What happens to the Republican Party now? (1 Viewer)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[Optimus Prime]

the thing is its not always parents ifs stooges that are doing the bidding of the far right often they dont even have kids in that school district. The proud boys have been doing this a lot.

Sometimes they not only don’t have kids in the school district they don’t have kids at all

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Sometimes they not only don’t have kids in the school district they don’t have kids at all

Thankfully.

 

[bird]

Sometimes they not only don’t have kids in the school district they don’t have kids at all

Like some of the people screeching about books they want removed.

 

[MT15]

These GOPers are totally out of control. They have zero ethics, zero morals, zero integrity. Everyone should vote against the GOP in every race until they get the point that they are not kings or autocrats. They don’t get to take our money and benefit themselves. This makes my blood boil:

 

[MT15]

So, I didn’t realize that conservatives have actually codified their views that democracy doesn’t work and that they must seize power by any means necessary - they are openly advocating an overthrow of our system of government. Read this short essay if you want to be depressed:

The Authoritarian Code-Phrase ‘Do You Know What Time It Is?’ — New York Magazine

The sinister implications of a piece of jargon.

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ETA: when I posted this I was short on time to expand. There is a group of authoritative conservatives who are solidly behind Trump who have put into writing that they feel they must seize power by any means necessary as soon as possible. If Trump wins they will put their plan into motion. Trump won’t care as long as he is allowed to profit from the presidency as he did before. This group even thinks the Federalist Society is too weak and won’t go far enough. They are no less dangerous than the Taliban or any other radical group. It’s depressing.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

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[MT15]

So, I didn’t realize that conservatives have actually codified their views that democracy doesn’t work and that they must seize power by any means necessary - they are openly advocating an overthrow of our system of government. Read this short essay if you want to be depressed:

The Authoritarian Code-Phrase ‘Do You Know What Time It Is?’ — New York Magazine

The sinister implications of a piece of jargon.

apple.news

ETA: when I posted this I was short on time to expand. There is a group of authoritative conservatives who are solidly behind Trump who have put into writing that they feel they must seize power by any means necessary as soon as possible. If Trump wins they will put their plan into motion. Trump won’t care as long as he is allowed to profit from the presidency as he did before. This group even thinks the Federalist Society is too weak and won’t go far enough. They are no less dangerous than the Taliban or any other radical group. It’s depressing.

 

[MT15]

I don’t want to believe this, but there’s a chance that it’s true:

 

[Dragon]

That was obvious a month ago. Thats why I wrote that the Democratic majority in the senate better get busy and even use weekends if necessary

 

[MT15]

That was obvious a month ago. Thats why I wrote that the Democratic majority in the senate better get busy and even use weekends if necessary

The Rs actually tried to do a bunch late last week, individually. They had about 70 teed up and ready to go. Tuberville objected to almost all of them, even though he has said in the past that he wouldn’t do that. I think they ended up getting about 10 or so done.

 

[coldseat]

The Rs actually tried to do a bunch late last week, individually. They had about 70 teed up and ready to go. Tuberville objected to almost all of them, even though he has said in the past that he wouldn’t do that. I think they ended up getting about 10 or so done.

They need to change the rules. This is beyond destructive and stupid. We're going to let one jackass take down the whole military from within?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Tommy Tuberville plays the fool with such conviction that he makes it difficult to imagine a motive behind his idiocy. He is really, truly, actually not acting.

In ordinary times others might qualify as the stupidest member of the Senate, but none have matched his performance at a moment of profound and precarious international crisis.

Tuberville’s freeze on promotions of general staff officers unless the federal government denies reproductive health services – abortions – to women in the military has significantly disrupted readiness, upended the chain of command and otherwise endangered national security.

Of 852 general and flag officers, he has placed 387 holds so far. By the end of the year, 90% of generals and admirals will be out of position. The chief of naval operations, Admiral Lisa Franchetti, says it will take two or three years to fix. One hundred and twenty officers are now being forced to perform two jobs.

When General Eric Smith, the commandant of the Marine Corps, who was performing several jobs at once, suffered a heart attack, Tuberville cavalierly dismissed any responsibility. “Come on, give me a break. This guy is going to work 18-20 hours a day no matter what. That’s what we do. I did that for years,” he said.

Tuberville was a football coach before he was elected the senator from Alabama. Denigrating the marine commandant, Tuberville suggested that coaching a game was as hard as running the Marine Corps. “Coach” is his identity. “Email Coach” reads the contact information on his Senate website……

But Tuberville’s gain is more than the military’s defeat; it is the Republican party’s loss, at both ends of Tuberville’s play. He is wilfully and enthusiastically hammering national security while inflaming the abortion issue. Since the Dobbs decision Republicans have been desperately seeking to escape the political consequences of their decades-long crusade culminating in the supreme court decision overturning Roe v Wade. Tuberville has contrived a unique formula to wage the culture war by undermining the military, or, more likely, had that formula engineered for him.

Idiots can still be useful idiots. There are larger purposes involved in his scam kulturkampf. His subversion of the military is not just collateral damage. It is not the unintended consequence, but the overriding motive. His abortion ban is both context and pretext.

Tuberville has opened Trump’s strategy for a second term to replace the professional class of officers pledged to the constitution with a collection of flunkies who will salute his command, legal or not. Tuberville is a blunt instrument, but, however crude, he is the available tool.…..

Tommy Tuberville is not acting: he really is Trump’s useful idiot | Sidney Blumenthal

Tuberville is performing Trump’s retribution against a military he believes confounded his coup – and is preparing the groundwork for his takeover in 2025

www.theguardian.com

 

[DaveXA]

Tommy Tuberville plays the fool with such conviction that he makes it difficult to imagine a motive behind his idiocy. He is really, truly, actually not acting.

In ordinary times others might qualify as the stupidest member of the Senate, but none have matched his performance at a moment of profound and precarious international crisis.

Tuberville’s freeze on promotions of general staff officers unless the federal government denies reproductive health services – abortions – to women in the military has significantly disrupted readiness, upended the chain of command and otherwise endangered national security.

Of 852 general and flag officers, he has placed 387 holds so far. By the end of the year, 90% of generals and admirals will be out of position. The chief of naval operations, Admiral Lisa Franchetti, says it will take two or three years to fix. One hundred and twenty officers are now being forced to perform two jobs.

When General Eric Smith, the commandant of the Marine Corps, who was performing several jobs at once, suffered a heart attack, Tuberville cavalierly dismissed any responsibility. “Come on, give me a break. This guy is going to work 18-20 hours a day no matter what. That’s what we do. I did that for years,” he said.

Tuberville was a football coach before he was elected the senator from Alabama. Denigrating the marine commandant, Tuberville suggested that coaching a game was as hard as running the Marine Corps. “Coach” is his identity. “Email Coach” reads the contact information on his Senate website……

But Tuberville’s gain is more than the military’s defeat; it is the Republican party’s loss, at both ends of Tuberville’s play. He is wilfully and enthusiastically hammering national security while inflaming the abortion issue. Since the Dobbs decision Republicans have been desperately seeking to escape the political consequences of their decades-long crusade culminating in the supreme court decision overturning Roe v Wade. Tuberville has contrived a unique formula to wage the culture war by undermining the military, or, more likely, had that formula engineered for him.

Idiots can still be useful idiots. There are larger purposes involved in his scam kulturkampf. His subversion of the military is not just collateral damage. It is not the unintended consequence, but the overriding motive. His abortion ban is both context and pretext.

Tuberville has opened Trump’s strategy for a second term to replace the professional class of officers pledged to the constitution with a collection of flunkies who will salute his command, legal or not. Tuberville is a blunt instrument, but, however crude, he is the available tool.…..

Tommy Tuberville is not acting: he really is Trump’s useful idiot | Sidney Blumenthal

Tuberville is performing Trump’s retribution against a military he believes confounded his coup – and is preparing the groundwork for his takeover in 2025

www.theguardian.com

I still think this guy needs to step in front of a bus or something. He's literally a threat to national security. If ever there was someone who deserved to be thrown out of Congress for treason, it's this idiot.

 

[MT15]

I just read there is now bipartisan support for changing the rules, at least temporarily. Didn’t save it though.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

I still think this guy needs to step in front of a bus or something. He's literally a threat to national security. If ever there was someone who deserved to be thrown out of Congress for treason, it's this idiot.

watch out, he's gonna accuse you of wanting him assassinated..

 

[DaveXA]

watch out, he's gonna accuse you of wanting him assassinated..

Lol, of course he would.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

So McConnell acolyte and state attorney general is going to lose the governor's election to a Democrat. Can probably come up with a few reasons why...

 

[MT15]

VA House does indeed look like it will flip. Way to go Youngkin