What happens to the Democratic Party now?

[SystemShock]

Yes, it is the National Review channel, but, yet again, for the nth time, forget about what the presenter says (although he doesn't say anything that is not true), and listen what the representatives of the DSA say in the embedded clips, which do not come from right wing sites.

This is what the Democrats are getting in bed with. They can't even call the Cuban government a dictatorship, even go as far as praising the "democratic process' in Cuba.

 

[MT15]

This is the kind of propaganda that the GOP and their media cohorts are pumping out about one person, Mamdani.

 

[SystemShock]

Not every post is about you, dear.

Well, my bad... you could have the courtesy of telling me you were referring to someone else, but that's too much to ask here, dear.

It'd also be nice if you had the courtesy to tag the poster you are talking about.

 

[SystemShock]

That's a lot of words for not really saying anything.

Right back at ya?

I guess you can search for your goldilock candidate and support them.

It's not like that. If the Democrats continue to go further and further from center, I am done voting against my interests.

We need a massive correction to the left in this country.

Sure, but no so far left that we end up in Mao/Lenin territory, with our new Islamic overlords.

We're so far to the right in this country on extreme capitalism, authoritarianism, kakistocracy that we're about to fall off the chart. Whatever it is that you think is ideal, isn't not going to work. It's what's already failed us.

No, it has not. I don't think it has ever been put in place in the U.S.

We can't just simply go back in time. We need a new direction and new solutions and the only ones that are leading the charge on that are DSA candidates.

But it is not a new direction, is it? That direction has been tried multiple times, and the results have not been good.

Let's not be under any delusions that DSA candidates, if elected, are going to be the majority or really have control. Whatever their more radical policies are will not take hold. But they can push Democrats to act with more urgency and strength because constituents are demanding real change and force a change in leadership (which is desperately needed for Democrats). If so, we will be better for it. I'll support any candidate talking about real issues and real solutions.

That's what most thought of MAGA and pre-MAGA (Tea Party). Look where we are now.

BTW, I love how your trashing Mexico's IMSS (which I know very little about), but even as you describe it, it sounds better than what we have.

I am not trashing anything. Facts are facts.

You're making the case for universal healthcare. The reason they're not beholden to the insurance companies is because of the universal healthcare. They've removed an inflationary cost on healthcare. We can do it and not run out of pediatric cancer drugs. I'm sure there are many models we can follow to do that.

One of the reasons we are not beholden to the insurance companies, is that even private healthcare isn't that expensive that a medical emergency bankrupts you.

 

[Dragon]

Please take this discussion to the healthcare thread where it belongs. I am moving the posts right now