Will “mass deportation” actually happen

[superchuck500]

It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

 

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[Sendai]

I’m not disputing the stats, although I suspect some of them are cherry picked with respect to time frames. I think the stats are a very poor way to decide that a judge is not following the law. The judges decide each case based on merit and none of what you (or anyone else) are doing is looking at the facts of the cases and saying they were wrongly decided. To take someone off the job, especially when they need to move these cases quickly, you would want to have something specific. At least if you’re being fair and unbiased yourself.

As for your sources, I did a quick search of Mission Local and word is that it is very closely aligned with certain politicians, and not as unbiased as they claim. Their largest donor is a Serbian walnut grower which seems odd to me.

Neither paper has any allegations of impropriety for any of the judges anyway. These stats do not prove anything.

The time frame was rather clear - one month shy of six years. 96.2% over a time frame of one month shy of six years. That’s not cherry picking.

 

[MT15]

The time frame was rather clear - one month shy of six years. 96.2% over a time frame of one month shy of six years. That’s not cherry picking.

Whatever, it’s still not a valid way to come to any conclusions. You seem to be suggesting that judges have to rule by a set percentage point - when each case is different and should be decided on its own merits. It’s a crappy way to fire someone.

If you want to use those metrics, fine. Use it to start a review of their cases, and IF you find malpractice then you can fire them. But we don’t have that. We have a sort of quota system in place and the judge better hit those metrics no matter what the individual cases are.

You seem to think that nobody should get asylum. That’s what bothers Stephen Miller. He doesn’t want to let anybody in. It’s a bigoted way to be, and stupid and self-defeating. America is as successful as it is (well, used to be) because of our immigrants. They have been the fuel that drives the economy. You and Miller will find out just how much we depend on them in the next couple of years unless Trump is stopped.

Xenophobic fools have taken over DC. It’s embarrassing and destructive.

 

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Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have infuriated Rhode Island’s governor, a senator, and its state Supreme Court chief justice after officers detained a high school statehouse intern on suspicion that they were an illegal immigrant.

Recordings of the incident show ICE agents detaining the teen, who was traveling from the statehouse to his school as part of an internship at the Rhode Island Superior Court. The teen was being driven to school by a judge when ICE agents intercepted them

Governor Dan McKee called the incident "indefensible" in a statement.

“ICE agents wrongfully detained a high school intern outside the Superior Court – an outrageous and indefensible act that could have completely upended a young person’s life,” McKee said.

A court staffer familiar with the situation told CNN that the situation began inside a courtroom, where ICE agents were taking photos of the high schooler.

Security reportedly asked the individual to stop taking photos of people inside the courtroom, which is when the individual identified themselves as an ICE agent.

It's unclear why the ICE agent was taking photos………

Anger after ICE agents seize high school intern, 16, at Rhode Island courthouse

An ICE agent was seen in the courthouse photographing the teen before the incident

www.independent.co.uk

 

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Immigration officers detained a student at a high school in Oregon during his lunch break on Friday, according to the student’s family.

Seventeen-year-old Christian Jimenez, a US citizen and senior at McMinnville high school, was driving his father’s vehicle around 12.30pm during lunch when agents from the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) stopped him, his older brother, Cesar Jimenez, told Oregon Live.

Despite telling the officers he was an American citizen, one of them broke the driver’s side window and detained him. In a video shared to the outlet by Cesar Jimenez, Christian can reportedly be heard asserting his citizenship while an officer responds “get out of the car” and “I don’t care.”


Christian Jimenez was taken to the ICE facility in south Portland and released shortly before 7pm the same day, his brother said. Cesar Jimenez added that authorities are now attempting to charge Christian with “interference or obstruction of investigation”.

McMinnville high school’s superintendent, Kourtney Ferrua, addressed the situation in a message to families, confirming that the student, who had been off campus for lunch, was detained by immigration agents but later identified as a US citizen and reunited with his family.

Ferrua emphasized that the school district does not allow anyone who does not have business in the school to enter during the day. She added that students are only released to adults who are approved to pick them up.…….

ICE detained teenaged US citizen during school lunch break, family says

Christian Jimenez, Oregon high school senior, faces possible obstruction charges after traffic stop by immigration agents

www.theguardian.com

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have infuriated Rhode Island’s governor, a senator, and its state Supreme Court chief justice after officers detained a high school statehouse intern on suspicion that they were an illegal immigrant.

Recordings of the incident show ICE agents detaining the teen, who was traveling from the statehouse to his school as part of an internship at the Rhode Island Superior Court. The teen was being driven to school by a judge when ICE agents intercepted them

Governor Dan McKee called the incident "indefensible" in a statement.

“ICE agents wrongfully detained a high school intern outside the Superior Court – an outrageous and indefensible act that could have completely upended a young person’s life,” McKee said.

A court staffer familiar with the situation told CNN that the situation began inside a courtroom, where ICE agents were taking photos of the high schooler.

Security reportedly asked the individual to stop taking photos of people inside the courtroom, which is when the individual identified themselves as an ICE agent.

It's unclear why the ICE agent was taking photos………

Anger after ICE agents seize high school intern, 16, at Rhode Island courthouse

An ICE agent was seen in the courthouse photographing the teen before the incident

www.independent.co.uk

maybe the trumpers think that the high school teenager works for the democratic party

 

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HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- A church safety director is under arrest after being accused of posing as an ICE agent to extort a woman for money.

Donald Doolittle, 58, is charged with impersonating a public servant. He's listed as safety director on the Gateway Community Church of Webster's website and noted he's worked at the church for 10 years in an affidavit filed with the court.

Eyewitness News has learned the victim of the alleged extortion plot is a massage therapist operating out of a northwest Houston office building.

Police say Doolittle booked and received a massage Thursday, but that problems arose when he went to pay.

Officers say Doolittle wanted to pay with a credit card, but that the victim told him she only accepts cash or Zelle payments.

At that point, police say Doolittle pulled out an ID card labelled 'ICE,' identified himself as an ICE agent and said he needed to see the victim's ID.

Police say she complied and showed him her temporary visa, but that he then demanded money.

"He demanded she Zelle him $500 or he would take her away and she would never see her family or children again," a magistrate said during Doolittle's probable cause hearing Saturday.

Zelle is a digital payment network that allows people to send and receive money between bank accounts.

After the victim sent Doolittle the money, police say he texted her that she wouldn't hear from any other ICE agents because he had marked her case for non-prosecution. He also allegedly asked her to delete the text messages.............

Church employee posed as ICE agent to extort victim for money, HPD says

A church safety director is under arrest after being accused of posing as an ICE agent to extort a woman for money.

abc13.com

 

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[MT15]

In Chicago DHS officers used tear gas indiscriminately, in residential neighborhoods and when there was no physical threat from protestors. They used it aggressively, to target people on public sidewalks, they threw it from vehicles. A homeowner and his wife were overcome in their home when they threw a tear gas canister on their front porch.

“A close review of the October 4 protests shows federal agents repeatedly using tear gas and pepper spray, often appearing to escalate encounters with nonviolent protesters. Videos and photos show agents tossing tear gas from moving vehicles and deploying gas and pepper balls with little or no warning, even when protesters and bystanders posed no visible physical threat. Tear gas has been linked to long-term health problems. Experts also warn that the aggressive tactics by federal agents can create dangerous confrontations and threaten the free speech of Chicagoans.”

Feds used tear gas dozens of times in Chicago - Chicago Reader

An investigation by reporters from six newsrooms found that agents used chemical irritants nearly 50 times during so-called Operation Midway Blitz.

chicagoreader.com

 

[MT15]

They are doing so to harass them and to intimidate other people from doing the same. They are very often released with zero charges. They should all sue for false arrest.

 

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Officers dragged a teacher out of daycare in front of children. Traumatized high schoolers were “beat up” by officers before they arrived homeroom. Thousands of students have been marked absent.

Donald Trump’s sweeping immigration enforcement operations have interrupted schools in communities across the country and put families, teachers and administrators on edge as they brace for agents showing up on campus.

Parents have also been arrested near schools in at least 10 states so far this year, according to a review of incidents from The Washington Post. School attendance plummeted in Chicago and Charlotte, North Carolina, in the days after the Trump administration surged Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection agents into the Democratic-led cities.

Immigration agents have also fired tear gas, joined car chases and shot at least one person in areas nearby schools, prompting campus lockdowns and alarm among students, their parents and school staff.

After taking office, the Trump administration abandoned previous policy to prevent enforcement operations near so-called “sensitive” areas such as school campuses. Homeland Security has repeatedly stressed that schools are not being targeted in the operations, but ICE and border patrol officers have been blitzing neighborhoods close enough to schools to derail schedules with fears that student enrollment will drop entirely, according to educators speaking to the newspaper.……….

The unintended consequences of Trump’s ICE raids: Empty classrooms

Thousands of students missed school during Trump’s mass deportation push as teachers and families brace for arrests

www.independent.co.uk

 

[MT15]

Officers dragged a teacher out of daycare in front of children. Traumatized high schoolers were “beat up” by officers before they arrived homeroom. Thousands of students have been marked absent.

Donald Trump’s sweeping immigration enforcement operations have interrupted schools in communities across the country and put families, teachers and administrators on edge as they brace for agents showing up on campus.

Parents have also been arrested near schools in at least 10 states so far this year, according to a review of incidents from The Washington Post. School attendance plummeted in Chicago and Charlotte, North Carolina, in the days after the Trump administration surged Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection agents into the Democratic-led cities.

Immigration agents have also fired tear gas, joined car chases and shot at least one person in areas nearby schools, prompting campus lockdowns and alarm among students, their parents and school staff.

After taking office, the Trump administration abandoned previous policy to prevent enforcement operations near so-called “sensitive” areas such as school campuses. Homeland Security has repeatedly stressed that schools are not being targeted in the operations, but ICE and border patrol officers have been blitzing neighborhoods close enough to schools to derail schedules with fears that student enrollment will drop entirely, according to educators speaking to the newspaper.……….

The unintended consequences of Trump’s ICE raids: Empty classrooms

Thousands of students missed school during Trump’s mass deportation push as teachers and families brace for arrests

www.independent.co.uk

I remember reading that they deployed tear gas so close to an elementary school that they had to make all the kids go inside as the gas wafted over the playground. This was in Chicago, IIRC.

 

[MT15]

Someone finally got to tour inside the Broadview detention facility. After months and months of requests for valid oversight. Which means they have probably cleared up the worst abuses. This building isn’t meant to house prisoners - doesn’t have that capability. But they are using it anyway.

 

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The Trump administration is moving to reinterview certain refugees who were admitted to the United States under former President Joe Biden as part of a comprehensive review of their cases, according to an internal memo and a source familiar with the plans.

The effort marks an unprecedented step in President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown — this time, targeting one of the world’s most vulnerable populations. Refugees must show that they were persecuted or face persecution in their home countries and undergo rigorous vetting prior to entering the United States in what is generally a yearslong process.

that the previous administration didn’t sufficiently vet the people who entered the US. Trump has largely halted refugee admissions, with the narrow exception of White South Africans.

US Citizenship and Immigration Services is expected to be charged with the review and reinterview process, according to the memo, dated November 21, citing an operational necessity to ensure refugees don’t pose a national security or public safety threat. Between fiscal year 2021 and fiscal year 2025, around 235,000 refugees entered the US after going through the admissions process.

CNN reached out to the Department of Homeland Security and the White House for comment. The State Department referred CNN to DHS.

For years, the US outpaced other countries in refugee admissions, allowing millions into the country since the Refugee Act of 1980. But the program took a hit during Trump’s first term when he slashed the number of refugees allowed to come to the US, and during the coronavirus pandemic, which resulted in a temporary suspension of resettlements. Biden tried to rebuild the program and eventually set an annual ceiling of 125,000 admissions................

Trump administration moves to reinterview refugees admitted to US under Biden | CNN Politics

The Trump administration is moving to reinterview certain refugees who were admitted to the United States under former President Joe Biden as part of a comprehensive review of their cases, according to an internal memo and a source familiar with the plans.

www.cnn.com

 

[MT15]

They cannot handle what they are doing now - people’s cases are taking years and years (which is somewhat how it’s always been) but they have fired a whole bunch of immigration judges. And the way they fired them has set cases back for years more because it wasn’t orderly. They didn’t allow the judges to finish the cases they already had, they just escorted them out. One judge was in the middle of a hearing when they walked in and took her out. So these cases have to basically go to the back of the line and start over. Meanwhile, they are holding people in horrible conditions, denying medical care, decent food and treating them worse than animals.

So how are they going to do this? Answer, they probably aren’t. They’re just going to go through the motions and deport them. Because this isn’t immigration policy - it’s mass deportation. It’s a purge and a crime against humanity.

 

[Sendai]

They cannot handle what they are doing now - people’s cases are taking years and years (which is somewhat how it’s always been) but they have fired a whole bunch of immigration judges. And the way they fired them has set cases back for years more because it wasn’t orderly. They didn’t allow the judges to finish the cases they already had, they just escorted them out. One judge was in the middle of a hearing when they walked in and took her out. So these cases have to basically go to the back of the line and start over. Meanwhile, they are holding people in horrible conditions, denying medical care, decent food and treating them worse than animals.

So how are they going to do this? Answer, they probably aren’t. They’re just going to go through the motions and deport them. Because this isn’t immigration policy - it’s mass deportation. It’s a purge and a crime against humanity.

The organization that handles this is USCIS. Applications for work visas, green cards, naturalization, asylum, refugee assistance.

It won’t be immigration judges.

 

[MT15]

The organization that handles this is USCIS. Applications for work visas, green cards, naturalization, asylum, refugee assistance.

It won’t be immigration judges.

You really are the “well, actually” guy, lol. This administration cannot do anything in a correct manner. Not anything. So it doesn’t really matter which part of the administration is doing this, it will be done in an immoral, and possibly illegal way.

 

[MT15]

Love this. Silence is consent.