Will “mass deportation” actually happen (5 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

It's so they can target Muslims.

Dearborn's endorsement of Trump will be one of the biggest political self-own's in history.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

@brandon

The Confrontation Between Trump and the Supreme Court Has Arrived

The justices ordered the government to seek the return of a man whom it had wrongfully deported.

www.theatlantic.com

It helps that it was unanimous. It also should be obvious, I hate that I wasn't certain it would go unanimously.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[coldseat]

Trump and DHS can get this man back in hours. Not buying any of their relentless bullshirt. They just don't want to and will drag this out as long as possible and deny everything. They're truly abhorrent, evil people!

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Is there a reasonable legal justification for this?
Also, what's the declared logic of the government at this point in time?
They detained and deported a man with full legal rights in the United States and shipped him to a prison in El Salvador without ever charging him with a crime.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Is there a reasonable legal justification for this?
Also, what's the declared logic of the government at this point in time?
They detained and deported a man with full legal rights in the United States and shipped him to a prison in El Salvador without ever charging him with a crime.

Are you suggesting that "Don't wanna!" is not a sound and reasonable legal justification?

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Are you suggesting that "Don't wanna!" is not a sound and reasonable legal justification?

I know, I'm going out on a limb here.
But usually there has been some legal theory to most of the administration's attempts. I disagree with most of them, but I'm also ok with different interpretations of the law and letting that play out through the courts. I just haven't seen one with this.

 

[MT15]

Is there a reasonable legal justification for this?
Also, what's the declared logic of the government at this point in time?
They detained and deported a man with full legal rights in the United States and shipped him to a prison in El Salvador without ever charging him with a crime.

Almost none of the people there were charged with any crimes, other than the misdemeanor of being in the US without permission. They should return and then treat each of them as the law demands.

 

[superchuck500]

Is there a reasonable legal justification for this?
Also, what's the declared logic of the government at this point in time?
They detained and deported a man with full legal rights in the United States and shipped him to a prison in El Salvador without ever charging him with a crime.

Judge ain’t having it

 

[MT15]

I know, I'm going out on a limb here.
But usually there has been some legal theory to most of the administration's attempts. I disagree with most of them, but I'm also ok with different interpretations of the law and letting that play out through the courts. I just haven't seen one with this.

IIrc they were trying to say the us justice system has no business with ruling on someone who isn’t in the us and is also not a citizen. Basically they were saying “you can’t make me”.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Judge ain’t having it

I'm still trying to figure out any sort of justification for not just bringing the guy home other than pure abject maliciousness.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I feel like I (and most us) could/should end every post in every thread with

“Fork everyone who voted for this chaos!”

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When Jonathan returned from the US to Australia for a two-day trip to scatter his sister’s ashes, he packed only two changes of clothes, leaving enough space in his small bag to carry the empty ashes urn to his home in the US. The trip was so brief he didn’t even pack a laptop charger.

The Australian says he was detained and deported when returning from the memorial in March, despite holding a working visa still valid for more than 15 months. He has been living on the US east coast for seven years – where his American partner, apartment, work studio and clients remain.

Jonathan, who spoke on the condition his real name was not disclosed, says he is now couch surfing in Sydney, separated from his “whole life”.

The situation, he says, is “a bit disastrous”.

The disaster began at border control in transit in Houston, Texas, when he was pulled aside and taken to a “secondary” room, he says.

Posters hanging on the walls that had once celebrated diversity, equity and inclusion, had been crudely updated with a black marker pen, with mentions of DEI scribbled out. About 100 people from around the world sat and lay in various states of worry and exhaustion, he says.

“There were so many people in this room. A heavy percentage of them were from South America. I met a girl from Berlin. There were a bunch of people from Canada. There were two Brits.”

After about half an hour, he says, his name was called out. He was asked if he wanted to call the Australian consulate, but declined.

“I thought I was just going to be given my passport and sent on my way, or maybe asked a couple of questions, but they made some pretty outlandish accusations. They said, ‘We know you have two mobile phones. We’ve been tracking your calls. We know you’ve been selling drugs’.”

He says he told the border officer he did not drink, smoke or take drugs and owned just one phone. He was asked for his passcode.

“That didn’t sound right. I asked to talk to a lawyer and they told me I had no rights.” He says he was given a brochure explaining that he must surrender his phone and so handed it over, along with his smartwatch.

He says things “seemed really forking weird” but he was careful to remain “overly polite”. He says when he asked the officer to repeat a comment he hadn’t heard, the man replied: “Are you deaf or just mentally challenged?”……..

He says his visa was still valid for more than 15 months and he had left and re-entered the US without any problems about 20 times holding the same class of visa.

He says that over a series of short interviews amounting to about half an hour, the official told him his visa had been cancelled and that he was banned from entering the US for five years, including as a transit passenger.

He was told he would be placed on a flight to Australia and was handed a document informing him that he was an “immigrant not in possession of a valid unexpired immigrant visa” as required by the Immigration and Nationality Act. He says he felt he had no choice but to sign the document, which Guardian Australia has seen.

He says the official then told him: “Trump is back in town; we’re doing things the way we should have always been doing them.”………

Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial

Man who says he had previously left and re-entered the country multiple times alleges border officials called him ‘mentally challenged’ and boasted ‘Trump is back in town’

www.theguardian.com

 

[superchuck500]

 

[brandon]

We’re definitely at the moment of truth here. Hope for the sake of the country the administration blinks.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[superchuck500]

 

[efil4]

What is remedy? contempt? This is nuts.

" we read it differently"...?????

 

[superchuck500]