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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    MT15 said:
    They aren’t serious people. Insurance companies are leaving Florida, and this is the response?

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    They are a business under Capitalism, they have to make money, but not just some money, A LOT of money. The State will have to step in, and it will be another nudge towards the socialist society that a Capitalist economy can’t mantain.
     
    MT15 said:
    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



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    The GOP destroyed themselves when they invested* in the biggest mentally Ill, corrupt Peice of work the country has known in our lifetime.

    *To Clarify: Their party was taken over by Tea Party/MAGA and the traditional Republicans instead of saying fork YOU!! they turned themselves inside out to become acceptably deviant to Master, the new blood sucker in charge. :oops:
     
    This guy is a freshman Congressman from NC. He does some pretty great videos explaining the way things work in Congress from a newby perspective. He had a wonderful way of speaking plainly.

     
    The Republicans headache is all of their own making, yet none of them take responsibility. They have a whole media empire dedicated to conspiracies, tearing down government and labeling everything Democrats do as evil. They repeat this nonsense in their churches and become further untethered from reality. Republican leaders have had copious opportunities to speak out against this created untethered reality and the actors pushing it, but have chosen to either participate along or close their ears and mouths. Republican's deserve this!

    If it wasn't because it would take down the whole country and me and my family with it, I would be more than content to let them suffer the consequences of their own creation.

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    Republican senators say they’re worried that conservative populism, though always a part of the GOP, is beginning to take over the party, becoming more radical and threatening to cause them significant political problems heading into the 2024 election.

    GOP senators are saying they’re being increasingly confronted by constituents who buy into discredited conspiracy theories such as the claim that Democrats stole the 2020 presidential election or that federal agents incited the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    Growing distrust with government institutions, from the FBI, CIA and Department of Justice to the Centers for Disease Control and National Institutes of Health, make it more difficult for Republican lawmakers to govern.

    .........

    “We should be concerned about this as Republicans. I’m having more ‘rational Republicans’ coming up to me and saying, ‘I just don’t know how long I can stay in this party,’” said Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska). “Now our party is becoming known as a group of kind of extremist, populist over-the-top [people] where no one is taking us seriously anymore.

    “You have people who felt some allegiance to the party that are now really questioning, ‘Why am I [in the party?]” she added. “I think it’s going to get even more interesting as we move closer to the elections and we start going through some of these primary debates.

    “Is it going to be a situation of who can be more outlandish than the other?” she asked.

    Some Senate Republicans worry the populist winds are downgrading their chances of picking up seats in 2024.

    “There are an astonishing number of people in my state who believe the election was stolen,” said one Republican senator who requested anonymity to talk about the growing popularity of conservative conspiracy theories at home.

    ............

    One senior Senate Republican strategist, assessing the race, lamented that “the Republican Party in Arizona is a mess.”

    Republican senators say they are alarmed at how many Republicans, including those with higher levels of education and income, buy the unsubstantiated claims that the last presidential election was stolen.

    A second Republican senator who spoke with The Hill said the growing strength of radical populism “makes it a lot more difficult to govern, it makes it difficult to talk to constituents.”


    “There are people who surprise me — I’m surprised they have those views. It’s amazing to me the number of people, the kind of people who think the election was stolen,” the lawmaker said. “I don’t want to use this word but it’s not just a ‘red-neck’ thing. It’s people in business, the president of a bank, a doctor.”

    The lawmaker, who requested anonymity to discuss the political challenge posted by surging conservative populism, accused some fellow Republicans of trying to exploit voter discontent to gain local or national prominence.
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    thehill.com

    GOP senators rattled by radical conservative populism

    Republican senators say they’re worried that conservative populism, though always a part of the GOP, is beginning to take over the party, becoming more radical and threatening to cause them signifi…
    thehill.com thehill.com
     
    coldseat said:
    The Republicans headache is all of their own making, yet none of them take responsibility. They have a whole media empire dedicated to conspiracies, tearing down government and labeling everything Democrats do as evil. They repeat this nonsense in their churches and become further untethered from reality. Republican leaders have had copious opportunities to speak out against this created untethered reality and the actors pushing it, but have chosen to either participate along or close their ears and mouths. Republican's deserve this!

    If it wasn't because it would take down the whole country and me and my family with it, I would be more than content to let them suffer the consequences of their own creation.

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    Republican senators say they’re worried that conservative populism, though always a part of the GOP, is beginning to take over the party, becoming more radical and threatening to cause them significant political problems heading into the 2024 election.

    GOP senators are saying they’re being increasingly confronted by constituents who buy into discredited conspiracy theories such as the claim that Democrats stole the 2020 presidential election or that federal agents incited the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    Growing distrust with government institutions, from the FBI, CIA and Department of Justice to the Centers for Disease Control and National Institutes of Health, make it more difficult for Republican lawmakers to govern.

    .........

    “We should be concerned about this as Republicans. I’m having more ‘rational Republicans’ coming up to me and saying, ‘I just don’t know how long I can stay in this party,’” said Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska). “Now our party is becoming known as a group of kind of extremist, populist over-the-top [people] where no one is taking us seriously anymore.

    “You have people who felt some allegiance to the party that are now really questioning, ‘Why am I [in the party?]” she added. “I think it’s going to get even more interesting as we move closer to the elections and we start going through some of these primary debates.

    “Is it going to be a situation of who can be more outlandish than the other?” she asked.

    Some Senate Republicans worry the populist winds are downgrading their chances of picking up seats in 2024.

    “There are an astonishing number of people in my state who believe the election was stolen,” said one Republican senator who requested anonymity to talk about the growing popularity of conservative conspiracy theories at home.

    ............

    One senior Senate Republican strategist, assessing the race, lamented that “the Republican Party in Arizona is a mess.”

    Republican senators say they are alarmed at how many Republicans, including those with higher levels of education and income, buy the unsubstantiated claims that the last presidential election was stolen.

    A second Republican senator who spoke with The Hill said the growing strength of radical populism “makes it a lot more difficult to govern, it makes it difficult to talk to constituents.”


    “There are people who surprise me — I’m surprised they have those views. It’s amazing to me the number of people, the kind of people who think the election was stolen,” the lawmaker said. “I don’t want to use this word but it’s not just a ‘red-neck’ thing. It’s people in business, the president of a bank, a doctor.”

    The lawmaker, who requested anonymity to discuss the political challenge posted by surging conservative populism, accused some fellow Republicans of trying to exploit voter discontent to gain local or national prominence.
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    thehill.com

    GOP senators rattled by radical conservative populism

    Republican senators say they’re worried that conservative populism, though always a part of the GOP, is beginning to take over the party, becoming more radical and threatening to cause them signifi…
    thehill.com thehill.com
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    Yep, this was pretty much inevitable. And it's because the party has been really slow to push back because they worry more about keeping those votes than keeping their integrity.

    It's a result of the win at all costs mentality of many in the party.
     
    Thought this was an interesting interview
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    ..............Trump and other right-wing demagogues and neofascists repeatedly use hatred, violence, and conspiracy theories as a feature of their communications style and other messaging. Why do these strategies work?

    What makes their appeals effective, in my view, is the fact that their discourses are coded with meaning below the threshold of consciousness, where the belief system can be manipulated for ideological purposes. An example is the age-old idea that there is a cabal behind the scenes that is controlling the world. So, the populist leader emerges as the one who will defeat the cabal, called the "deep state", made up of the usual suspects (such as liberals). Using such coded language reinforces the mind control that autocrats aim to exercise. Calling a group "animals" or "parasites", over and over, eventually becomes part of the belief system, and accepted as true, as the work of Berkeley cognitive scientist George Lakoff has shown consistently.

    Metaphors are powerful because they "switch on" existing circuits in the brain by linking together salient images and ideas, as for example linking a certain group to pests. The more these circuits are activated the more hardwired they become. Research shows that people under the influence of "big lies" develop more rigid neural pathways, showing signs of difficulty in rethinking situations. As it is almost impossible to turn the switch off, this means that when we accept a big lie or a conspiracy theory, it can reshape our perception of reality without us being aware of it. By being exposed to hate metaphors, for instance, we may develop hostile feelings towards specific groups. After a while the negative image of the group metamorphizes in the imagination into that of a parasitic organism that lives at the other's expense. It was a powerful nefarious strategy that the Nazis used constantly in their antisemitic propaganda.

    Donald Trump has what former CIA profiler Jerrold Post described in a conversation with me as "dark charisma". His description of Trump and the danger he represented to the nation – which was proven by Jan. 6 — was chilling and prophetic. In terms of cognition and language, how does such "dark charisma" work in terms of the leader-follower relationship? For explaining the cult leader-like power and charm of Trump and other such dangerous leaders over their followers?

    The charisma of the populist leader comes, in my view, from his ability to use language to captivate people's minds. The charismatic leader is a master wordsmith, who is able to wreak moral chaos on the polity through his deceitful use of words to create a mind fog that obscures reality and produces its own illusory world. He does this through a constant mind-numbing repetition of the same metaphors, slogans, clichés, and catchwords. In literary circles, speech based on clichés or repetitive formulas is discouraged and considered to be anathema to good style. Trump's discourse is the exact opposite of this style. This is intentional. He uses it as an antidote to the politically correct speech of the élite (academics, liberal politicians, Democrats, and so on); it is his language of the "revolution." As such, he is perceived as the charismatic leader who will take the nation out of the fog and back into the light—to use common metaphors that follow him around.

    This type of speech is not an invention by Trump; it has always been the style adopted by despots to affect the polity. Mussolini, for example, confounded everyone when he came onto the political scene with his earthy language, setting himself apart from the intelligentsia of his era, tapping into people's fears and concerns that the intellectuals were self-serving, looking down on everyone who did not talk like them. He founded Fascism as an "anti-party" just after World War I. Like Trump, he was seen as a charismatic outsider who came forward to drain Italy's political and social swamp. He was a disrupter of the status quo, challenging the traditional politics of the nation and aiming to restore Italy to it great past...............


     
    Speaking of MTG, she gave Biden this nugget.. lol..
    Biden Releases Video of Marjorie Taylor Green’s ‘Turning Point USA’ Speech as an Ad for Himself

    MSN

    www.msn.com
     

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