Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

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    Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

    Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

    As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

    Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

    How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

    Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.
     
    superchuck500 said:
    That was obvious to me from day 1.

    Anyone that is in the business of recruiting women, whether it be universities (everything from students, to athletes, to faculty, to researchers) to business is going to be challenged by these laws. Why would a woman elect to go to a state where simply becoming pregnant (which can happen intentionally or unintentionally in many different scenarios) puts them at substantial legal and health risk?

    It's crazy that this would be an "unintended consequence." It's a consequence of stupidity - if a lawmaker didn't see this an outcome to be factored in as real, that person is stupid.
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    That’s true
     
    GrandAdmiral said:
    I refuse to listen to this idiot speak. Can anyone summarize?
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    He says "if you don't like the law, change it or get out of my state" you know, the republican motto. They are consistent in their belief that "my way or the highway" style of governance is better for the country than building a consensus.
     
    Wonder who the Republicans in Louisiana will blame when they have control of the Governor's Mansion along with a super majority in the legislature. Guaranteed Louisiana still remains in the bottom five in every objective economic and quality-of-life metric.
     
    GrandAdmiral said:
    And although there is a TRO against the ban's trigger provision...

    www.wwltv.com

    Louisiana commission halts $39 million to New Orleans S&WB for abortion ban defiance

    Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry said he would push for funding to be withheld to the city after elected leaders said they wouldn't enforce abortion laws.
    www.wwltv.com www.wwltv.com
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    Note that Landry did not challenge the TRO put in place by the Baton Rouge judge. Nor did he actually challenge the TRO issued by the judge in Orleans Parish... he merely filed a writ to the LASC seeking it intervene under its plenary power to interpret the statutes regardless of the fact there had been no district court ruling on the merits.

    He doesn't care about the lives of the unborn... this is all political theater.

    Also I would love to see what percentage of taxpayer dollars comes from New Orleans. I'm going to guess it's a large plurality.
     
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    SaulGoodmanEsq said:
    Note that Landry did not challenge the TRO put in place by the Baton Rouge judge. Nor did he actually challenge the TRO issued by the judge in Orleans Parish... he merely filed a writ to the LASC seeking it intervene under its plenary power to interpret the statutes regardless of the fact there had been no district court ruling on the merits.

    He doesn't care about the lives of the unborn... this is all political theater.

    Also I would love to see what percentage of taxpayer dollars comes from New Orleans. I'm going to guess it's a large plurality.
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    It has absolutely nothing to do with the unborn. Anyone can see that clearly now - if they cannot they are deceiving themselves. It’s about controlling women and their full participation in society.
     
    If you guys stuck with the 'safe, legal and rare' every state would still have abortion. As usual the left keep pushing for abortion up until birth and maybe beyond. That forced a counter action. You all have no one to blame than yourselves.

    Now, every state can decide what it wants to allow in their borders (are borders still bad?) exactly how a republic is designed to work.
    The cooperate masters will still pay for abortion travel for those in abortion free states. After all, abortions are much cheaper for he company in the long run verses having a female on maternity leave and soon to be fathers on leave as well.
     
    Farb said:
    If you guys stuck with the 'safe, legal and rare' every state would still have abortion. As usual the left keep pushing for abortion up until birth and maybe beyond. That forced a counter action. You all have no one to blame than yourselves.

    Now, every state can decide what it wants to allow in their borders (are borders still bad?) exactly how a republic is designed to work.
    The cooperate masters will still pay for abortion travel for those in abortion free states. After all, abortions are much cheaper for he company in the long run verses having a female on maternity leave and soon to be fathers on leave as well.
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    That logic will be operative when everything but bolt-action rifles and revolvers are banned, too.
    It'll take longer, of course, because the Right votes, but it'll happen eventually.
     
    zztop said:
    surprised?

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    Not the least bit surprising. Every progress from 1965 has been under attack by Republicans.

    Civil Rights
    Voting rights
    Women
    Housing
    Social Security
    Healthcare
    Equal Opportunity

    Once Republicans overturned the 1965 Voting Rights Act, several states moved to prove the court's majority opinion wrong by immediately passing laws that would have been prohibited by the Voting Rights Act.

    Roberts' opinion:
    ...at redressing racial discrimination and integrating the voting process...If Congress had started from scratch in 2006, it plainly could not have enacted the present coverage formula...Regardless of how to look at the record no one can fairly say that it shows anything approaching the 'pervasive,' 'flagrant,' 'widespread,' and 'rampant' discrimination that faced Congress in 1965, and that clearly distinguished the covered jurisdictions from the rest of the nation.
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    For me, it seems that every action the Republicans take is to correct a wrong the country made to address civil rights movement. Republicans believe that the 1965 VRA and other civil rights laws enacted during that time were enacted by "radical liberals" which led to a "slippery slope" of other "radical liberal" laws being passed.
     
    Farb said:
    If you guys stuck with the 'safe, legal and rare' every state would still have abortion.
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    This is a myth. Or, at least, the GOP definition of 'rare' would be virtually non-existent. It's also an all-too-familiar talking point I see from right-wing pundits... you gotta stop parroting this stuff, man. The far right is on a religious crusade. But that's cool. In the end, they will all realize their core beliefs are fictional.
     
    Farb said:
    If you guys stuck with the 'safe, legal and rare' every state would still have abortion. As usual the left keep pushing for abortion up until birth and maybe beyond. That forced a counter action. You all have no one to blame than yourselves.

    Now, every state can decide what it wants to allow in their borders (are borders still bad?) exactly how a republic is designed to work.
    The cooperate masters will still pay for abortion travel for those in abortion free states. After all, abortions are much cheaper for he company in the long run verses having a female on maternity leave and soon to be fathers on leave as well.
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    Your lies are as despicable as always. You used to be somewhat reality based, now as someone smarter than me has observed, you’re a caricature. It’s not surprising, but it’s been disappointing to watch you become more and more radical.
     
    Taurus said:
    That logic will be operative when everything but bolt-action rifles and revolvers are banned, too.
    It'll take longer, of course, because the Right votes, but it'll happen eventually.
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    You mean the 2nd thing the founders wrote down?
    In a way, you are correct, we, as citizen gun owners, have given in way too much on what the state will allow us to buy and maintain.
     
    SaulGoodmanEsq said:
    This is a myth. Or, at least, the GOP definition of 'rare' would be virtually non-existent. It's also an all-too-familiar talking point I see from right-wing pundits... you gotta stop parroting this stuff, man. The far right is on a religious crusade. But that's cool. In the end, they will all realize their core beliefs are fictional.
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    Would the 10 year old that I keep hearing about not be eligible for a safe, legal and rare abortion? What about the grandma that still wants to bang, or the girl that was raped? Yes, they would.
    You can tell by how the language has changed. At first it wasn't about birth control, only medical and now we are worried only about birth control.
    I think we will hold on to the murder belief though.
     

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