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[Farb]

For all the things related to the Biden/Harris Administration and their latest hits and misses

https://www.dailywire.com/news/whit...gedly-sexually-harassing-threatening-reporter

Interesting story, looks like 'only the best people' didn't stop with the new administration.

 

[The moose]

Our Sniffer in Chief's backers love them some WAR! For 4 years they had to wait but they got their boy in office now.

Well considering the last guy we could not call him the [Mod edit ] here you should call him joe at the very least.

You see this thread is for you I get that but you should have to play by the same rules as all people here.

Have fun posting your fox news articles and all that jazz but grow up and play by the rules here.

 

[CoolBrees]

Well since we don’t have any repulsive tweets or wildly inaccurate historical references to drag, all Sleepy Joe has left us to discuss is policy.

Biden hikes cost of carbon, easing path for new climate rules

The social cost of carbon could have ripple effects throughout industry.

www.politico.com

I am favor this step in the right direction towards eventually restoring ourselves as a global leader.

Biden says Saudi announcement to come Monday; White House plays down new steps

President Joe Biden on Saturday said his administration would make an announcement on Saudi Arabia on Monday, following a U.S. intelligence report that found Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had approved the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

www.reuters.com

I am going to bevery interested to see our position on this after our former lapdog of a president refused to hold the kingdom responsible for their actionz

 

[DaveXA]

Well since we don’t have any repulsive tweets or wildly inaccurate historical references to drag, all Sleepy Joe has left us to discuss is policy.

Biden hikes cost of carbon, easing path for new climate rules

The social cost of carbon could have ripple effects throughout industry.

www.politico.com

I am favor this step in the right direction towards eventually restoring ourselves as a global leader.

Biden says Saudi announcement to come Monday; White House plays down new steps

President Joe Biden on Saturday said his administration would make an announcement on Saudi Arabia on Monday, following a U.S. intelligence report that found Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had approved the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

www.reuters.com

I am going to bevery interested to see our position on this after our former lapdog of a president refused to hold the kingdom responsible for their actionz

Ultimately, I don't think anything will come of the Saudi actions. If we didn't do much with them through multiple administrations in regards to 9-11, I don't see that changing now. I'd be very surprised at any sanctions on the Saudis. They allow us to stage operations and use their airspace (afaik). I don't think Biden is going to risk alienating them because of that. I'm not a fan of it, but I get why the status quo has been the m.o. of multiple Presidencies.

I'm good with the return to sanity on the environmental and climate change fronts. I think rebuilding alliances that were neglected during the Trump administration would go a long way towards restoring confidence in the USA among our allies.

 

[GMRfellowtraveller]

Ultimately, I don't think anything will come of the Saudi actions. If we didn't do much with them through multiple administrations in regards to 9-11, I don't see that changing now. I'd be very surprised at any sanctions on the Saudis. They allow us to stage operations and use their airspace (afaik). I don't think Biden is going to risk alienating them because of that. I'm not a fan of it, but I get why the status quo has been the m.o. of multiple Presidencies.

I'm good with the return to sanity on the environmental and climate change fronts. I think rebuilding alliances that were neglected during the Trump administration would go a long way towards restoring confidence in the USA among our allies.

while this analysis comes straight from my derriere, i wonder if we're in a different place now bc we are close to having renewable energy being at a similar cost as fossil, if not more affordable
of course the Saltines will say "but what about petroleum/plastics"?!?! which is valid, but i think we're in a different energy place than we've ever been before

 

[CoolBrees]

I Agree with guido.

Our dependence on fossil fuels - especial foreign sourced- is dramatically different now. once we have no need for their resources, our interests in the region are gone.

We still need it atm, but the day is not too far off where we won’t. Need based on foreign sources, even sooner.

 

[samiam5211]

Ultimately, I don't think anything will come of the Saudi actions. If we didn't do much with them through multiple administrations in regards to 9-11, I don't see that changing now. I'd be very surprised at any sanctions on the Saudis. They allow us to stage operations and use their airspace (afaik). I don't think Biden is going to risk alienating them because of that. I'm not a fan of it, but I get why the status quo has been the m.o. of multiple Presidencies.

I'm good with the return to sanity on the environmental and climate change fronts. I think rebuilding alliances that were neglected during the Trump administration would go a long way towards restoring confidence in the USA among our allies.

We need to pivot towards Iran.

It will cause some people to go into fits, but the people of Iran have more in common with Americans than any other in the Middle East outside of Israel.

There won’t be peace in the region until Israel makes major concessions to the Palestinians, and supporting Iran over Saudi Arabia would put also push Israel in that direction.

It would have prepped in both side of our political aisle apoplectic, so it will never happen.

 

[Saintman2884]

We need to pivot towards Iran.

It will cause some people to go into fits, but the people of Iran have more in common with Americans than any other in the Middle East outside of Israel.

There won’t be peace in the region until Israel makes major concessions to the Palestinians, and supporting Iran over Saudi Arabia would put also push Israel in that direction.

It would have prepped in both side of our political aisle apoplectic, so it will never happen.

Many individual Iranians might be amenable and reasonable politically, its just Iran has this medieval-minded theocratic regime that has an atrocious human rights record, persecuted homosexuals, religious minorities, doesn't allow women to walk on their own unaccompanied without a male friend/relative, can't show their hair and have to be covered up in burquas, chardres, or veils, and heaven help any women who defies them one bit because the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, "Religious fashion police" patrol the streets, looking for suspected or would-be infidels not following medieval, outdated Islamic theocratic rules. In Saudi Arabia, you have a ultra-fundamentalist, puritanical powerful religious sect,.Wahhabism, but as influential as they are, their not the ruling elites, the Saudi royal family is and while they give lip service to strict Wahhabist clerics, their not overly religiously zealous to the extent, Iran's leaders are. Plus, considering the fact that Sunni Islam is the overwhelming majority of most of this.world's Muslims, around 85%, don't expect countries Saudi Arabia, Turkey, emerging regional military powers in ME, to be making too many overtures to Iran to unite or work together for a common Arab Muslim brotherhood. This isn't the late 50's and 60's anymore and their are very few potential charismatic emerging Arab nationalists like Nasser and Sadat waiting in the wings to unite the Arab world against Western "neo-imperialism".

Then there's the nagging unending screw of bitter memories of the 1979-81 Iranian hostage crisis where Americans and Carter administration were left seemingly helpless to try and come up with reasonable plan to try free or rescue the hostages. Operation Eagle Claw/Desert One was a badly-managed, hastily arranged rescue plan where all of the key intangibles that absolutely had to come together for it to work, failed miserably and it cost Carter a second Presidential term. Some Americans, particularly on the right, have never forgiven or forgotten those incidents, and their far more likely to want to punch and spit on some of those hardline Supreme Council theocrats then shake their hands and pretend nothing ever happened. More then a few of them would prefer to see their arses get stung then become friends. Even today, I still get the subtle impression whenever I talk to Iranian-Americans or when their interviewed to discuss Iran's domestic affairs, or their role in larger ME geopolitics, some of them seem like their trying to subconsciously not confirm or destroy this image that most Iranians aren't fanatical, bigoted, religious zealots who jail homosexuals, emotionally or physically abuse women, or treat Iranian Jews or Christians like second-class dog shirt.

If we were dealing with majority of Iranian people and even Iranian-Americans as the ruling government---sensible, rational political actors, any potential, long-lasting deal wouldve happened a long time ago, but its that horrendous, theocratic regime we'd be negotiating with instead and that's a huge problem because of the past tendencies to seem irrational, think or behave in this medieval, unscientific prism of the world. Khomeini once remarked that economics was "the work of donkeys" all the while Iran was involved in one of the most bloodiest, costliest in terms of human lives, wars in post-WWII 20th century--Iran/Iraq War and their once prominent economy became ram-shackled and ruined. Openly funding and financing terrorist organizations/operations like Hamas, Hezbollah, hell even Provos IRA during the 1980's didnt help their international reputation, either.

I'd much rather deal with Cuba and since both Castros are either dead or retired, far more Americans interpret it as like we're dealing with a different regime and if we normalize relations, it'll save face because we won't have to face up to the potential blowback that Castro somehow won this 60-year stand off that nearly led to nuclear war in October 1962.

 

[DaveXA]

I Agree with guido.

Our dependence on fossil fuels - especial foreign sourced- is dramatically different now. once we have no need for their resources, our interests in the region are gone.

We still need it atm, but the day is not too far off where we won’t. Need based on foreign sources, even sooner.

I agree we're in a different place yet. And I know conventional wisdom says when we become energy independent, we won't have to rely on OPEC, but, I really don't think oil is the only, or even main reason we have an interest in the ME. We have numerous allies in the area and what happens there impacts Europe and Asia. The Saudis are one of the most influential countries in the ME and completely severing ties will create a whole new set of problems. It's largely why I think our response to them post-9-11 has been weak at best.

I think this is bigger than fossil fuels. I could be wrong, but that seems to be the view from afar.

 

[DaveXA]

We need to pivot towards Iran.

It will cause some people to go into fits, but the people of Iran have more in common with Americans than any other in the Middle East outside of Israel.

There won’t be peace in the region until Israel makes major concessions to the Palestinians, and supporting Iran over Saudi Arabia would put also push Israel in that direction.

It would have prepped in both side of our political aisle apoplectic, so it will never happen.

I'm definitely open to this. But having several Iranian friends, the ones I've spoken to don't think that will ever happen until the current people in power are removed.

 

[Saintman2884]

I'm definitely open to this. But having several Iranian friends, the ones I've spoken to don't think that will ever happen until the current people in power are removed.

So, even they realize the hardline Iranian theocratic regime isn't the sort of rational, moderate political actors that are medieval in their views of geopolitics, modern 21st century world views, or trying to believe they'll take any good faith attempts at reproachment seriously and won't try to manipulate it for their long-term benefits while we're made to appear like saps.

I've had similar-type conversations with a few Iranian-Americans that came to similar conclusions, by and large.

 

[Farb]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...es-democrats-names-asks-what-am-i-doing-here/

Trust me, I am pulling for this guy to make it the full 4 years. I am just not seeing how he will. With the vocal far left upset with him, I think there will be a push to get Kamala in the WH. I personally think they will try and wait until after the midterms so as not spook the normal liberals and Democrats so as not to jeopardize the house and senate seat races.

 

[MT15]

This is just laughable. Really Farb? How do you think he meant the phrase “what am I doing here?” To me it was obvious he was frustrated by his slip ups on the names. He is a stutterer and got hung up. That will tend to snowball for people who stutter.

But you hang on to your delusions about him and your conspiracy theory about Harris. She must scare you to death. Lol.

He is so far doing just fine in the cognitive department.

 

[efil4]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...es-democrats-names-asks-what-am-i-doing-here/

Trust me, I am pulling for this guy to make it the full 4 years. I am just not seeing how he will. With the vocal far left upset with him, I think there will be a push to get Kamala in the WH. I personally think they will try and wait until after the midterms so as not spook the normal liberals and Democrats so as not to jeopardize the house and senate seat races.

okie dokie.

yall cant help but look for conspiracies, can ya? Gotta live outside reality.

you are being slow-walked into a cauldron of lies and cant even see it because you want soooo hard to believe it to be true.

Some of you guys are entirely too gullible.

 

[brandon]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...es-democrats-names-asks-what-am-i-doing-here/

Trust me, I am pulling for this guy to make it the full 4 years. I am just not seeing how he will. With the vocal far left upset with him, I think there will be a push to get Kamala in the WH. I personally think they will try and wait until after the midterms so as not spook the normal liberals and Democrats so as not to jeopardize the house and senate seat races.

Why do you want this to happen?

I ask because there's no one serious on the left who is even remotely thinking this is going to happen, but it's a pretty common talking point on the right. What's the point? What does this wishful thinking do to the right? Like, I know it's wishful thinking, but I can't figure out why.

 

[Devildog]

Breitbart? Really?

 

[bdb13]

Why do you want this to happen?

I ask because there's no one serious on the left who is even remotely thinking this is going to happen, but it's a pretty common talking point on the right. What's the point? What does this wishful thinking do to the right? Like, I know it's wishful thinking, but I can't figure out why.

They all thought that Kamala or Cuomo was going to replace Biden before the 2020 election.. just one of those conspiracies that won't ever die.

 

[DaveXA]

They all thought that Kamala or Cuomo was going to replace Biden before the 2020 election.. just one of those conspiracies that won't ever die.

Indeed, my Qanon-ish friend basically said they (whoever 'they' is) were planning to replace Biden with Harris, or omgzlolz Michelle Obama!

I just lol now.

 

[Farb]

But you hang on to your delusions about him and your conspiracy theory about Harris. She must scare you to death. Lol.

She actually terrifies me to be honest.