Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[superchuck500]

Isn’t this author Laura Basset @TaylorB daughter?
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Reproductive rights advocates have long warned that women would die if abortion were banned again—that children would be forced to give birth to their rapists’ babies.

I’ve been covering abortion rights for over a decade, and I expected these horrifying, dystopian stories to trickle out over the next six months to maybe a year, forcing people to acknowledge a reality that had long been just hypothetical.

Instead, the stories have sprayed out like a firehose:

A 10-year-old rape survivor had to travel to another state to get safe abortion care, and politicians immediately went after the doctor who helped her;

a Texas hospital let a woman with an ectopic pregnancy bleed until she almost died to avoid getting sued;

Idaho Republicans overwhelmingly voted to let women die before giving them health care. The dystopia is upon us, and it arrived faster than anyone expected……

Just 3 Weeks Post-Roe, The Stories Emerging Are Worse Than Anyone Imagined

We knew it would be awful. We knew pregnant people's lives would be threatened. We didn't know it would all happen so fast.

jezebel.com

Laura is now, I believe, the primary editor at Jezebel.

St Dude's daughter.

 

[brandon]

I thought now was a good time for us to take another stroll down memory lane on where we were on this in 2019.

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[TaylorB]

Laura is now, I believe, the primary editor at Jezebel.

St Dude's daughter.

Yes. Close @Optimus Prime-- she is my sister.

 

[MT15]

I wonder, are they mostly men? They won't care b/c it doesn't personally affect them. B/c until/unless they go through something comparable they probably won't even blink

They’re all men, all Rs. So therefore I have to send them multiple emails with every tragic situation I find out about. I make the point that women who aren’t seeking abortions are being denied essential care and made to suffer needlessly and dangerously because of these stupid laws. They will know the consequences of what they might do. I have all the time in the world to keep telling them.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I hopes she sues the state for medical cost, emotional distress and whatever punitive damages she could think to bring forth. Also, she should name individuals to the suit, starting with Gov JBE and AG Landry.

 

[zztop]

read that 17 (D) were arrested at the protest



(meanwhile)

Republicans have introduced a congressional resolution to declare June as the “Month of Life.” The effort is being spearheaded by Rep. Carol Miller (R-W.Va.) to commemorate the Supreme Court’s decision that Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional.

“As a mother and grandmother, I know the joy that children bring to a family,” Miller said in a July 1 statement from her office. “All children, no matter their age, should be cherished, and the Supreme Court’s decision reaffirms that.

She added: “I am thrilled to stand alongside my colleagues to celebrate this historic moment and designate June as the ‘Month of Life.’ I urge my colleagues to pass this resolution immediately to honor the unborn and stand up for life.”

 

[superchuck500]

I hopes she sues the state for medical cost, emotional distress and whatever punitive damages she could think to bring forth. Also, she should name individuals to the suit, starting with Gov JBE and AG Landry.

It’s a nonstarter. Those claims just aren’t viable - they have sovereign immunity for personal injury claims in this context.

 

[Optimus Prime]

more unintended consequences
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A few days ago, a university headhunter reached out to Elizabeth T. Jacobs, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Arizona, to gauge her interest in moving to a leading university in Texas.

Under normal circumstances and in professional terms, the opportunity would have seemed intriguing. "It was an attractive situation," Jacobs told me. "It was at an institution I have a lot of respect for, and I would not have dismissed it out of hand."

But the political environment in Texas is not normal, in Jacobs' view. She informed the recruiter that "under the current state leadership I didn't think my family would be safe in that state."

University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones, following Supreme Court abortion ruling Jacobs had a lengthy list of concerns about policies being implemented by Texas' Republican governor, Greg Abbott...........

The bounty provisions "are going to dissuade the most qualified professionals from accepting jobs in places where they could be prosecuted for saving the life of a pregnant person," Jacobs says. "Over time, that degrades the entire medical apparatus."

Jacobs depends on the drug methotrexate to treat her rheumatoid arthritis. But because the drug can also be used to induce abortions, pharmacists in Texas can refuse to dispense it. "I can't imagine being cut off from a medication that my doctor prescribes to reduce my symptoms."

Jacobs is also concerned about the environment in which her two teenage sons would grow up — one in which gun restrictions are being loosened even in the face of mass shootings, teachers aren't free to teach the full pageant of American history, good and bad, and in which LGBTQ residents are targeted by official policies.

"I don't know who they're going to become or who they're going to fall in love with," she says. "But I don't want to move to a state where their options are restricted."

Jacobs' concerns are not unique or even unusual among professional workers. Indeed, they're spreading. Her July 16 tweet about her encounter with the recruiter has been retweeted 7,900 times and garnered 72,600 "likes" from Twitter users.

University faculty members in red states are publicly expressing concerns about the impact of exclusionary right-wing policies on their efforts to attract students and recruit qualified people to their institutions. Some have put out public feelers soliciting job offers from states with less-restrictive abortion laws.

"As of tomorrow, I am on the open market," University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones tweeted June 24, the day the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 decision that established a constitutional right to abortion. Jones said he would be willing to bring his 12 lab members, of whom eight are women, with him. "I will not endanger my team," he wrote...........

MSN

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[coldseat]

more unintended consequences
=====================

A few days ago, a university headhunter reached out to Elizabeth T. Jacobs, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Arizona, to gauge her interest in moving to a leading university in Texas.

Under normal circumstances and in professional terms, the opportunity would have seemed intriguing. "It was an attractive situation," Jacobs told me. "It was at an institution I have a lot of respect for, and I would not have dismissed it out of hand."

But the political environment in Texas is not normal, in Jacobs' view. She informed the recruiter that "under the current state leadership I didn't think my family would be safe in that state."

University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones, following Supreme Court abortion ruling Jacobs had a lengthy list of concerns about policies being implemented by Texas' Republican governor, Greg Abbott...........

The bounty provisions "are going to dissuade the most qualified professionals from accepting jobs in places where they could be prosecuted for saving the life of a pregnant person," Jacobs says. "Over time, that degrades the entire medical apparatus."

Jacobs depends on the drug methotrexate to treat her rheumatoid arthritis. But because the drug can also be used to induce abortions, pharmacists in Texas can refuse to dispense it. "I can't imagine being cut off from a medication that my doctor prescribes to reduce my symptoms."

Jacobs is also concerned about the environment in which her two teenage sons would grow up — one in which gun restrictions are being loosened even in the face of mass shootings, teachers aren't free to teach the full pageant of American history, good and bad, and in which LGBTQ residents are targeted by official policies.

"I don't know who they're going to become or who they're going to fall in love with," she says. "But I don't want to move to a state where their options are restricted."

Jacobs' concerns are not unique or even unusual among professional workers. Indeed, they're spreading. Her July 16 tweet about her encounter with the recruiter has been retweeted 7,900 times and garnered 72,600 "likes" from Twitter users.

University faculty members in red states are publicly expressing concerns about the impact of exclusionary right-wing policies on their efforts to attract students and recruit qualified people to their institutions. Some have put out public feelers soliciting job offers from states with less-restrictive abortion laws.

"As of tomorrow, I am on the open market," University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones tweeted June 24, the day the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 decision that established a constitutional right to abortion. Jones said he would be willing to bring his 12 lab members, of whom eight are women, with him. "I will not endanger my team," he wrote...........

MSN

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I would not recommend anybody move to Texas.

 

[Taurus]

more unintended consequences
=====================

A few days ago, a university headhunter reached out to Elizabeth T. Jacobs, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Arizona, to gauge her interest in moving to a leading university in Texas.

Under normal circumstances and in professional terms, the opportunity would have seemed intriguing. "It was an attractive situation," Jacobs told me. "It was at an institution I have a lot of respect for, and I would not have dismissed it out of hand."

But the political environment in Texas is not normal, in Jacobs' view. She informed the recruiter that "under the current state leadership I didn't think my family would be safe in that state."

University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones, following Supreme Court abortion ruling Jacobs had a lengthy list of concerns about policies being implemented by Texas' Republican governor, Greg Abbott...........

The bounty provisions "are going to dissuade the most qualified professionals from accepting jobs in places where they could be prosecuted for saving the life of a pregnant person," Jacobs says. "Over time, that degrades the entire medical apparatus."

Jacobs depends on the drug methotrexate to treat her rheumatoid arthritis. But because the drug can also be used to induce abortions, pharmacists in Texas can refuse to dispense it. "I can't imagine being cut off from a medication that my doctor prescribes to reduce my symptoms."

Jacobs is also concerned about the environment in which her two teenage sons would grow up — one in which gun restrictions are being loosened even in the face of mass shootings, teachers aren't free to teach the full pageant of American history, good and bad, and in which LGBTQ residents are targeted by official policies.

"I don't know who they're going to become or who they're going to fall in love with," she says. "But I don't want to move to a state where their options are restricted."

Jacobs' concerns are not unique or even unusual among professional workers. Indeed, they're spreading. Her July 16 tweet about her encounter with the recruiter has been retweeted 7,900 times and garnered 72,600 "likes" from Twitter users.

University faculty members in red states are publicly expressing concerns about the impact of exclusionary right-wing policies on their efforts to attract students and recruit qualified people to their institutions. Some have put out public feelers soliciting job offers from states with less-restrictive abortion laws.

"As of tomorrow, I am on the open market," University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones tweeted June 24, the day the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 decision that established a constitutional right to abortion. Jones said he would be willing to bring his 12 lab members, of whom eight are women, with him. "I will not endanger my team," he wrote...........

MSN

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The plan is obviously working.
Even the 2030 census won't fix the problem with Senators and state legislatures.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

It’s a nonstarter. Those claims just aren’t viable - they have sovereign immunity for personal injury claims in this context.

Well, that just sucks the government can make laws to inflict pain & suffering without any repercussions. It is as if they don't care about those of us who were born. I can't help but to think we are a failed species.

 

[Nolaswede]

more unintended consequences
=====================

A few days ago, a university headhunter reached out to Elizabeth T. Jacobs, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Arizona, to gauge her interest in moving to a leading university in Texas.

Under normal circumstances and in professional terms, the opportunity would have seemed intriguing. "It was an attractive situation," Jacobs told me. "It was at an institution I have a lot of respect for, and I would not have dismissed it out of hand."

But the political environment in Texas is not normal, in Jacobs' view. She informed the recruiter that "under the current state leadership I didn't think my family would be safe in that state."

University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones, following Supreme Court abortion ruling Jacobs had a lengthy list of concerns about policies being implemented by Texas' Republican governor, Greg Abbott...........

The bounty provisions "are going to dissuade the most qualified professionals from accepting jobs in places where they could be prosecuted for saving the life of a pregnant person," Jacobs says. "Over time, that degrades the entire medical apparatus."

Jacobs depends on the drug methotrexate to treat her rheumatoid arthritis. But because the drug can also be used to induce abortions, pharmacists in Texas can refuse to dispense it. "I can't imagine being cut off from a medication that my doctor prescribes to reduce my symptoms."

Jacobs is also concerned about the environment in which her two teenage sons would grow up — one in which gun restrictions are being loosened even in the face of mass shootings, teachers aren't free to teach the full pageant of American history, good and bad, and in which LGBTQ residents are targeted by official policies.

"I don't know who they're going to become or who they're going to fall in love with," she says. "But I don't want to move to a state where their options are restricted."

Jacobs' concerns are not unique or even unusual among professional workers. Indeed, they're spreading. Her July 16 tweet about her encounter with the recruiter has been retweeted 7,900 times and garnered 72,600 "likes" from Twitter users.

University faculty members in red states are publicly expressing concerns about the impact of exclusionary right-wing policies on their efforts to attract students and recruit qualified people to their institutions. Some have put out public feelers soliciting job offers from states with less-restrictive abortion laws.

"As of tomorrow, I am on the open market," University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones tweeted June 24, the day the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 decision that established a constitutional right to abortion. Jones said he would be willing to bring his 12 lab members, of whom eight are women, with him. "I will not endanger my team," he wrote...........

MSN

www.msn.com

Yes, it is scary for sure!

I might be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere in a local newspaper, that we will probably lose some conferences that otherwise would have come to New Orleans. Wasn’t sure if it had already happened, or just a future prediction! But I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens!

 

[superchuck500]

more unintended consequences
=====================

A few days ago, a university headhunter reached out to Elizabeth T. Jacobs, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Arizona, to gauge her interest in moving to a leading university in Texas.

Under normal circumstances and in professional terms, the opportunity would have seemed intriguing. "It was an attractive situation," Jacobs told me. "It was at an institution I have a lot of respect for, and I would not have dismissed it out of hand."

But the political environment in Texas is not normal, in Jacobs' view. She informed the recruiter that "under the current state leadership I didn't think my family would be safe in that state."

University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones, following Supreme Court abortion ruling Jacobs had a lengthy list of concerns about policies being implemented by Texas' Republican governor, Greg Abbott...........

The bounty provisions "are going to dissuade the most qualified professionals from accepting jobs in places where they could be prosecuted for saving the life of a pregnant person," Jacobs says. "Over time, that degrades the entire medical apparatus."

Jacobs depends on the drug methotrexate to treat her rheumatoid arthritis. But because the drug can also be used to induce abortions, pharmacists in Texas can refuse to dispense it. "I can't imagine being cut off from a medication that my doctor prescribes to reduce my symptoms."

Jacobs is also concerned about the environment in which her two teenage sons would grow up — one in which gun restrictions are being loosened even in the face of mass shootings, teachers aren't free to teach the full pageant of American history, good and bad, and in which LGBTQ residents are targeted by official policies.

"I don't know who they're going to become or who they're going to fall in love with," she says. "But I don't want to move to a state where their options are restricted."

Jacobs' concerns are not unique or even unusual among professional workers. Indeed, they're spreading. Her July 16 tweet about her encounter with the recruiter has been retweeted 7,900 times and garnered 72,600 "likes" from Twitter users.

University faculty members in red states are publicly expressing concerns about the impact of exclusionary right-wing policies on their efforts to attract students and recruit qualified people to their institutions. Some have put out public feelers soliciting job offers from states with less-restrictive abortion laws.

"As of tomorrow, I am on the open market," University of Utah neuroscientist Bryan William Jones tweeted June 24, the day the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 decision that established a constitutional right to abortion. Jones said he would be willing to bring his 12 lab members, of whom eight are women, with him. "I will not endanger my team," he wrote...........

MSN

www.msn.com

That was obvious to me from day 1.

Anyone that is in the business of recruiting women, whether it be universities (everything from students, to athletes, to faculty, to researchers) to business is going to be challenged by these laws. Why would a woman elect to go to a state where simply becoming pregnant (which can happen intentionally or unintentionally in many different scenarios) puts them at substantial legal and health risk?

It's crazy that this would be an "unintended consequence." It's a consequence of stupidity - if a lawmaker didn't see this an outcome to be factored in as real, that person is stupid.

 

[Taurus]

That was obvious to me from day 1.

Anyone that is in the business of recruiting women, whether it be universities (everything from students, to athletes, to faculty, to researchers) to business is going to be challenged by these laws. Why would a woman elect to go to a state where simply becoming pregnant (which can happen intentionally or unintentionally in many different scenarios) puts them at substantial legal and health risk?

It's crazy that this would be an "unintended consequence." It's a consequence of stupidity - if a lawmaker didn't see this an outcome to be factored in as real, that person is stupid.

It's an intended consequence.
If you aren't on board with the US Taliban, they don't want you as a citizen.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

It's an intended consequence.
If you aren't on board with the US Taliban, they don't want you as a citizen.

Yep. Feature, not a bug.

 

[superchuck500]

It's an intended consequence.
If you aren't on board with the US Taliban, they don't want you as a citizen.

Certainly to those lawmakers and their constituents who don’t think women should even be doing those things at all (should be home with the kids) it’s not a concern. But the state’s university system and business community still matter to many of them. Talk about pissing in the cereal.

 

[Taurus]

Certainly to those lawmakers and their constituents who don’t think women should even be doing those things at all (should be home with the kids) it’s not a concern. But the state’s university system and business community still matter to many of them. Talk about pissing in the cereal.

Why do they matter, though?

If you view Republican actions through the lens of preserving power at all costs then these other issues don't matter.

Everyone but 100 Talibubbas could flee Texas and they'd still have two Senators, the same number of congressmen, the same number of electors and every single one would be a Republican.

It's kind of like how people say that trickle-down economics is a failure. It's not, though. Because the goal has always been to concentrate wealth in the hands of the few. In that it's been hideously successful.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

It's an intended consequence.
If you aren't on board with the US Taliban, they don't want you as a citizen.

The sad thing is that what you said is not hyperbole.