What happens to the Republican Party now? (1 Viewer)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

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He needs to take his message further! He needs to call out the extremist in his party and stop demonizing the opposition and have a honest debate about their differences instead of the multiple fabricated boogeymen.

 

[DaveXA]

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He needs to take his message further! He needs to call out the extremist in his party and stop demonizing the opposition and have a honest debate about their differences instead of the multiple fabricated boogeymen.

Yeah, he's got a real dilemma. He's gotta knock Trump without losing too much of the rest of the Republican base. So he's gonna keep up some of the other Republican talking points on other issues because most of the party is so far into the weeds. That's a tall order.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Yeah, he's got a real dilemma. He's gotta knock Trump without losing too much of the rest of the Republican base. So he's gonna keep up some of the other Republican talking points on other issues because most of the party is so far into the weeds. That's a tall order.

Hell, he doesn't stand a chance to win with this current Republican Party. I'm hoping that he could be a start of a larger contingent of non-radicals that would make the party an inhospitable place for Republican extremist instead of their sanctuary.

 

[DaveXA]

Hell, he doesn't stand a chance to win with this current Republican Party. I'm hoping that he could be a start of a larger contingent of non-radicals that would make the party an inhospitable place for Republican extremist instead of their sanctuary.

Yep.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I wonder how much of Christie’s anti trump talk is genuine vs spurned sour grapes

If I remember he was a pretty early Trump cheerleader and seemed he thought it would lead to a high profile position in the administration

 

[DaveXA]

I wonder how much of Christie’s anti trump talk is genuine vs spurned sour grapes

If I remember he was a pretty early Trump cheerleader and seemed he thought it would lead to a high profile position in the administration

He was allegedly offered several positions with the Trump admin and turned them down for whatever reason. So, idk.

 

[Optimus Prime]

He was allegedly offered several positions with the Trump admin and turned them down for whatever reason. So, idk.

Didn’t know that

 

[UriUT]

Didn’t know that

If I remembered correctly, Kushner blocked Christie from a few positions, in particularly, the Attorney General, because he convicted his father. And I suspect Christie’s mood towards Trump changed when Trump’s only concern while Christie laid in his icu bed from Covid was if Christie would blame him for Covid. Remember this was after he helped Trump with his debate prep and didn’t tell Christie nor the debate organizers he was Covid positive. Trump is just a Peice of work all around.

 

[DaveXA]

If I remembered correctly, Kushner blocked Christie from a few positions, in particularly, the Attorney General, because he convicted his father. And I suspect Christie’s mood towards Trump changed when Trump’s only concern while Christie laid in his icu bed from Covid was if Christie would blame him for Covid. Remember this was after he helped Trump with his debate prep and didn’t tell Christie nor the debate organizers he was Covid positive. Trump is just a Peice of work all around.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

 

[Optimus Prime]

An influential group of 28 Republican attorneys general has benefited mightily from at least $9.5m since 2020 from the dark-money Concord Fund, public records reveal.

The Concord Fund, the top donor in 2022 and the two prior years to the Republican Attorneys General Association (Raga), boasts strong links to Federalist Society co-chairman Leonard Leo.

Leo helped Donald Trump pick three conservative supreme court justices and now helps spearhead a dark money network that has secured $1.6bn from a single donor.

Since its founding in 1999, Raga has raised and spent tens of millions of dollars to help elect GOP attorneys general – including many who have mounted corporate-friendly lawsuits – but has come under fire from watchdog groups and other critics of the growing role of dark money and special interest industry funding. Many Raga members have waged legal fights against climate change rules and other business regulations.

Other leading donors to Raga in 2022 include an arm of the US Chamber of Commerce, energy giant Koch Industries, and tobacco behemoth Altria, according to the liberal research group the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD).

Raga members have been criticised as a “pay-to-play” operation for filing lawsuits in support of business interests that help fund the attorneys general group, including fossil-fuel companies opposing climate-change rules. Further, Raga sparked strong concerns during Trump’s fight to block Joe Biden from taking office when an affiliate, the Rule of Law Defense Fund, spent $150,000 on robocalls to boost attendance at Trump’s January 6 rally. Those robocalls urged “patriots” to attend the rally and said: “We will march to the Capitol building and call on Congress to stop the steal.”

Prior to the Trump rally, in late 2020, Texas attorney general Ken Paxton filed an emergency motion with the supreme court backed by 17 Raga attorneys general to overturn Joe Biden’s wins in four states, a legal stratagem that the high court quickly dismissed.……

US dark-money fund spends millions to back Republican attorneys general

Concord Fund, linked to Federalist Society co-chair Leonard Leo, a lavish supporter of Republican Attorneys General Association

www.theguardian.com

 

[Snarky Sack]

Nope, we discussed that case thoroughly. You are not characterizing what happened honestly, probably because you read about it on a right wing extremist site. So you can just give up trying to spread the lies told about that incident.

I'm sure that the consensus you developed would be very comforting to the two young rape victims.

If only you could attended their rape survivors group or their therapy sessions to explain it to them.

 

[MT15]

I'm sure that the consensus you developed would be very comforting to the two young rape victims.

If only you could attended their rape survivors group or their therapy sessions to explain it to them.

Hmmm, which is worse - fabricating or skewing details of a tragic rape to score political points against a group you want to oppress, or pointing out when details have been skewed or fabricated?

 

[MT15]

 

[LA - L.A.]

I'm sure that the consensus you developed would be very comforting to the two young rape victims.

If only you could attended their rape survivors group or their therapy sessions to explain it to them.

Please provide the source of your allegations so I can take a look at the reported facts of the case for myself.

 

[zztop]

bunch of spineless cowards

Speaker McCarthy supports expunging Trump's impeachments over Ukraine and Jan. 6

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy says he supports the idea of expunging the two impeachments of Donald Trump.

apnews.com

“I think it is appropriate,” said McCarthy, the Republican from California. “Just as I thought before — that you should expunge it, because it never should have gone through.”

 

[MT15]

bunch of spineless cowards

Speaker McCarthy supports expunging Trump's impeachments over Ukraine and Jan. 6

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy says he supports the idea of expunging the two impeachments of Donald Trump.

apnews.com

“I think it is appropriate,” said McCarthy, the Republican from California. “Just as I thought before — that you should expunge it, because it never should have gone through.”

Like everyone is saying - it’s just pretending. They cannot erase it. Just another indication that they have no spine or integrity at all.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Hmmm, which is worse - fabricating or skewing details of a tragic rape to score political points against a group you want to oppress, or pointing out when details have been skewed or fabricated?

What details were fabricated or skewed?

If you prefer, you can just link me to the discussions you all had about this, and I can read them. If you do that, I'll respond in the "all things LGBT-Q thread.

 

[Snarky Sack]

Obviously, this won't really do anything. On the other hand, the impeachment didn't do anything either, and the Dems knew going in that there was no real chance for removal. But it got them out of their offices, and gave them some payback for the just as absurd impeachment of Bill Clinton.

It will be a nice show of support for Trump at a time when he is facing the most incredibly biased and politically motivated prosecution in the history of the U.S.

Downside for Trump would be if not enough Republicans go along with it, and the resolution fails to pass.