What happens to the Democratic Party now? (1 Viewer)

[Heathen]

I’m sure much of us are having 2016 flashbacks this morning with a sick feeling to our stomachs..

2 of the last 3 elections Democrats have lost to a far right demagogue

Harris didn’t get close in many states to even Biden’s performance. We could very well lose the Presidency, Senate AND House depending on results the next few days…..

What went wrong?
What could’ve been done better?
What can we change in the future to ensure voters are motivated like they were when Obama was elected?

Democrats have no choice but to admit there’s a huge problem with some aspect of their platform— and to do a deep introspection of what’s going wrong..

 

[horse2H5]

A more urgent question is - When did the republicans stop carring about the law? How could they vote for someone who was a convicted fellon? And who had a jurys verdict that he committed a sexual assault ?

I am not going to allow you to whataboutism. We can talk about that topic at a different time. The article was posted that America was terrible because we did not vote in the best candidate in history since hillary. Instead of realizing the candidate was terrible and so are the policies she tried to espouse. When one fails they should always look in the mirror not point fingers.

 

[Dragon]

I am not going to allow you to whataboutism. We can talk about that topic at a different time. The article was posted that America was terrible because we did not vote in the best candidate in history since hillary. Instead of realizing the candidate was terrible and so are the policies she tried to espouse. When one fails they should always look in the mirror not point fingers.

That is not whataboutism- The topic of this thread is why the democrats lost. They lost because people voted for a convicted fellon. So why did they do that ?

 

[horse2H5]

That is not whataboutism- The topic of this thread is why the democrats lost. They lost because people voted for a convicted fellon. So why did they do that ?

1. Because we were better off with him than the administration Harris was second in charge of.
2. Conservative Blacks found a voice
3. Social media was not controlled by the left
4. Conservative voices were on a level playing field.
5. People like Charlie Kirk infiltrated the campuses and exposed the liberal left

I can go on for a while if you would like.

 

[bird]

How about Kamala was a horrible candidate. If y'all would stop making excuses and look at the real problem. It wasn't that the country will not elect a women, just not that particular unelectable woman. Now you can list whatever qualifications you want, in 2020 the Democrat party did not nominate her when she was running for the top of the ticket. As a matter of fact the electorate was clear, your party did not want her. She was one of the least popular of all of the candidates.

She was chosen as VP because of being a minority woman. (this was joes words not mine). Joe left y'all in this predicament. Don't blame WHITE MEN! We are not monolithic. Be mad a Joe, that is the white man that caused this landslide. OR blame democrats who did not vote for her, why is always someone else's fault?

Bullschlitz, pure and simple. She was, is and always will be smarter than your false god. Look into the percentage of Latino and Black men who voted for your false god who hates Latinos and Blacks just so they wouldn’t have a woman president. The Reactionary theocratic Party is anti-American and so insecure in their manhood that they can’t abide a woman being president.

 

[bird]

1. Because we were better off with him than the administration Harris was second in charge of.
2. Conservative Blacks found a voice
3. Social media was not controlled by the left
4. Conservative voices were on a level playing field.
5. People like Charlie Kirk infiltrated the campuses and exposed the liberal left

I can go on for a while if you would like.

More Bullschlitz.

Charlie Kirk is a complete idiot incapable of exposing anything except, perhaps himself.

Conservative voices have the conservative media backing them. There is no such thing as the liberal media. Rush Limbaugh admitted that.

Actually, the Republican Party is not conservative and hasn’t been for decades. They are a reactionary party that is virulently anti-democracy and as such anti-American.

Social media is controlled by libertarian azzhats who, on occasion, diddle the Republican Party. Neither Zuckerberg nor Eloon is capable of rational, political thought.

They voteds for Trump because they are stupid, period. He is an imbecile incapable of understanding nuance and geopolitics. Putin, Kim, Xi, Orban and Erdogan play him like a fiddle. You support a false god.

 

[Dragon]

More Bullschlitz.

Charlie Kirk is a complete idiot incapable of exposing anything except, perhaps himself.

Conservative voices have the conservative media backing them. There is no such thing as the liberal media. Rush Limbaugh admitted that.

Actually, the Republican Party is not conservative and hasn’t been for decades. They are a reactionary party that is virulently anti-democracy and as such anti-American.

Social media is controlled by libertarian azzhats who, on occasion, diddle the Republican Party. Neither Zuckerberg nor Eloon is capable of rational, political thought.

They voteds for Trump because they are stupid, period. He is an imbecile incapable of understanding nuance and geopolitics. Putin, Kim, Xi, Orban and Erdogan play him like a fiddle. You support a false god.

They voted for him because he validated their fears and encouraged them to hate anyone who didn’t look or think like them. He capitalized on their grievances and offered scapegoats for their frustrations. Throughout history, hate has always been an easier sell than unity. Convince people they’re superior to others, and they’ll find comfort and power in looking down on those they’re told to blame.

Just look at all the posts about "blacks" and "LBGT" on the board recently...

 

[J-DONK]

1. Because we were better off with him than the administration Harris was second in charge of.
2. Conservative Blacks found a voice
3. Social media was not controlled by the left
4. Conservative voices were on a level playing field.
5. People like Charlie Kirk infiltrated the campuses and exposed the liberal left

I can go on for a while if you would like.

The same way covid doomed Trump in 2020, inflation, or the perception of it - doomed Biden.

P.S. Before anyone chirps up, Harris never seperated herself from the adminstration.

Anytime a conserative starts talking about the "leftist media". Remember they are talking about AT&T, Comcast, CBS, Disney, and Viacom. Meanwhile, actual leftist progressives have almost zero media influence outside of social media.

 

[horse2H5]

The same way covid doomed Trump in 2020, inflation, or the perception of it - doomed Biden.

P.S. Before anyone chirps up, Harris never seperated herself from the adminstration.

Anytime a conserative starts talking about the "leftist media". Remember they are talking about AT&T, Comcast, CBS, Disney, and Viacom. Meanwhile, actual leftist progressives have almost zero media influence outside of social media.

Are you saying the abc cbs of the world is more aligned with MAGA than it is with the left?

You are right about the social media. The 2020 election was controlled by tech. Twitter, facebook et all were all in against trump and anyone who agreed with him were silenced. 2024 they didn't have that. In 2028 it will be even worse for the "left" because Zuck has been redpilled as well. Heck we even have the guy from the young turks. He WOKE up lol

 

[horse2H5]

Barack agrees she was a horrible candidate (parody)

 

[J-DONK]

Are you saying the abc cbs of the world is more aligned with MAGA than it is with the left?

You are right about the social media. The 2020 election was controlled by tech. Twitter, facebook et all were all in against trump and anyone who agreed with him were silenced. 2024 they didn't have that. In 2028 it will be even worse for the "left" because Zuck has been redpilled as well. Heck we even have the guy from the young turks. He WOKE up lol

Let me show you how ridiculous you sound:

Are you saying mega corporations align more with MAGA then pro-labor parts of the left? There will never be Lina Khan under Trump, or any Republican adminstration.

Trump will never do this:

Petitions for union representation doubled under Biden's presidency, first increase since 1970s

There has been a doubling of petitions by workers to have union representation during President Joe Biden’s administration.

apnews.com

There was no mass censoring of conseratives on twitter or facebook.

Why does the right have such a strong persecution fetish?

 

[horse2H5]

Let me show you how ridiculous you sound:

Are you saying mega corporations align more with MAGA then pro-labor parts of the left? There will never be Lina Khan under Trump, or any Republican adminstration.

Trump will never do this:

Petitions for union representation doubled under Biden's presidency, first increase since 1970s

There has been a doubling of petitions by workers to have union representation during President Joe Biden’s administration.

apnews.com

There was no mass censoring of conseratives on twitter or facebook.

Why does the right have such a strong persecution fetish?

Musk bought twitter and admitted there was mass suppression. Zuckerberg went to congress and admitted to censoring on behalf of the administration. The rules changed on social media and so did the results.

Heck this website seems to have had the same type of suppression. (I went to the beginning of threads). The bullying by the left was incredulous during the run up to 2020 across all platforms. Do you really want me to provide evidence of this? Dragon, you are a moderator. How many conservatives have been banned from this site? How many liberals? Of course the numbers should be virtually identical.

I have no idea why you are posting a video about unions somehow refuting mass media being 100% liberals. I guess they just are not left enough.

 

[J-DONK]

Musk bought twitter and admitted there was mass suppression.

The twitter files came out, and it was a massive dud. Republicans were making the same takedown request as Democrats.

Zuckerberg went to congress and admitted to censoring on behalf of the administration. The rules changed on social media and so did the results.

You need to cite this. Are you referring to vaccine misinformation being censored? Really?

Heck this website seems to have had the same type of suppression. (I went to the beginning of threads). The bullying by the left was incredulous during the run up to 2020 across all platforms. Do you really want me to provide evidence of this? Dragon, you are a moderator. How many conservatives have been banned from this site? How many liberals? Of course the numbers should be virtually identical.

I have no idea why you are posting a video about unions somehow refuting mass media being 100% liberals. I guess they just are not left enough.

There are conseratives on this site, they just aren't hardcore MAGA. Most of the MAGA types end up breaking rules, or just come here to troll. That's not censorship. That's not being able to follow basic rules.

 

[horse2H5]

The twitter files came out, and it was a massive dud. Republicans were making the same takedown request as Democrats.



You need to cite this. Are you referring to vaccine misinformation being censored? Really?



There are conseratives on this site, they just aren't hardcore MAGA. Most of the MAGA types end up breaking rules, or just come here to troll. That's not censorship. That's not being able to follow basic rules.

Republicans may have requested, but the suppression was all one way.

Not only did zuck talk about covid in congress, but recently on Rogan he talked about DEI, Biden laptop etc. being sensored.

Who are the conservatives here?

 

[MT15]

Of course the numbers should be virtually identical.

Only if both sides are willing to follow the rules. But what has been demonstrated over and over is that MAGAs are incapable of civil discussion on here. They peddle lies and when called out for them they become insulting.

You’ve already been a bit that way with your snide TDS comments. It seems that people who idolize a bully who cannot refrain from schoolyard taunts aren’t really fit company for a message board that wants to uphold standards for a civil discussion.

Or are you going to pretend the folks who got banned didn’t deserve it? Andrus, who runs this board, is not a liberal, it is generally his decision who stays and who goes.

 

[MT15]

Republicans may have requested, but the suppression was all one way.

No it wasn’t. That is simply untrue. You’ve been misled.

 

[horse2H5]

Only if both sides are willing to follow the rules. But what has been demonstrated over and over is that MAGAs are incapable of civil discussion on here. They peddle lies and when called out for them they become insulting.

You’ve already been a bit that way with your snide TDS comments. It seems that people who idolize a bully who cannot refrain from schoolyard taunts aren’t really fit company for a message board that wants to uphold standards for a civil discussion.

Or are you going to pretend the folks who got banned didn’t deserve it? Andrus, who runs this board is not a liberal, it is generally his decision who stays and who goes.

I see many posters on the left in the 2 threads that I read that were very insulting, yet they still post. I don't know andrus, but I can't imagine the owner running off traffic. That doesn't make much sense, but I don't own the site. Maybe he is wealthy and this is his guilty pleasure.

You think I have been insulting? If saying TDS is alive is an insult, can you imagine being a conservative.

 

[horse2H5]

No it wasn’t. That is simply untrue. You’ve been misled.

So the owners of the companies are lying. Got it.

Elon Musk and Twitter Reach Deal for Sale

Elon Musk struck a deal on Monday to buy Twitter for roughly $44 billion, in a victory by the world’s richest man to take over the influential social network frequented by world leaders, celebrities and cultural trendsetters.Twitter agreed to sell itself to Mr. Musk for $54.20 a share, a 38...

madaboutpolitics.com

Just read this thread. All of you admit to suppression via how upset you are by what is allowed now on X.

 

[MT15]

I see many posters on the left in the 2 threads that I read that were very insulting, yet they still post. I don't know andrus, but I can't imagine the owner running off traffic. That doesn't make much sense, but I don't own the site. Maybe he is wealthy and this is his guilty pleasure.

You think I have been insulting? If saying TDS is alive is an insult, can you imagine being a conservative.

Saying someone is deranged is indeed an insult. Wonder why you think it isn’t.

Read the TOS. You can disagree with someone’s views - call the ideas untrue or false or silly or dumb. But that’s different than insulting the person. When you say someone is suffering from TDS it is a personal insult.

The moderation here doesn’t have a hair trigger, but it does work.