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    It’s so repulsive to see people cheering for what is basically 80% the same thing as the Holocaust - different end result but otherwise very similar.

    Economists have said it would tank the economy and cause inflation - notwithstanding the cost.

    Is it going to actually happen or is this Build The Wall 2.0?

     
    There it is. When you see wholesale human rights violations and constitutional rights violations, there can be no BUTS. There just cannot. No one with any moral clarity at all excuses this, which is what you just did.

    What has this man done to be held in jail? Flight risk doesn’t cut it - as you so eagerly pointed out they informed him in late 2024 that they were going to possibly deport him. Yet he stayed on his job, comforting families in crisis at the hospital. He checked in faithfully and that is where they picked him up, if I am remembering correctly.

    The government is violating his constitutional rights. Full stop.
    Keep these guys talking and they inevitably let their real truth slip out.

    That's why I'm okay with engaging them, no matter how evasive or deceptive they are. It keeps them talking and they keep letting their truth slip out.

    Snarky denials soon to follow.
     
    Remember that prisoner swap that one poster here thought was so “interesting”?

    Summary for those who can’t watch: one of the men released into the US was a man convicted of killing 3 people. He holds dual US and Venezuelan citizenship and killed 3 innocent people trying to kill a man he suspected of having an affair with his wife. Serving a 30 year sentence In Venezuela, he was released in the prisoner swap into the US and promptly has disappeared. Nobody knows where he is. Evidently nobody in the State Dept vetted who was being released or they didn’t care.

     
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    Sounds about right
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    Rep. Nancy Mace admitted that one of her “favorite” things to watch on YouTube is videos of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents dragging people from court and detaining them for deportation.

    The South Carolina congresswoman shared the revelation as she railed against sanctuary cities on Fox News, as she hailed the administration’saggressive anti-immigration tactics.

    “I have to tell you, one of my favorite things to watch on YouTube these days are the court hearings where illegals are in court and ICE shows up to drag them out of court and deport them,” Mace said Sunday on Fox Report with Jon Scott.

    “I can think of nothing more American today than keeping our streets safer by getting those violent criminals out of the United States of America, and we all have Donald J. Trump to thank for it,” Mace added, as she branded the president as “the new sheriff in town.”………..




     
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    Three Venezuelan men told NBC News they experienced physical and psychological torture, including one man’s allegation that he was sexually assaulted, after the Trump administration sent them to a notorious prison in El Salvador.

    The men were held for four months in the Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, a Salvadoran megaprison known for its harsh conditions and reported abuse. The allegations included beatings that left bruises and cuts, psychological abuse and the denial of necessities such as food or bathroom access.

    The Trump administration sent about 250 Venezuelan men to CECOT in March and has accused them of being members of the Tren de Aragua gang. Many of the men and some of their families and attorneys have denied the claim. The men were released and flown to Venezuela on July 18 as part of a prisoner swap with the United States.

    Andry Hernandez Romero, a 32-year-old gay asylum-seeker from Venezuela, told NBC News that one day during his imprisonment he was taken to solitary confinement, where prison staff “made me kneel, perform oral sex on one person, while the others groped me and touched my private parts” and “stroked me with their batons.”

    He said he could not identify the guards because their faces were covered and the room did not have a lightbulb, with only a small amount of light coming in through a hole in the ceiling.

    Hernandez said the incident left him devastated.……

     
    Donald Trump’s crackdown on immigration is piling pressure on US factories, according to employees and union leaders, as veteran workers from overseas are forced to leave their jobs.

    As economists warn the administration’s full-scale deportation ambitions could ultimately cost millions of jobs, workers at two sites – in Michigan and Kentucky – told the Guardian that industrial giants are grappling with labor shortages.

    The US president has moved to strip more than a million immigrants of their legal status in the US, including by shutting down the Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, Venezuelans (CHNV) Parole Program, which allowed hundreds of thousands to work legally in the country. It has meanwhile ramped up immigration arrest operations with prospective daily quotas of 3,000 arrests per day.


    Such moves have piled pressure on industries across the US economy – including the food, hospitality, construction, transportation and care sectors – which rely on large numbers of migrants to do essential work.

    At a GE Appliances plant in Louisville, Kentucky, more than 125 workers were abruptly forced out of their jobs in the spring due to programs cancelled as part of Trump’s immigration crackdown, according to an employee. GE Appliances makes home appliances including refrigerators, microwaves and dishwashers.

    “In three different buildings, on a couple of different shifts, stewards reported that they lost production so they weren’t able to make all the products they were supposed to make,” said Jess Reese, a replacement operator at the plant and organizer for IUE-CWA Local 83761. “It was hard to cover certain job tasks on the assembly line, and so that created chaos, and it was just hard to get things done.”

    Reese expressed concern about the threat of more workers being forced out. Trump’s efforts to revoke protected status for Haiti could impact an additional 200 union members next February, she said. “Hundreds of workers kind of disappearing at the drop of a hat is no joke, as we’ve seen with the last wave of mass terminations.”

    A spokesperson for GE Appliances said: “We added additional staffing where needed and continue to follow the law.”

    At a Kraft-Heinz plant in Holland, Michigan, meanwhile, workers are said to have been mandated to work overtime. The firm is one of the largest food and beverage companies in the world, behind brands including Philadelphia cream cheese and Jell-O deserts.


    “We had people there for 20 years, and all of a sudden they get notification their immigration authorization is revoked,” Tomas Torres, a maintenance mechanic of 13 years, and president of RWDSU Local 705. “And they can’t be there anymore, and that just puts a strain on everybody,.

    “The lack of people on the lines. There are employees running two machines; it should be one person per machine. Manager and supervisors are all stressed out, and cancelling vacations for people because they don’t have enough to run the machines.”

    Torres has been working 12- to 14-hour days, he said: part of a first shift, all of a second shift, and part of a third shift.

    “I’m tired. And you catch people falling asleep on the line, and it’s a big safety issue,” he added. “All of this that has happened has affected everybody at the plant. It’s crazy, because I hear people complain every single day.”………

     
    I've asked this question of a few supporters of ICE and the President's actions, and they can't really answer, and always try to change the topic.

    Why should we treat undocumented immigrants any worse than speeders? It's roughly the same "level" of violation of law (civil and traffic, not criminal). Speeding causes billions of dollars of damages every year and about 12000 deaths - far more than "illegal" immigration. But we handle speeding with a ticket, a fine and be on your way... no detention centers, grabbing them off streets, etc. I'd be curious if anyone here can articulate why we need to treat undocumented immigrants worse than speeders.
     
    “the reason why most of the people we’re kidnapping don’t have criminal records is because they’re all sleeper agents.” Wtf


    They should stop purseyfooting around and just start openly referring to anyone without white skin as "untermensch" or "mud people."
     
    I've asked this question of a few supporters of ICE and the President's actions, and they can't really answer, and always try to change the topic.

    Why should we treat undocumented immigrants any worse than speeders? It's roughly the same "level" of violation of law (civil and traffic, not criminal). Speeding causes billions of dollars of damages every year and about 12000 deaths - far more than "illegal" immigration. But we handle speeding with a ticket, a fine and be on your way... no detention centers, grabbing them off streets, etc. I'd be curious if anyone here can articulate why we need to treat undocumented immigrants worse than speeders.
    Sendai, Joe - you’re up. What say you?
     

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