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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    nolaspe said:
    I honestly think that she isn't in DC to do anything but just be an insane instigator...
    www.cnn.com

    Cori Bush says she is moving offices to get away from Marjorie Taylor Greene after mask altercation | CNN Politics

    Democratic Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri announced Friday that she will be moving her office away from GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, following a heated exchange earlier this month where Bush confronted Greene about not wearing a mask in a hallway on Capitol Hill.
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    I am dying to see ANY legislation that she puts forward.
     
    superchuck500 said:



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    So, one of my Jewish pals confirmed to me that this space laser does indeed exist and how did I think that bagels get holes in them. He then sent me a pic of it in action... Hilarity ensued...
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    The Republican Party faces an uncertain future but clearly will shrink in the short term. This process has already begun on both ends of the Trump spectrum. Numerous prominent conservatives, as well as rank and file voters, either left the Party (think Lincoln Project) or publicly stated that they will have nothing to do with the Party until it purges Trumpism. Diehard Trump supporters have vilified the Party establishment for failing to support Trump more devotedly, and have vowed to have abandon an organization dominated by “RINOs”.

    These outlines of the struggle within the Party are visible. On the one side, anti-Trumpers (are doing everything they can to denounce the President. On the other side, many Republicans are afraid of losing their seats if they lose the pro-Trump voters; some state Party organizations (Oregon and Wyoming) have already moved to censure Trump opponents, most notably Liz Cheney.

    I think that many in the Party would like to shed Trump and his impolitic irrationality, but maintain and harness the pro-Trump enthusiasm. The challenge to coopting Trump’s support that core Trump voters are tied to him: they feed on his grievance, his conspiracy theories, his overall persona. I don’t think anyone knows how to wean them, or even whether it is possible. More troubling for Repubs is the exodus of corporate and individual sponsors from Trump and his supporters. If this continues, and I don’t know that it will as Jan 6 recedes to the background, it will handicap the party in 2022.

    Trump is the wild card: his popularity, his messaging, his finances and his goals. After falling immediately after the Capitol Riot, Trump’s approval among Republicans has bounced back over the last week. Yet he has already lost some support from the fringe (e.g., Proud Boys), who felt that his backtracking after January 6th was a betrayal. His messaging in the short term will be determined in part by how quickly he finds a venue to spew from, and how easily any messages he puts out can be disseminated by his followers. Since Facebook execs have demonstrated zero backbone to take responsibility for a decision on whether to reactivate his account, we will have to hope that the “independent commission” decides to permaban him, and that everyone else (Youtube, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest etc.etc.) stays the course. Financially, his outlook is bleak. In addition to larges loans coming due and the loss of numerous contracts for his businesses, it is highly likely that Trump’s energies and resources will be sapped by an avalanche of criminal and civil lawsuits.

    Herein lies the answer, I think, to the question of whether he will form another Party: if he decides that it is the best way to monetize his grievance, then he will. However, his narcissism and need to be the center of attention cripple his ability to, and interest in, building a political apparatus that will outlast him. I believe that the most he could conceivably bring himself to do in this regard would be to cede the stage to his eldest son (and namesake), who clearly wants it.

    One possible silver lining in all of this is a push for electoral reform by anti-Trump Republicans. Ranked choice voting would help liberate the Party from Trump’s influence in state primaries. It would be delightfully ironic if the Party were to push for real electoral reform in spite of its history and nature.
     
    At this point it looks like they are willing to sweep the whole insurrection thing under the rug and proceed as if nothing has happened. The overwhelming majority is still under Trump's heel but that is because over the last couple of decades rather than pitching a large tent they have moved themselves from the party of limited government to the party of hyper-nationalism and Christian fanaticism. People in the mold of Ronald Reagan are the extreme minority of the GOP now.
     
    I saw a poll on tv saying that only 50% of Republicans think Trump should have an influence in the future of the Republican Party. IIRC, that is. That is a far cry from the support he had before the election.

    He is still grifting, though. He made up a logo for “The Office of the Former President” with a seal and everything and is releasing statements. I pray FB, YouTube and Twitter hold fast, and keep him from getting his old accounts back.

    As for regular Republican politicians, they are ceding their party to Trump and the radical right. No fight in them at all. Epic cowardice from most of them. The good ones will retire, become independent or join the Democratic Party. The crazy radicals will be happy as pigs in slop, but I do not think there are enough of them to sustain a national party. Sure they can hold some localities, maybe even a few states, but they cannot replace what the Republican party used to be, which is a valid, serious counterpoint to the Democratic Party.

    Big corporations will not support the radical Seditionists. That money is gone. A lot of Republican voters won’t either and they will easily switch to Democratic candidates, like we just saw in GA.

    I think Trump will form his own party in a flat minute if he thinks he can raise and make more money that way. He cares nothing about the Republican Party, it’s views or beliefs, the good of the country or how many people ruin their reputations or careers by getting down in the dirt with him.

    They will deserve everything that happens to them.
     
    The stupid reactions to the following is nothing more than political theater for the stupid people that will eat this crap up.





    www.foxnews.com

    GOP reps slam Pentagon move to give COVID-19 vaccines to Gitmo detainees

    Republicans reacted with anger to the plan by the Pentagon to give COVID-19 vaccines to prisoners at Guantanamo Bay -- including accused 9/11 ringleader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
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    Who really cares about 50 or so prisoners getting vaccinated before everyone else in America? Just mind numbingly dumb.
     
    DJ1BigTymer said:
    The stupid reactions to the following is nothing more than political theater for the stupid people that will eat this crap up.





    www.foxnews.com

    GOP reps slam Pentagon move to give COVID-19 vaccines to Gitmo detainees

    Republicans reacted with anger to the plan by the Pentagon to give COVID-19 vaccines to prisoners at Guantanamo Bay -- including accused 9/11 ringleader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
    www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

    Who really cares about 50 or so prisoners getting vaccinated before everyone else in America? Just mind numbingly dumb.
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    The target audience thinks COVID is a big joke anyway, so why’s it matter who gets the vaccine and when? Outage of the day.
     
    They need to, at least, cull the low hanging fruit. Yhey can start with QBert.

    www.coloradopols.com

    Boebert "Reimbursements" Already Surpass $30,000 | Colorado Pols

    Congresswoman-elect Lauren "Q*Bert" Boebert didn't even wait until she was sworn-in to office to start her own political grifting operation. We were perusing the latest campaign finance reports this morning and came across a whopper of an expenditure: A few weeks ago, Boebert wrote herself a...
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    When even Tom says they are talking like Hitler:

     

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