2020 Presidential Debate - Round 1 (2 Viewers)

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    I know we shouldn’t post memes but this is pretty funny from all sides.
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    Any undecided voters at this point should be studied for scientific purposes. Just yet another embarrassment for the nation watching the man we put in charge act like that. He had nothing but contempt for the entire process and norms. He had zero interest in a debate and turned it into a bully pulpit. A truly low point in our democracy and if you think Biden was anywhere near him in the shallow end of the pool, you need to take a good long look at what you really believe in at this point. Its a cult of personality that will drive us all into the dirt.
     
    Any undecided voters at this point should be studied for scientific purposes. Just yet another embarrassment for the nation watching the man we put in charge act like that. He had nothing but contempt for the entire process and norms. He had zero interest in a debate and turned it into a bully pulpit. A truly low point in our democracy and if you think Biden was anywhere near him in the shallow end of the pool, you need to take a good long look at what you really believe in at this point. Its a cult of personality that will drive us all into the dirt.

    CNN interviewed this "undecided" voter from Ohio who said he's decided to vote for Trump because he thinks it was unfair for Joe Biden to blame Trump for the COVID deaths in the country.

    WTH?
     
    CNN interviewed this "undecided" voter from Ohio who said he's decided to vote for Trump because he thinks it was unfair for Joe Biden to blame Trump for the COVID deaths in the country.

    WTH?
    Of all the things. I saw that too.
     

    It’s not the fact that people don’t like him. We’ve seen plenty of evidence, even here, that his supporters just don’t care. It’s the fact that he's a unfettered moron. All Joe Biden has to do is just yield his time to Trump and just point and say, “Really? This is what you morons voted for?”
     
    It’s not the fact that people don’t like him. We’ve seen plenty of evidence, even here, that his supporters just don’t care. It’s the fact that he's a unfettered moron. All Joe Biden has to do is just yield his time to Trump and just point and say, “Really? This is what you morons voted for?”

    Shades of 1988 and Dukakis SNL skit
     
    I didn't ask about polls or social media... Or to answer my question with a question...

    I simply asked - How many undecided votes do you know personally? Ask them how many they know...

    I know this is anecdotal... It's still pertinent to the discussion (especially if enough people answer honestly)

    The number is close to zero... you can rationalize this how you want... but I think everyone has their minds made up at this point, and if you are "undecided" as of tonight's' "debate" - you may have been in a coma for the last 4-6 years.

    Here's the problem with that. Lets' say I know 100 people closely enough to know their current position on the election. Now, let's say I know 1, and only 1, person who is undecided. You are correct, that number is close to zero. But, taking that sample size, and applying it to the 330 million people in the US means that there are around 3.3 million undecided voters. If I know 3 people who are undecided, that could still be seen as close to zero, but that extrapolates to 9.9 million undecided voters.
     
    One thing I would have loved to see. Biden stuttering a bit when he says the name of a country, and Trump jumping on it, and repeating the name of the country the way Biden said it because of his ignorance of the world.

    Biden: I want to make a trade deal with Ni-Ni-Nigeria.
    Trump: I've been speaking to the government of Nininigeria for months about a deal.
     
    Looks like the next two debates are going to be a waste of time as well.

    Trump's goal is to just wreck the thing and it's damn near impossible to stop someone from doing that.
     

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