What happens to the Republican Party now? (2 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[DaveXA]

Here is an article showing that even though you liberals are in the majority on this thread...your point of view will not prevail this November...

Biden and Democrats Should Be Absolutely Terrified by New Poll Numbers

Mario Tama/GettyIn Ernest Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, a character is asked how he went bankrupt. “Gradually, then suddenly” is the reply.This formulation might also help explain how it feels to lose an election. President Joe Biden’s collapse of popular support has been so long coming that a...

www.yahoo.com

I don't really care about poll numbers. Whatever happened to doing the right thing?

 

[bird]

Here is an article showing that even though you liberals are in the majority on this thread...your point of view will not prevail this November...

Biden and Democrats Should Be Absolutely Terrified by New Poll Numbers

Mario Tama/GettyIn Ernest Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, a character is asked how he went bankrupt. “Gradually, then suddenly” is the reply.This formulation might also help explain how it feels to lose an election. President Joe Biden’s collapse of popular support has been so long coming that a...

www.yahoo.com

Nah. What it shows, if anything, is Bird’s Theorem. What is Bird’s Theorem you ask?

”’We The People’ are stupid.”

Hundreds of thousands of people are dead because of the ego and idiocy of Donald Trump. The very democratic institutions created by the advancement of society and the Constitution are under attack because of Donald Trump and Republicans. But polls show humans to be absolute idiots.

Am I surprised? No. Am I surprised that conservatives are all in on insanity? No. Social agitprop is well applied by Republican strategists and politicians like the idiot governors of TX, FL and MS. “The other” is a timed tested technigue. So is the impossibility of counting on rationality from the electorate.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Nah. What it shows, if anything, is Bird’s Theorem. What is Bird’s Theorem you ask?

”’We The People’ are stupid.”

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Here is an article showing that even though you liberals are in the majority on this thread...your point of view will not prevail this November...

Biden and Democrats Should Be Absolutely Terrified by New Poll Numbers

Mario Tama/GettyIn Ernest Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, a character is asked how he went bankrupt. “Gradually, then suddenly” is the reply.This formulation might also help explain how it feels to lose an election. President Joe Biden’s collapse of popular support has been so long coming that a...

www.yahoo.com

Additionally, this article illustrates how Republicans do not support former President Trump
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GOP pollster says Republican lawmakers are 'laughing' at Trump behind his back because 'they think he's a child'

"They won't say it" in public, the GOP pundit Frank Luntz told The Daily Beast of the Republican Party's view of former President Donald Trump.

news.yahoo.com

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Additionally, this article illustrates how Republicans do not support former President Trump
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GOP pollster says Republican lawmakers are 'laughing' at Trump behind his back because 'they think he's a child'

"They won't say it" in public, the GOP pundit Frank Luntz told The Daily Beast of the Republican Party's view of former President Donald Trump.

news.yahoo.com

So....2024 will not be Trump....and if the DNC is smart...it won't Biden.
Two new party nominees please!

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Here is an article showing that even though you liberals are in the majority on this thread...your point of view will not prevail this November...

Biden and Democrats Should Be Absolutely Terrified by New Poll Numbers

Mario Tama/GettyIn Ernest Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, a character is asked how he went bankrupt. “Gradually, then suddenly” is the reply.This formulation might also help explain how it feels to lose an election. President Joe Biden’s collapse of popular support has been so long coming that a...

www.yahoo.com

I don't think anyone here assumes this forum is a representation of the entire electorate. Biden is perceived -- rightly or wrongly -- as ineffective. Most independent voters will be basing their decisions on tangible things like gas prices, inflation, etc. There is no doubt this will have a negative down-ballot effect on Democrats.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

I don't really care about poll numbers. Whatever happened to doing the right thing?

Doing the right thing would be not voting for Democrats this November.

 

[SFIDC3]

Doing the right thing would be not voting for Democrats this November.

When Trump is your presidential candidate in 2024 what in the world will you do?

I for one hope the Republican party implodes.....

 

[DaveXA]

Additionally, this article illustrates how Republicans do not support former President Trump
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GOP pollster says Republican lawmakers are 'laughing' at Trump behind his back because 'they think he's a child'

"They won't say it" in public, the GOP pundit Frank Luntz told The Daily Beast of the Republican Party's view of former President Donald Trump.

news.yahoo.com

I'll believe it when the RNC dumps and distances themselves from him.

 

[DaveXA]

Doing the right thing would be not voting for Democrats this November.

Doing the right thing would be not voting for Congresspeople still beholden to Trump and his minions. I will not vote for someone who still supports Trump. Period.

 

[DaveXA]

So....2024 will not be Trump....and if the DNC is smart...it won't Biden.
Two new party nominees please!

How do you know that? I haven't seen any Republican Party endorsement of anyone other than Trump. Wake me up when Republicans actually nominate someone not named Trump.

 

[MT15]

Doing the right thing would be not voting for Democrats this November.

Well, the alternative is so much worse. We have the R party who won’t even articulate a platform of issues. That supported trying to overturn a valid election for the first time in this country‘s history.

I will proudly vote for Democrats up and down the ballot until Republicans come back from this radical culture war nonsense.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

When Trump is your presidential candidate in 2024 what in the world will you do?

I for one hope the Republican party implodes.....

Where have YOU been?
Your specific question has been asked to me numerous times.
I have answered it numerous times.
Trump will NOT be the nominee

GOP pollster says Republican lawmakers are 'laughing' at Trump behind his back because 'they think he's a child'

"They won't say it" in public, the GOP pundit Frank Luntz told The Daily Beast of the Republican Party's view of former President Donald Trump.

news.yahoo.com

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Yet just to satisfy your hypothetical question...if American was stupid enough to have the 2024 DNC and RNC nominees : Biden and Trump...I would rebel against America's choices and vote for a 3rd Party candidate....even if that candidate won't win....I have to look myself in the mirror and know that I did not vote for Biden or Trump.
Both Biden and Trump should just focus on their families in 2024 and beyond.
Enjoying their "Golden Years" without the aggravation of politics.

 

[Optimus Prime]

First time hearing about this
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Starve your own voters to own the libs.
That appears to be Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s latest strategy for reaching the White House, given his decision to deliberately snarl traffic on the U.S. southern border — leaving food to rot and critical components for cars and other manufacturing to remain inaccessible to U.S. companies and consumers.


Last week, Abbott (R) announced that state troopers would begin “enhanced” safety inspections of commercial vehicles crossing the border, ostensibly to catch illegal immigrants and drugs.

Now, federal officials from Customs and Border Protection (CBP) already inspect vehicles crossing the border for human trafficking and potentially illicit cargo.

And Texas state troopers are not legally allowed to inspect these truckers’ cargo; they can check only for mechanical issues, such as faulty brakes, tires or taillights.

Abbott must have known his stunt had risks. The quantity of cross-border trade — in food, auto parts, retail goods — is enormous, and of enormous consequence to the Lone Star State’s economy.

Roughly $9 billion worth of fresh produce alone — 1.28 billion pounds — crosses into Texas from Mexico annually, according to the Texas International Produce Association.


But this is political theater, after all, and the show must go on.
 Amid all the other existing supply-chain bottlenecks and shipping delays, drivers waiting to cross into Texas have been backed up for miles. The typical wait at some border crossing points, usually measured in minutes, this week has exceeded five hours, according to CBP; some trucks have reportedly sat in traffic for more than 30 hours.

These bottlenecks are not merely a waste of time for drivers and businesses. Produce also spoils in the heat as idled trucks run low on fuel needed to keep fruit and vegetables refrigerated. Some truckers staged a blockade this week to protest the useless new inspection requirements, snarling traffic even further. (The protests have since ended.)

Meanwhile, Texas-sourced exports intended for markets in Mexico sit untouched, waiting for empty trucks to reach them.


Even fellow Republicans have criticized Abbott’s policy, with Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller calling the inspections “economy killing” and warning that they will soon drive produce prices higher, if the produce is available at all……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/14/greg-abbott-border-inspection-policy-hurt-texas-own-voters/

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

I'll believe it when the RNC dumps and distances themselves from him.

They will.
Listen.....life is like this... (Just an analogy...it will shift to the topic soon)
There has been many "powerful" and seemingly untouchable men who forced themselves on women. Yes there have been many and right now some of their names are coming into your mind.
In many instances, at first, no women came forward to press charges because they felt that they...the woman victim will not get justice and only they the woman victim will suffer.....YET....eventually some brave woman steps forward and reports the man in power who victimized her....then whoa! ....a 2nd and 3rd and 4th and 5th woman steps forward....safety in numbers.
Justice prevails and that man is exposed and is no longer a threat.
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So that's just a life principle or analogy to lay the groundwork for this point on the original topic...
Liz Cheney stood up to Trump and a couple of others.
These few are still standing.
Now former Governor Sununu comes out against Trump

Republican governor blasts Trump as ‘crazy’ during Washington roast

Chris Sununu of New Hampshire makes remarks at event noted for tradition of roasting politicians with satirical and cutting comedy speeches

www.theguardian.com

He'll be fine.
In the upcoming months it will be one Republican after another after another stepping forward and saying: "I'm my own person...and for me, former President Trump is NOT the guy I want to associate my political career with".
It WILL happen. You can all sleep well at night.
The mature ones on here will say: "Steve, I have to hand it to you, you were correct all along".

 

[SystemShock]

They will.
Listen.....life is like this... (Just an analogy...it will shift to the topic soon)
There has been many "powerful" and seemingly untouchable men who forced themselves on women. Yes there have been many and right now some of their names are coming into your mind.
In many instances, at first, no women came forward to press charges because they felt that they...the woman victim will not get justice and only they the woman victim will suffer.....YET....eventually some brave woman steps forward and reports the man in power who victimized her....then whoa! ....a 2nd and 3rd and 4th and 5th woman steps forward....safety in numbers.
Justice prevails and that man is exposed and is no longer a threat.
*
So that's just a life principle or analogy to lay the groundwork for this point on the original topic...
Liz Cheney stood up to Trump and a couple of others.
These few are still standing.
Now former Governor Sununu comes out against Trump

Republican governor blasts Trump as ‘crazy’ during Washington roast

Chris Sununu of New Hampshire makes remarks at event noted for tradition of roasting politicians with satirical and cutting comedy speeches

www.theguardian.com

He'll be fine.
In the upcoming months it will be one Republican after another after another stepping forward and saying: "I'm my own person...and for me, former President Trump is NOT the guy I want to associate my political career with".
It WILL happen. You can all sleep well at night.
The mature ones on here will say: "Steve, I have to hand it to you, you were correct all along".

Fantastic.

What about the ideology? Is that going away too? How about the Cruzes? The Blackburns? The Abbots? The DeSaintises? The Jordans? The Cawthorns? The Taylor-Greenes? The Hawleys? The Cottons? The list is much longer, but anyway, are they going away too?

If they go away too, that'd be fantasticker... but if they stay, and then someone like DeSaintis goes to the White House, it'd be the same shirt, just a different toilet.

 

[SFIDC3]

Where have YOU been?
Your specific question has been asked to me numerous times.
I have answered it numerous times.
Trump will NOT be the nominee

GOP pollster says Republican lawmakers are 'laughing' at Trump behind his back because 'they think he's a child'

"They won't say it" in public, the GOP pundit Frank Luntz told The Daily Beast of the Republican Party's view of former President Donald Trump.

news.yahoo.com

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Yet just to satisfy your hypothetical question...if American was stupid enough to have the 2024 DNC and RNC nominees : Biden and Trump...I would rebel against America's choices and vote for a 3rd Party candidate....even if that candidate won't win....I have to look myself in the mirror and know that I did not vote for Biden or Trump.
Both Biden and Trump should just focus on their families in 2024 and beyond.
Enjoying their "Golden Years" without the aggravation of politics.

You really have a crystal ball do you? What about the crazy Repub mindset, is that going away with Trump? DeSantis and his ilk (Abbott) are just as bad.....

You have no idea what you are talking about, about the only way Trump doesn't get the nomination is if he dies from a heart attack before the election (which I hope for), he is finally held accountable for his crimes, or he decides not to run on his on volition......

 

[MT15]

They will.
Listen.....life is like this... (Just an analogy...it will shift to the topic soon)
There has been many "powerful" and seemingly untouchable men who forced themselves on women. Yes there have been many and right now some of their names are coming into your mind.
In many instances, at first, no women came forward to press charges because they felt that they...the woman victim will not get justice and only they the woman victim will suffer.....YET....eventually some brave woman steps forward and reports the man in power who victimized her....then whoa! ....a 2nd and 3rd and 4th and 5th woman steps forward....safety in numbers.
Justice prevails and that man is exposed and is no longer a threat.
*
So that's just a life principle or analogy to lay the groundwork for this point on the original topic...
Liz Cheney stood up to Trump and a couple of others.
These few are still standing.
Now former Governor Sununu comes out against Trump

Republican governor blasts Trump as ‘crazy’ during Washington roast

Chris Sununu of New Hampshire makes remarks at event noted for tradition of roasting politicians with satirical and cutting comedy speeches

www.theguardian.com

He'll be fine.
In the upcoming months it will be one Republican after another after another stepping forward and saying: "I'm my own person...and for me, former President Trump is NOT the guy I want to associate my political career with".
It WILL happen. You can all sleep well at night.
The mature ones on here will say: "Steve, I have to hand it to you, you were correct all along".

I sure hope that you are right about Trump, but I don’t believe it yet. Sununu already has walked his comments back a bit by saying he was joking. I just don’t see any other R politicians joining Cheney and Kinzinger, while I do see moderates retiring. The decision by the RNC to withdraw from presidential debates for the first time in 40 years or so tells me they expect Trump to be the nominee.