What happens to the Republican Party now? (3 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[zztop]

Remember all those years ago we all laughed at those crackpot tea party members? Well to me the (R) party got fully infected/assimilated into the tea-then morphed into Q-party. Sure theres a few "sane" ones left, but I think it is only a matter of time b/c either they are pushed out or voted out for not fully supporting Trump and lackeys.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

That is exactly right. I do not believe there will be a 'recovery' or return to normalcy for the GOP. This is not a good thing for the Democrats because the GOP controls the majority of statehouses and thus can legally prevent a legitimately elected President from taking office over baseless allegations of fraud, e.g., whenever the Republican doesn't win.

Unfortunately too many current members of the GOP are afraid of Trump and will not fight back... or they simply don't care and now that Trump has crushed all civility and norms they have carte blanche to conjure nonsense out of thin air to pander to low-information/deranged voters. This country will never recover from the harm Trump did to its democratic institutions. The next four years is borrowed time at best. Plan long-term. Things will only get worse over time.

 

[zztop]

Exclusive: Dozens of former Bush officials leave Republican Party, calling it 'Trump cult'

Dozens of Republicans in former President George W. Bush's administration are leaving the party, dismayed by a failure of many elected Republicans to disown Donald Trump after his false claims of election fraud sparked a deadly storming of the U.S. Capitol last month.

www.reuters.com

These officials, some who served in the highest echelons of the Bush administration, said they had hoped that a Trump defeat would lead party leaders to move on from the former president and denounce his baseless claims that the November presidential election was stolen.

But with most Republican lawmakers sticking to Trump, these officials say they no longer recognize the party they served. Some have ended their membership, others are letting it lapse while a few are newly registered as independents, according to a dozen former Bush officials who spoke with Reuters.

“The Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists. I’d call it the cult of Trump,” said Jimmy Gurulé, who was Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in the Bush administration.

 

[GMRfellowtraveller]

Exclusive: Dozens of former Bush officials leave Republican Party, calling it 'Trump cult'

Dozens of Republicans in former President George W. Bush's administration are leaving the party, dismayed by a failure of many elected Republicans to disown Donald Trump after his false claims of election fraud sparked a deadly storming of the U.S. Capitol last month.

www.reuters.com

These officials, some who served in the highest echelons of the Bush administration, said they had hoped that a Trump defeat would lead party leaders to move on from the former president and denounce his baseless claims that the November presidential election was stolen.

But with most Republican lawmakers sticking to Trump, these officials say they no longer recognize the party they served. Some have ended their membership, others are letting it lapse while a few are newly registered as independents, according to a dozen former Bush officials who spoke with Reuters.

“The Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists. I’d call it the cult of Trump,” said Jimmy Gurulé, who was Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in the Bush administration.

i'm sure they're even more shocked than Capt. Renault about the goings on

 

[wardorican]

They need to, at least, cull the low hanging fruit. Yhey can start with QBert.

Boebert "Reimbursements" Already Surpass $30,000 | Colorado Pols

Congresswoman-elect Lauren "Q*Bert" Boebert didn't even wait until she was sworn-in to office to start her own political grifting operation. We were perusing the latest campaign finance reports this morning and came across a whopper of an expenditure: A few weeks ago, Boebert wrote herself a...

www.coloradopols.com

Anything come from this? This was from December...

 

[zztop]

Dems deliver GOP ultimatum over Marjorie Taylor Greene

They're moving to strip the controversial Republican of her committee assignments.

www.politico.com

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is planning to deliver an ultimatum to McCarthy this week: Either Republicans move on their own to strip Greene (R-Ga.) of her committee assignments within 72 hours, or Democrats will bring the issue to the House floor.
The Democrats’ move comes amid intense fury within the Democratic Caucus over Greene’s long record of incendiary rhetoric, including peddling conspiracy theories that the nation’s deadliest mass shootings were staged. Greene also endorsed violence against Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats before she was elected to Congress.

Last week, Greene was officially awarded seats on the House Education and Labor Committee and the House Budget Committee.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Dems deliver GOP ultimatum over Marjorie Taylor Greene

They're moving to strip the controversial Republican of her committee assignments.

www.politico.com

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is planning to deliver an ultimatum to McCarthy this week: Either Republicans move on their own to strip Greene (R-Ga.) of her committee assignments within 72 hours, or Democrats will bring the issue to the House floor.
The Democrats’ move comes amid intense fury within the Democratic Caucus over Greene’s long record of incendiary rhetoric, including peddling conspiracy theories that the nation’s deadliest mass shootings were staged. Greene also endorsed violence against Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats before she was elected to Congress.

Last week, Greene was officially awarded seats on the House Education and Labor Committee and the House Budget Committee.

It’ll be more “Democrats are trying to silence us, bully us, cancel us, threaten us! Why are they so afraid of conservative voices?”

 

[Optimus Prime]

Bush’s statement on David Duke is a far cry from what we are seeing today
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Just how low can Republicans go?
Look at House GOP leaders wringing their hands over Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), the freshman lawmaker known for racist, anti-Semitic and Islamophobic views.

Contrast their anxious cries of “Oh, dear me, what do we do about Marjorie?” with the moment decades ago when the party had to contend with David Duke, the neo-Nazi former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard.


At a Nov. 6, 1991, news conference 10 days before Louisianans went to the polls to vote for governor, GOP President George H.W. Bush urged them not to support Duke, the Republican on the ticket.

Bush said:
“When someone asserts that the Holocaust never took place, then I don’t believe that person ever deserves one iota of public trust,” Bush said.

“And when someone has so recently endorsed Nazism, it is inconceivable that such a person can legitimately aspire to leadership — in a leadership role in a free society. And when someone has a long record, an ugly record, of racism and of bigotry, that record simply cannot be erased by the glib rhetoric of a political campaign.

“So, I believe that David Duke is an insincere charlatan,” Bush continued. “I believe he is attempting to hoodwink the voters of Louisiana, and I believe that he should be rejected for what he is and what he stands for.”


On Election Day, Democrat Edwin Edwards won with 61 percent of the vote..........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/01/gop-once-knew-what-do-about-problems-like-marjorie-taylor-greene/

 

[GMRfellowtraveller]

It’ll be more “Democrats are trying to silence us, bully us, cancel us, threaten us! Why are they so afraid of conservative voices?”

That would be the rhetoric if Dems gave Rs loofah baths and adopted Alex Jones’ platform
I don’t give a flip what R propaganda is going to be

 

[nolaspe]

It says a lot when literal human garbage is rebuked by another piece of human garbage...

McConnell says Taylor Greene’s embrace of conspiracy theories a ‘cancer’

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Monday blasted Georgia GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s embrace of “loony lies and conspiracy theories” as a “cancer for the Republican Party…

thehill.com

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Angry Mitch is best Mitch. I love the way he said "Un-hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin-juh-duh!" when describing the rioters in his speech later that night.

 

[Lapaz]

Dems deliver GOP ultimatum over Marjorie Taylor Greene

They're moving to strip the controversial Republican of her committee assignments.

www.politico.com

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is planning to deliver an ultimatum to McCarthy this week: Either Republicans move on their own to strip Greene (R-Ga.) of her committee assignments within 72 hours, or Democrats will bring the issue to the House floor.
The Democrats’ move comes amid intense fury within the Democratic Caucus over Greene’s long record of incendiary rhetoric, including peddling conspiracy theories that the nation’s deadliest mass shootings were staged. Greene also endorsed violence against Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats before she was elected to Congress.

Last week, Greene was officially awarded seats on the House Education and Labor Committee and the House Budget Committee.

I think it is pitiful that the extent of the punishment for her dangerous rhetoric is to remove her from a committee! She should be impeached for her repeated comments about Pelosi being put to death and her support for violence via her likes. It isn't enough to prosecute her, but she doesn't belong in congress, much less a committee.

 

[superchuck500]

It says a lot when literal human garbage is rebuked by another piece of human garbage...

McConnell says Taylor Greene’s embrace of conspiracy theories a ‘cancer’

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Monday blasted Georgia GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s embrace of “loony lies and conspiracy theories” as a “cancer for the Republican Party…

thehill.com

I think it's important because it gives a little bit of cover to House Democrats who want to remove her from committee. The populist Republicans will cry that it's just partisan "cancel culture" - so I think it's a pretty big deal that Mitch is coming out endorsing her rejection. Of course, we'll just how influential Mitch is these days.

 

[Goatman saint]

Let’s see some action though. Mitch may say a few things here or there, much like after the riot at the capital. But when it comes to holding anyone accountable, it just won’t happen.

 

[superchuck500]

Let’s see some action though. Mitch may say a few things here or there, much like after the riot at the capital. But when it comes to holding anyone accountable, it just won’t happen.

Mitch has no say in what happens to MTG in the House. I'm just saying I think his statement helps with Hoyer and Pelosi's effort to have her yanked for her committees.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The 22 midterms will be interesting and I agree with the article the results will say where the GOP is headed
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Before a sane, responsible political party can rise like a phoenix from the ashes of today's dangerously unhinged GOP, there must be ashes to rise from.

The nation is going to have to destroy the Republican Party to save it.
Parties reform and rebuild themselves after suffering massive, scorched-earth defeats.

Since Republicans decided to follow Donald Trump and Fox News into the dystopian hellscape of white supremacy, paranoid conspiracy theory and know-nothing rejection of science, they have lost control of both chambers of Congress and the White House.

Yet it has become obvious that those defeats are not nearly enough.
You might think the violent and deadly Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol — an unprecedented attack on our democracy, incited by Trump's election-fraud Big Lie — would snap the GOP back into reality.

Unbelievably, though, you would be wrong..........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-the-gop-is-to-rise-from-the-ashes-it-has-to-burn-first/2021/02/01/bcc82e24-64c2-11eb-8468-21bc48f07fe5_story.html

 

[Taurus]

The 22 midterms will be interesting and I agree with the article the results will say where the GOP is headed
=====================

Before a sane, responsible political party can rise like a phoenix from the ashes of today's dangerously unhinged GOP, there must be ashes to rise from.

The nation is going to have to destroy the Republican Party to save it.
Parties reform and rebuild themselves after suffering massive, scorched-earth defeats.

Since Republicans decided to follow Donald Trump and Fox News into the dystopian hellscape of white supremacy, paranoid conspiracy theory and know-nothing rejection of science, they have lost control of both chambers of Congress and the White House.

Yet it has become obvious that those defeats are not nearly enough.
You might think the violent and deadly Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol — an unprecedented attack on our democracy, incited by Trump's election-fraud Big Lie — would snap the GOP back into reality.

Unbelievably, though, you would be wrong..........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-the-gop-is-to-rise-from-the-ashes-it-has-to-burn-first/2021/02/01/bcc82e24-64c2-11eb-8468-21bc48f07fe5_story.html

Yup.
I've been saying for years that the GOP won't change until they lose.
Why would they?
If voter suppression, fearmongering and gerrymandering keep you in power, why stop?

 

[Optimus Prime]

I see we are back to this



It was almost comical how many Republicans claimed to have no knowledge of whatever crazy thing Trump just said or tweeted, even when you asked them again days later
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Republican Sen. Tommy Tuberville of Alabama said Tuesday that he can't comment on allegations against Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene because bad weather has prevented him from reading the news.

"I haven't even looked at what all she's done," he told the CNN producer Ted Barrett. "I'd have to hold back a statement on that. Travel in this weather it's been a little rough looking at any news or whatever." ...........

GOP Sen. Tommy Tuberville says he doesn't know anything about Marjorie Taylor Greene because bad weather has prevented him from reading the news (msn.com)