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    I’m sure much of us are having 2016 flashbacks this morning with a sick feeling to our stomachs..

    2 of the last 3 elections Democrats have lost to a far right demagogue

    Harris didn’t get close in many states to even Biden’s performance. We could very well lose the Presidency, Senate AND House depending on results the next few days…..

    What went wrong?
    What could’ve been done better?
    What can we change in the future to ensure voters are motivated like they were when Obama was elected?

    Democrats have no choice but to admit there’s a huge problem with some aspect of their platform— and to do a deep introspection of what’s going wrong..
     
    longtime lurker said:
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    Good, time to rebrand. The baby boomers held on too long and have sunk the party.

    Just think of an alternate universe where...
    • RBG recognized she needed to retire while Obama could have replaced her.
    • Hillary recognized that she was so deeply unliked by so much of the country that they'd elect virtually anyone instead of her.
    • Biden recognized he was underwater and announced after the mid-terms that he wouldn't run for reelection.
     
    Booker said:
    Good, time to rebrand. The baby boomers held on too long and have sunk the party.

    Just think of an alternate universe where...
    • RBG recognized she needed to retire while Obama could have replaced her.
    • Hillary recognized that she was so deeply unliked by so much of the country that they'd elect virtually anyone instead of her.
    • Biden recognized he was underwater and announced after the mid-terms that he wouldn't run for reelection.
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    This hurts to think about. Oof. The worst was RBG not retiring earlier. It would be a more manageable 4-5 split rather than the 3-6 split. Roe would still be the law of the land and the Court would not have made Trump immune to prosecution while in office.
     
    In RBG's defense, she would have stepped down years earlier than '15. Like immediately after the 2014 midterms.

    Remember they held Garland's nomination up for a year and said that the next president should pick.

    That wasn't going to be different for RGB. She would have had her spot held hostage too so it would have had to be years earlier.

    Seriously, Garland's nomination being stonewalled was a bigger steal than RGB. It was a complete theft of a seat.

    Once it was clear they weren't going to accept Garland, she was stuck until 2020. She didn't make it, sadly.

    Now that being said, I have a very soft spot for her. A woman who holds RGB as a personal hero, is one of the most important and special people on this planet to me. So I am biased.
     
    CoolBrees said:
    In RBG's defense, she would have stepped down years earlier than '15. Like immediately after the 2014 midterms.

    Remember they held Garland's nomination up for a year and said that the next president should pick.

    That wasn't going to be different for RGB. She would have had her spot held hostage too so it would have had to be years earlier.

    Seriously, Garland's nomination being stonewalled was a bigger steal than RGB. It was a complete theft of a seat.

    Once it was clear they weren't going to accept Garland, she was stuck until 2020. She didn't make it, sadly.

    Now that being said, I have a very soft spot for her. A woman who holds RGB as a personal hero, is one of the most important and special people on this planet to me. So I am biased.
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    I get it. She was 87 when she died in 2020. She was 81/82 in 2014/2015. While it's hard to predict how the political winds blow, if you're in your 80s as a Justice you gotta consider retiring in order to give your party a chance to replace you, especially with the Republicans trending towards more and more extreme policies. I have no doubt she realized she made a mistake by not retiring sooner and basically killed Roe with that mistake.

    That doesn't take away from all the good things she did, but it definitely hurt her legacy. I don't know if Justices get tunnel vision or what, but being smart about when to retire has to be a part of their decision making.

    I do agree about Garland as well. That was theft indeed.
     
    CoolBrees said:
    In RBG's defense, she would have stepped down years earlier than '15. Like immediately after the 2014 midterms.

    Remember they held Garland's nomination up for a year and said that the next president should pick.

    That wasn't going to be different for RGB. She would have had her spot held hostage too so it would have had to be years earlier.

    Seriously, Garland's nomination being stonewalled was a bigger steal than RGB. It was a complete theft of a seat.

    Once it was clear they weren't going to accept Garland, she was stuck until 2020. She didn't make it, sadly.

    Now that being said, I have a very soft spot for her. A woman who holds RGB as a personal hero, is one of the most important and special people on this planet to me. So I am biased.
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    Yes, being in her 80's and being a cancer survivor, she should have retired years earlier than '15, like as soon as Obama was re-elected. She should have known better than to expect that the Democrats would be able to hold the presidency for three straight terms (hasn't happened for one party since Reagan-Reagan-Bush, hasn't happened for the Democrats since Roosevelt-Roosevelt-Truman).
     
    And just to follow up, RBG had an incredible career, with her service on the Supreme Court being just a part of it. But she ultimately bet Roe v. Wade and womens' right to choose on her ability, as a pancreatic cancer survivor, to live and serve on the Supreme Court into her 90's. It was an incredibly selfish decision, and it will always be part of her legacy, almost like a Shakespearean cautionary tale of how hubris and ego can undermine the lifes work of even the best of us.
     
    www.yahoo.com

    Dem Rep Ripped at Town Hall by Furious Anti-Musk Voters

    New Hampshire Rep. Maggie Goodlander faced “holy anger” at a town hall in Concord on Thursday as constituents urged the Democrats to do more to oppose President Donald Trump. More than 200 people packed a high school auditorium on Wednesday to question the congresswoman, expressing fury at...
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    It's been over a month since I posted on Mad About Politics, but when I saw this online I thought of you guys...
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    The Bidens want back in

    Former President Joe Biden has told some Democratic leaders he’ll raise funds, campaign and do anything else necessary for Democrats to recover lost ground.
    www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
     
    SteveSBrickNJ said:
    It's been over a month since I posted on Mad About Politics, but when I saw this online I thought of you guys...
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    The Bidens want back in

    Former President Joe Biden has told some Democratic leaders he’ll raise funds, campaign and do anything else necessary for Democrats to recover lost ground.
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    It's a testament to his patriotism! He, like many of us are appalled at what he has seen these past two months. He has watched OUR country turn its allies into adversaries and has catered to our enemies. He has watched the progress his administration had made with our economy cratered in 60 days. He has watched the progress OUR country has made over the past 60 years turn into a punchline.

    Any REAL AMERICAN would feel the call to action when its country is facing an existential threat. The GOP has surrendered its Congressional power to Executive Branch, the Dems needs all the help they can get in order to wrestle Congress back from the GOP.
     
    SteveSBrickNJ said:
    It's been over a month since I posted on Mad About Politics, but when I saw this online I thought of you guys...
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    www.yahoo.com

    The Bidens want back in

    Former President Joe Biden has told some Democratic leaders he’ll raise funds, campaign and do anything else necessary for Democrats to recover lost ground.
    www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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    Social Security cuts going to hit everyone eventually.
     
    longtime lurker said:
    www.theguardian.com

    Democrats’ US tour gathers support in fight against Trump: ‘Get angry, man’

    Community impact hearings offer outlet for grievances and gather evidence for ongoing lawsuits, totaling 10 so far
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    Yeah the press isn’t reporting on it much but reps (especially GOP but even some Dems who are being perceived as weak) are getting killed in their town halls. Even GOP reps in deep red areas. People can tell that Trump isn’t doing the people any favors - just his billionaire buddies. And he is breaking laws left and right.
     

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