Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

 

[LA - L.A.]

I’m entirely ready for that discussion- though I think it’s very similar to those who self-brand as ‘Christian’ - it’s a label without actual meaning at this point since the overwhelming majority of ‘Christians’ do not practice Christian values
Same with ‘conservative’

All labels lack any practical meaning and purpose other than to get us to stop seeing individuals for who they are individually and to divide ourselves into separate groups to fight each other.

If it's meaningless to self-label, then it's even more meaningless to label others in judgement. That doesn't mean people will stop engaging in such meaningless behavior.

 

[LA - L.A.]

"There are several posters here who consider themselves conservative. They vocally opposed Trump. They don't post all the radical and fanatical crap that's on Parlor and other social media outlets, in fact they denounce it."

And I promise you the VAST majority voted for him again. Those people are just as responsible and complicit as the crazies. Recognizing something is objectively wrong and STILL choosing it doesn't make one anything other than a supporter.

Is there a reason you quoted my post the way you did?

How can you promise anyone how other posters here voted?

Most self-proclaimed conservative posters on this site publicly stated they voted for Biden. Are you saying the vast majority of those posters here lied?

That's a heck of a accusation to make.

 

[LA - L.A.]

... I can find 74+ million conservatives who voted to create and/or enable this debacle ...

You can find 74+ million people who voted for Trump. It's your assumption they were all conservative and that no conservatives voted for Biden.

It would seem that In your mind voting for Trump makes someone a conservative and voting for Biden makes them not a conservative. I think it's a mistakenly simplistic view of people.

 

[Dragon]

So complete whacko Lin Wood says that tomorrow, Trump will us the EBS to put the United States on martial law. Of course this probably isn't true because Lin Wood has completely lost his forking mind.

I hope someone still takes this serious enough to take precations because it is clear that nothing is off the table for Trump and the House is going to try to impeach him tomorrow too so given his previous history I would be very, very prepared.

 

[Eeyore]

Insurrection leader Charlie Kirk?

Charlie Kirk deletes tweet saying he sent '80+ buses full of patriots' to D.C.

The tweet was made just two days before rioters stormed the Capitol.

www.dailydot.com

 

[superchuck500]

 

[wardorican]

So complete whacko Lin Wood says that tomorrow, Trump will us the EBS to put the United States on martial law. Of course this probably isn't true because Lin Wood has completely lost his forking mind.

Faith? He doesnt go to church and isnt remotely religious.

 

[wardorican]

This is frightening. I hope they can find out who these guys are.

Looks similar to what the retired AF lt. Colonel was wearing.

 

[wardorican]

Not smiling now, huh?

 

[GMRfellowtraveller]

All labels lack any practical meaning and purpose other than to get us to stop seeing individuals for who they are individually and to divide ourselves into separate groups to fight each other.

If it's meaningless to self-label, then it's even more meaningless to label others in judgement. That doesn't mean people will stop engaging in such meaningless behavior.

Generally we’re talking about group identity here
Your point about self-identify is true but immaterial

 

[Dragon]

Dont underestimate Stupid. Trump may just have done that and AJ may have been smart enought to record it or save messages...

 

[efil4]

Dont underestimate Stupid. Trump may just have done that and AJ may have been smart enought to record it or save messages...

Alex would never turn states evidence. He would lose his revenue stream instantly.

 

[Xeno]

The Q wingnuts are convinced that the power outage in Pakistan, a power outage in the Vatican (there was no power outage in the Vatican) and the Eiffel Tower going dark (which it does at 1:00AM every day) are connected and mean Trump's about to begin his purge.

 

[SystemShock]

You can find 74+ million people who voted for Trump. It's your assumption they were all conservative and that no conservatives voted for Biden.

It would seem that In your mind voting for Trump makes someone a conservative and voting for Biden makes them not a conservative. I think it's a mistakenly simplistic view of people.

I have many other adjectives in mind for people who voted for Trump, which I think are more descriptive, but if I were to post them, they'd be deleted by an admin.

But I tell you what: why don't you find the breakdown of Trump voters, and you tell me how many of them consider themselves conservatives? That way, I can quote the exact number of conservatives who voted for Trump.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Watching the Sunday shows this morning is infuriating. If I hear one more Republican say “nobody could have seen this coming” I’m going to throw something at the TV. Everyone who didn’t have their heads ear deep in Trump’s anus saw this coming. We’ve been screaming it from the mountain tops since 2012. We’ve been screaming through Jade Helm, birtherism, Q Anon, Sandy Hook conspiracies, and all 4 years of Trump’s rhetoric that you can’t LIE to people and scare them like this and expect them not to react.

A major focus of the media the last 4 years has been the radicalization of the right. State houses were stormed and a plot to kidnap and put a governor on trial was stopped. EVERYONE SAW THIS shirt COMING!

 

[MT15]

Not smiling now, huh?

I’m glad they have arrested him and all, but he’s not (or shouldn’t be) the main concern. I hope the FBI is working on the real terrorists, the guys who came to conduct kidnappings and possibly hangings or mass executions. Someone on Twitter said there are “tourists” and “terrorists” involved. We should definitely arrest and charge the tourists, but we can’t lose sight of the fact that there were also serious people who were attempting to overthrow the government. They had the full backing of the president, and a yet undetermined number of other federal employees and officials. It was pre-planned, and we got pretty damn lucky they didn’t succeed.

This isn’t aimed at you, ward, hope it doesn’t come off that way. Just frustrated that our elected officials don’t seem to be acting fast enough, or with nearly enough unity in the face of this coordinated attack.

 

[MT15]

A little more urgency from our elected officials would be appreciated, as Watson says in his second tweet, we are still in the crisis.




just saw on Twitter that a Capitol Policeman has committed suicide. He was assigned to the Senate. Another terrible tragedy.

 

[Incumbent]

Noting as it relates to tracking this event.

Off-duty Death of USCP Officer Howard Liebengood

The United States Capitol Police is deeply saddened by the off-duty death on January 9, 2021, of Officer Howard Liebengood, age 51. He was assigned to the Senate Division, and has been with the Department since April 2005. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family, friends, and colleagues...

www.uscp.gov