

Day 3 of Trump New York hush money trial | CNN Politics

The full 12-person jury for Donald Trump’s hush money criminal trial has been seated.

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The jury tampering is going to go nation-wide with the help republican media outlets. I expect a full blitz from Faux & Co. on the suspected identities of the seated jurors.

Edit: Right on queue...

Optimus Prime said:

I assume his legal team will do everything in their power to keep him from testifying

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well they do a horrible job stooping him from commuting felonies

Imagine how much harder it will be to empanel a jury that won’t nullify the other cases!

Citing Trump’s attacks on witnesses, the prosecution is witholding their witness list.

superchuck500 said:

Citing Trump’s attacks on witnesses, the prosecution is witholding their witness list.

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Wouldn’t the list be most of the same people who testified against Michael Cohen?

Optimus Prime said:

Wouldn’t the list be most of the same people who testified against Michael Cohen?

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They know who all the witnesses are, they just won’t know what order they are going to be called.

Too funny…

Optimus Prime said:

Wouldn’t the list be most of the same people who testified against Michael Cohen?

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MT15 said:

They know who all the witnesses are, they just won’t know what order they are going to be called.

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Which means the defense won;t be able to prepare for each specific witness the day and night before. That's not a minor thing. It's going to put Trump and his defense team at a disadvantage in the courtroom.

It's also going to prevent Trump and his media cronies from being able to smear the witnesses the night before which will weaken the effectiveness of their lies biasing people's perceptions and opinions.

Being a purely reactive position and not being able to proactively try to control the messaging is really going to eat at Trump and infuriate him.

Does anyone want to set the over/under on the number of days into the trial before Trump has a full on, very loud and out of control outburst in the courtroom?

MT15 said:

They know who all the witnesses are, they just won’t know what order they are going to be called.

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Yes, I suppose more accurately they know who the identified possible witnesses based on the disclosures but that doesn't necessarily mean each will be called. The pre-trial witness list is a much more refined version of that.

LA - L.A. said:

Which means the defense won;t be able to prepare for each specific witness the day and night before. That's not a minor thing. It's going to put Trump and his defense team at a disadvantage in the courtroom.

It's also going to prevent Trump and his media cronies from being able to smear the witnesses the night before which will weaken the effectiveness of their lies biasing people's perceptions and opinions.

Being a purely reactive position and not being able to proactively try to control the messaging is really going to eat at Trump and infuriate him.

Does anyone want to set the over/under on the number of days into the trial before Trump has a full on, very loud and out of control outburst in the courtroom?

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I suspect this will be resolved - there is appeal risk (on fair trial principles) if the prosecution simply withholds the list, though there may be precedent on that when the defendant's conduct warrants it. But my suspicion is that they're trying to use this to get the judge to tighten up the protective order and give meaningful sanction for Trump's violations.

Court is in session.

Trump: "The gag order has to come off"​

Former President Donald Trump slammed the gag order in the hush money case as he entered the courthouse Friday morning.

"The gag order has to come off," Trump told the media.

"People are allowed to speak about me, and I have a gag order, just to show you how much more unfair it is. People should be allowed to speak."

superchuck500 said:

Court is in session.

Trump: "The gag order has to come off"​

Former President Donald Trump slammed the gag order in the hush money case as he entered the courthouse Friday morning.

"The gag order has to come off," Trump told the media.

"People are allowed to speak about me, and I have a gag order, just to show you how much more unfair it is. People should be allowed to speak."

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aint no fun when the rabbit has the gun.

He sleeping again

superchuck500 said:

He sleeping again

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just the fact that is all you wrote in the post...makes it that much funnier.

LA - L.A. said:

Which means the defense won;t be able to prepare for each specific witness the day and night before. That's not a minor thing. It's going to put Trump and his defense team at a disadvantage in the courtroom.

It's also going to prevent Trump and his media cronies from being able to smear the witnesses the night before which will weaken the effectiveness of their lies biasing people's perceptions and opinions.

Being a purely reactive position and not being able to proactively try to control the messaging is really going to eat at Trump and infuriate him.

Does anyone want to set the over/under on the number of days into the trial before Trump has a full on, very loud and out of control outburst in the courtroom?

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superchuck500 said:

I suspect this will be resolved - there is appeal risk (on fair trial principles) if the prosecution simply withholds the list, though there may be precedent on that when the defendant's conduct warrants it. But my suspicion is that they're trying to use this to get the judge to tighten up the protective order and give meaningful sanction for Trump's violations.

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So apparently in NY state court criminal procedure, the sharing of the anticipated witness schedule to be called (as opposed the broad 'may be called' list required by rule) is customary but not required - so it is within the prosecution's discretion and the judge doesn't have to rule on it. So you're right that it sounds like this will be the case going forward (unless it is resolved by negotiation) and it will be a complicating factor for the defense.

Somebody just set themselves on fire in front of the court house. This is wild watching and listening it happen live on CNN.

Laura Coates was on it with her live reaction/reporting.

coldseat said:

Somebody just set themselves on fire in front of the court house. This is wild watching and listening it happen live on CNN.

Laura Coats was on it with her live reaction/reporting.

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glad trump was not near with all that hot air/gas it would have been a huge explosion.