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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    Saint by the Bay said:
    It’s why I say we are in the waning days of the American experiment. What we are proving is that democracy can’t really survive the majority demographic becoming a minority. Too many of them won’t allow it. They’ll burn the whole place down first.
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    Indeed. Some people would call this alarmist talk, but the reality is democracy is a relative blip in human history. And the U.S. has a uniquely bizarre and inflexible form of government/representation when compared to nearly every other Western democracy. The parliamentarian system is superior to what we have here in America.
     
    apnews.com

    Republicans promote pandemic relief they voted against

    Every Republican in Congress voted against the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan, which President Joe Biden signed into law three months ago.
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    Rep. Nicole Malliotakis, R-N.Y., said it pained her to vote against the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan.

    But in the weeks that followed, the first-term Republican issued a news release celebrating more than $3.7 million from the package that went to community health centers in her district as one of her “achievements.” She said she prided herself on “bringing federal funding to the district and back into the pockets of taxpayers.”

    Malliotakis is far from alone.

    Every Republican in Congress voted against the sweeping pandemic relief bill that President Joe Biden signed into law three months ago. But since the early spring votes, Republicans from New York and Indiana to Texas and Washington state have promoted elements of the legislation they fought to defeat.
     
    A look inside Flounder's and Q-uaren's "'Murica First' clown show...
     
    I am curious as to which party will step up to own the mantle of conservativism, now that the GOP has become more or less a cult of personality.
     
    From the Washington Post
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    The greatest threat to our nation’s future is not covid-19 or the rise of China or even the existential challenge of climate change. It is the Republican Party’s attempt to seize and hold power by offering voters the seductive choice of rejecting inconvenient facts and basic logic.


    For the American experiment and people to survive, much less prosper, this iteration of the GOP must fail.


    The blind-loyalty-even-to-dishonest-insanity Republican litmus test that is about to cost Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) her leadership job is only the most acute manifestation of the party’s decline into utter irresponsibility.

    It’s bad enough that those who want to remain in good standing must embrace the “big lie” about purported fraud in the 2020 election. But the requirement doesn’t stop there. On issue after issue, Republicans are cynically adopting a kind of pre-Enlightenment insistence on the primacy of belief over evidence.


    If some voters want to believe that covid-19 is somehow being overblown by the world’s leading experts in infectious disease, then it becomes mandatory for GOP governors — ambitious ones, at least — to reopen their state economies, no matter the cost in needless illness and death.

    If some voters want to believe that systemic racism does not exist, then it becomes mandatory for Republicans to declare, as Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.) did, that “America is not a racist country.”

    If some voters want to believe that poverty is a choice made by lazy people, then it becomes mandatory for GOP to try to force the poor back to work by slashing unemployment benefits.

    There is, of course, often a huge difference between what one might want to believe and what is actually true. Genuine leadership sometimes requires telling people what they don’t want to hear.

    But the Republican Party no longer even pretends to want to lead. What it wants instead is to obtain power...........

     
    A rarity - A short Atlantic article

    From a few months ago
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    We are living in a time of bad metaphors. Everything is fascism, or socialism; Hitler’s Germany, or Stalin’s Soviet Union. Republicans, especially, want their followers to believe that America is on the verge of a dramatic time, a moment of great conflict such as 1968—or perhaps, even worse, 1860. (The drama is the point, of course. No one ever says, “We’re living through 1955.”)

    Ironically, the GOP is indeed replicating another political party in another time, but not as the heroes they imagine themselves to be. The Republican Party has become, in form if not in content, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of the late 1970s.

    I can already hear the howls about invidious comparisons. I do not mean that modern American Republicans are communists. Rather, I mean that the Republicans have entered their own kind of end-stage Bolshevism, as members of a party that is now exhausted by its failures, cynical about its own ideology, authoritarian by reflex, controlled as a personality cult by a failing old man, and looking for new adventures to rejuvenate its fortunes.

    No one thinks much about the Soviet Union in the late 1970s, and no one really should. This was a time referred to by the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, as the vremia zastoia—“the era of stagnation.” By that point, the Soviet Communist Party was a spent force, and ideological conviction was mostly for chumps and fanatics. A handful of party ideologues and the senior officers of the Soviet military might still have believed in “Marxism-Leninism”—the melding of aspirational communism to one-party dictatorship—but by and large, Soviet citizens knew that the party’s formulations about the rights of all people were just window dressing for rule by a small circle of old men in the Kremlin.........

    Members of the Communist Party who questioned anything, or expressed any sign of unorthodoxy, could be denounced by name, or more likely, simply fired. They would not be executed—this was not Stalinism, after all—but some were left to rot in obscurity in some make-work exile job, eventually retiring as a forgotten “Comrade Pensioner.” The deal was clear: Pump the party’s nonsense and enjoy the good life, or squawk and be sent to manage a library in Kazakhstan.

    This should all sound familiar.

    The Republican Party has, for years, ignored the ideas and principles it once espoused, to the point where the 2020 GOP convention simply dispensed with the fiction of a platform and instead declared the party to be whatever Comrade—excuse me, President—Donald Trump said it was...........

    www.theatlantic.com

    The Republican Party Is Now in Its End Stages

    The GOP has become, in form if not in content, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of the late 1970s.
    www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
     
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    I liked this sentence from the article in your prior post: "if the Republicans could create the rank of 'Marshal of the American Republic' and strike a medal for a 'Hero of American Culture,' Trump would have them both by now."

    Then I read the Ohio GOP resolution in your next post which stated that Gonzales misplaced blame [for the insurrection] on "President Trump, the President of Law and Order and America First" -- capitalizations and all (not "former" president, either).

    The comparisons of the current GOP to 20th century personality cults are frightening, but I'm not sure what else to conclude. I don't think that's an overreaction in terms of the potential threat they pose to democracy given how they're handling their current existential crisis. Does anyone, including people who've considered themselves Republicans / conservatives, see it differently?
     
    What a forking weird and almost childish way of doing this

    misplaced blame [for the insurrection] on "President Trump" - End sentence. you made your point

    But this - President Trump, the President of Law and Order and America First" Really?!

    Why stop there? - President Trump, the President of Law and Order and America First, pinnacle of all men and savior of 'true' Americans, scourge of losers and snowflakes, genesis of liberal tears, defender of righteousness, hero of patriots, liberator of truth

    Now that's a sentence I can take seriously in an official document
     
    Op-Ed from Jeff Flake
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    The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.” — George Orwell


    Near the beginning of the document that made us free, our Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson wrote: “We hold these truths to be self-evident.”


    There you have it. From the very beginning of America, our freedom has been predicated on truth. For without a principled fidelity to truth and to shared facts, our democracy will not last.


    On Wednesday, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) will most likely lose her leadership post within the House Republican Conference, not because she has been untruthful.

    Rather, she will lose her position because she is refusing to play her assigned role in propagating the “big lie” that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump. Cheney is more dedicated to the long-term health of our constitutional system than she is to assuaging the former president’s shattered ego, and for her integrity she may well pay with her career.


    No, this is not the plot of a movie set in an asylum. Ladies and gentlemen, this is your contemporary Republican Party, where today there is no greater offense than honesty......

     

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