What happens to the Republican Party now? (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[Booker]

and the lies don't stop coming
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Claims by incoming Republican Rep. George Santos that his grandparents “survived the Holocaust” as Ukrainian Jewish refugees from Belgium who changed their surname to survive are contradicted by sources reviewed by CNN’s KFile including family trees compiled by genealogy websites, records on Jewish refugees and interviews with multiple genealogists.

Santos, who has called himself “half Jewish” and a “Latino Jew” in media appearances, has claimed his maternal grandfather was originally from Ukraine and fled to Brazil to escape Nazism. In another telling, the New York Republican said his grandparents converted to Catholicism during the rise of Nazism in Belgium after fleeing Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Union. In another telling, he claimed his family changed their name to survive Nazism.

CNN spoke to multiple genealogists who said there was no proof of the claims. Santos’ misrepresentations of his family history were first reported by The Forward on Wednesday. Records from the Holocaust Museum and the International Center on Nazi Persecution, which contain records on Jewish refugees, also show no mention of Santos’ grandparents.

Megan Smolenyak, an author and professional genealogist who helped research Santos’ family tree at CNN’s request, said in email, “There’s no sign of Jewish and/or Ukrainian heritage and no indication of name changes along the way.”............

MSN

www.msn.com

More weird shirt...

‘Openly Gay’ Rep.-Elect George Santos Didn’t Disclose Divorce With Woman

Photo Illustration by Thomas Levinson/The Daily Beast/GettyRepublican congressman-elect George Santos is under new scrutiny after a New York Times report earlier this week uncovered a string of apparent outright fabrications at the heart of some of the most fundamental facts of his life, but...

www.yahoo.com

 

[coldseat]

More weird shirt...

‘Openly Gay’ Rep.-Elect George Santos Didn’t Disclose Divorce With Woman

Photo Illustration by Thomas Levinson/The Daily Beast/GettyRepublican congressman-elect George Santos is under new scrutiny after a New York Times report earlier this week uncovered a string of apparent outright fabrications at the heart of some of the most fundamental facts of his life, but...

www.yahoo.com

Dude was just pulling a massive con and got elected to Congress. I'm curious if he's even gay. I think it's likely he's not. What a Peice of work!

 

[efil4]

Dude was just pulling a massive con and got elected to Congress. I'm curious if he's even gay. I think it's likely he's not. What a Peice of work!

the older i get the more i realize Life imitates Art ( see Distinguished Gentleman w/ Eddie Murphy ) as opposed to Art imitating Life.

 

[Optimus Prime]

If whoever the next speaker is had the balls they would tell George Santos, "You will not be a United States Congressman, I want your resignation letter on my desk by noon tomorrow"

 

[CoolBrees]

Whoever was in charge of opposition research during the campaign needs to be fired.

It’s too bad that level of neglect of one’s duties isn’t criminal. Because missing this much stuff should be criminal cause you stole your paycheck.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Apparently they did do the research and they were aware and talked about it publicly and it was covered by the local media

Not sure why it wasn't a bigger deal, maybe the media or the campaign didn't make as big a deal over it as they should

As we saw in Georgia, sometimes people just don't care, just want the vote, nothing else matters

and as @coldseat said, with the majority margin thin enough as it is, Santos is staying right where he is. In the halls of Congress

 

[bird]

Apparently they did do the research and they were aware and talked about it publicly and it was covered by the local media

Not sure why it wasn't a bigger deal, maybe the media or the campaign didn't make as big a deal over it as they should

As we saw in Georgia, sometimes people just don't care, just want the vote, nothing else matters

and as @coldseat said, with the majority margin thin enough as it is, Santos is staying right where he is. In the halls of Congress

Yeah, at least until he steps on his Johnson with a young boy.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Yeah, at least until he steps on his Johnson with a young boy.

Maybe not even then. Matt Gaetz is still there

 

[BullSheetBuddha]

Dude was just pulling a massive con and got elected to Congress. I'm curious if he's even gay. I think it's likely he's not. What a Peice of work!

Wouldn't that be something?

 

[MT15]

This is accurate:

 

[MT15]

 

[zztop]

could this be... more hypocrisy... ?

28 Republicans Who Call Gay People 'Groomers' Just Voted Against a Bill Addressing Child Sex Abuse

Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert—two of the loudest voices against imagined child predation by LGBTQ people—voted against the legislation.

jezebel.com

 

[bird]

could this be... more hypocrisy... ?

28 Republicans Who Call Gay People 'Groomers' Just Voted Against a Bill Addressing Child Sex Abuse

Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert—two of the loudest voices against imagined child predation by LGBTQ people—voted against the legislation.

jezebel.com

If Democrats were for it then they were against it. It doesn’t matter what the issue is.

 

[MT15]

So very true, and coincidentally the subject of an email newsletter I got today:

The Oddly Intense Anger Against Volodymyr Zelensky

Domestic animosity drives right-wing rage

newsletters.theatlantic.com

“Partisan polarization doesn’t just explain the fact of right-wing opposition to Ukraine; it also explains its raw intensity.

Simply put, it’s not about Ukraine. It’s about you. A key reason why the new right hates Zelensky is that the new right hates you. You are the real enemy, and anything or anyone you like, they will hate. And, to be clear, I’m not just talking about polarization between Republicans and Democrats. Most Americans (including most Republicans) still support sending additional arms to Ukraine.

This is about polarization against the Democrats, against the Republican establishment, and against traditional Reagan conservatives like me—a coalition the new right calls the “uniparty.” What the alleged uniparty supports, the new right opposes, and it doesn’t just oppose positions; it opposes the people within the alleged uniparty with an almost primal ferocity. Just watch a typical Carlson monologue. It’s peppered with schoolyard insults and juvenile name-calling.

Along with the vitriol, there is a kind of potpourri of positions that goes along with membership in the new right, including vaccine skepticism (or outright opposition) and election denial. No, not every person shares the same position, but the overlap is tremendous—including among most of the public voices I highlighted above.”

 

[MT15]

He continues:

“And it’s important to identify the sheer amount of hatred that animates new-right discourse. You don’t compare foreign leaders to strip-club owners, call them leeches or welfare queens, or fantasize about punching them if you’re simply holding a different opinion about a complex and difficult point of policy.

That’s why it’s become particularly difficult to discuss policy. The new right’s objections to supporting Ukraine, or taking a vaccine, or accepting the results of an election are largely born out of hatred—the conviction that the evil “they” are out to destroy “us”; it’s difficult to reasonably debate policy differences against the backdrop of such extreme animosity. If the new right believes its Democratic and Republican opponents are fundamentally evil, then of course it will believe that the policies and people they support are evil as well.”

 

[MT15]

Last two paragraphs:

“The longer I write about American politics and culture, the more I realize that animosity is our real enemy. The anger in so many American hearts blinds them to the truth, renders them vulnerable to conspiracies, and tempts them into dehumanizing their opponents.

That’s what we saw unfold online this week during Zelensky’s visit. It wasn’t the new right rising in reasoned opposition to American policy, but rather hysterical rage animated by very real hate. And the hatred isn’t truly against the people of Ukraine or even necessarily against Zelensky himself. It’s against you. It’s against me. It’s against the people of this country who the new right believes are rotten to our very core.”

And, after seeing this hatred expressed out loud for years, it’s very difficult not to respond in kind. I need to try harder.

It’s been so gut-wrenching to see people get sucked into conspiracies about vaccines that cause them to slander and libel a good doctor, see them support policies that will actually put women in physical danger, and then see them demonize trans and gay people. To see them tell lies about political parties - calling their political opponents “socialists” and “communists”. Calling normal educators “groomers”. Calling beloved actors and normal politicians “pedophiles” and saying they kill and eat babies.

I’m exhausted by all of this. I want to go back to the times when good people could disagree about policies without one of them being evil.

 

[MT15]

Another example. This idea that thousands of researchers and doctors were involved in some sort of “plot” to harm their fellow citizens rather than that they were furiously working to blunt the carnage of a deadly pandemic is just sick. People who believe that just aren’t right in the head:

 

[Taurus]

Last two paragraphs:

“The longer I write about American politics and culture, the more I realize that animosity is our real enemy. The anger in so many American hearts blinds them to the truth, renders them vulnerable to conspiracies, and tempts them into dehumanizing their opponents.

That’s what we saw unfold online this week during Zelensky’s visit. It wasn’t the new right rising in reasoned opposition to American policy, but rather hysterical rage animated by very real hate. And the hatred isn’t truly against the people of Ukraine or even necessarily against Zelensky himself. It’s against you. It’s against me. It’s against the people of this country who the new right believes are rotten to our very core.”

And, after seeing this hatred expressed out loud for years, it’s very difficult not to respond in kind. I need to try harder.

It’s been so gut-wrenching to see people get sucked into conspiracies about vaccines that cause them to slander and libel a good doctor, see them support policies that will actually put women in physical danger, and then see them demonize trans and gay people. To see them tell lies about political parties - calling their political opponents “socialists” and “communists”. Calling normal educators “groomers”. Calling beloved actors and normal politicians “pedophiles” and saying they kill and eat babies.

I’m exhausted by all of this. I want to go back to the times when good people could disagree about policies without one of them being evil.

That ship sailed when the Religious Right was invited to the halls of power.

People who literally believe in demonic possession cannot be reasoned with. They live in a world of pure, unadulterated evil and utterly righteous good.