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This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



 
Drawing inspiration from a far-right shooter in New Zealand, the gunman who killed 10 Black shoppers at a Buffalo supermarket in the spring used racist, dehumanizing language in his writings, singling out Jews as the real problem to be “dealt with in time.”


Nevertheless, at a congressional hearing this month on the threat of violent white supremacy, two Republican lawmakers cherry-picked a word in the Buffalo killer’s screed — “socialist” — to cast him as a radical leftist.

They did not note that the shooter was referring to National Socialism, the ideology of the German Nazi Party, as Democrats and witnesses on the panel pointedly clarified.
“Any sober look” at the Buffalo shooter’s hate-filled manifesto, Oren Segal of the Anti-Defamation League told the lawmakers, “would recognize that attack as clearly a white-supremacist attack.”


The exchange shows the tricky role of language in the politically charged struggle over how to talk about domestic terrorism.

Republican leaders portray the far left and far right as equally dangerous, an assertion contradicted by White House assessments that “the most persistent and lethal threats” to the country come from the violent right.


But “far right” also is an imperfect term, analysts say, and does not capture the complex ideologies, including some that overlap with the anarchist left, that have fueled recent attacks.


That fuzziness leaves room for bad-faith arguments and misinformation, miring an urgent threat in partisan point-scoring. Terrorism researchers said they had hoped that rising political violence culminating in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol would jolt leaders into action.

Instead, they say, efforts to address violent extremism have stalled over semantics and an eagerness to blame “the other side.”.

This month, just before the House Jan. 6 committee released a final report on its probe of the Capitol insurrection, Republican lawmakers released their own version, which blamed Democratic leaders for security lapses and did not mention President Donald Trump’s fiery remarks or that Trump waited hours before urging the mob to leave.


Also this month, as first reported by Roll Call, lawmakers who wrote the final defense authorization bill “deleted or diluted” all seven House-passed provisions related to extremism in the U.S. military or broader society…….

 
I'm quoting my own post here because I have since looked into this and I find that instead of it being an "indeed" that it's very unlikely to be any kind of a fruit bearing tree. I am quoting my post to retract my "indeed"

Clearly there are questions to be asked, but what is just as apparent is that the answers will not be forthcoming in any time frame between now and the second coming of Christ.

The "good" Congressman will be dead and buried before our court system could process that case and bring it to a conclusion.

It's most compelling points are the seeds of what will entangle it in a never ending pursuit. George Santos' campaign received an outlandish contribution from the American citizen cousin of a Russian oligarch.

The same cousin and oligarch also gave an outlandish amount to Trump for his inauguration. (What did that buy for them?)

Furthermore the same cousin and oligarch were sanctioned and had assets seized by the US Treasury, which lead to an interesting lawsuit which dragged on for three years coming to a somewhat inconclusive settlement that I was unable to determine who "won". I was unable to sort out if the cousin and oligarch got their fortune back or lost it to the US government.

This is that tangled web of a court docket which covers that unbelievably complex lawsuit:

https://www.courtlistener.com/docke...ted-states-department-of-the-treasury-office/

That lawsuit did end with a voluntary dismissal which ended the case. But that order at the end didn't say what happened to the cousin and oligarch's fortune. That outcome about the money part would be buried in the middle of what is a very long list of documents.

What this shows me is that where these people are concerned any legal action undertaken will wind up buried in a mountain of ever increasing filed documents which will delay any conclusion for longer than that "good" Congressman will ever be in Congress.

So as a means of removing him from Congress with a conviction and jail time where his co-defendants would be that cousin and that Russian oligarch forget it. Hell would freeze over that case long before it would conclude.

Some people really are above the law. :(
 
This is a different case than the one which involves the Russian oligarch and his cousin. This one might be solvable during my lifetime.

 
I would submit that the extremism starts at the very top of these corporations. The ratio of CEO pay to hourly worker pay used to be in the 30:1 range in the 1980’s. It’s now in the range of 400:1. People notice that shirt.

 
I would submit that the extremism starts at the very top of these corporations. The ratio of CEO pay to hourly worker pay used to be in the 30:1 range in the 1980’s. It’s now in the range of 400:1. People notice that shirt.


I don’t know that they are noticing

Read an article (it was from a few years ago, I think right before the pandemic) that most people think CEO pay is 25-30 to 1
 
I don’t know that they are noticing

Read an article (it was from a few years ago, I think right before the pandemic) that most people think CEO pay is 25-30 to 1
From the article...
The rise of socialism is why "nobody works, nobody gives a damn," Bernie Marcus said in an interview with the Financial Times Thursday. "'Just give it to me. Send me money. I don't want to work — I'm too lazy, I'm too fat, I'm too stupid.'"

The 93-year-old's comments come as the number of employed Americans sits at a record high 154 million and the US unemployment rate is near a historic low at 3.7%. However, US businesses are still struggling to hire as consumer demand remains strong and many Americans have ditched lower-wage work, such as retail for better options.
What a jackass.
 
I would submit that the extremism starts at the very top of these corporations. The ratio of CEO pay to hourly worker pay used to be in the 30:1 range in the 1980’s. It’s now in the range of 400:1. People notice that shirt.


The replies to the thread were interesting. Some were incredibly stupid but interesting.

Bernie Marcus is either an idiot who doesn’t know what socialism is or he is an idiot bleating “cuz Socialism” because that is the RW buzzword. Either way it matters not. People decided after the pandemic that they weren’t going to work for peanuts any more. Bernie may have worked hard starting the bullschlitz company called Home Depot but he seems to have forgotten what it meant to have little. So, no, I got no use for these people who stomp their feet and whine and complain because labor decided to ask for more.

Bernie? You want to see real socialism? Howzabout the government confiscates your business? Until then shut your piehole about socialism.
 
The replies to the thread were interesting. Some were incredibly stupid but interesting.

Bernie Marcus is either an idiot who doesn’t know what socialism is or he is an idiot bleating “cuz Socialism” because that is the RW buzzword. Either way it matters not. People decided after the pandemic that they weren’t going to work for peanuts any more. Bernie may have worked hard starting the bullschlitz company called Home Depot but he seems to have forgotten what it meant to have little. So, no, I got no use for these people who stomp their feet and whine and complain because labor decided to ask for more.

Bernie? You want to see real socialism? Howzabout the government confiscates your business? Until then shut your piehole about socialism.
Yeah, from what he says he doesn't want Capitalism, he wants Feudalism.
 
I think a lot of people are noticing the extremism of the Rs:

 
I am just seeing this clip from Maddow. This is important, and she’s absolutely right.

 

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