Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Not to change the subject, but as a huge Animaniacs fan this is amazing.

Slightly off topic: For the longest time in my 20s, my voicemail was something recorded by Rob Paulsen and Maurice LaMarche as Pinky and the Brain.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Reason 2,678,546 to hate entitled arrogant butthead Josh Hawley. His book contract was canceled by the publisher because of the negative publicity he generated when he played his little sedition game. Ivy League lawyer calls it a straight up assault on the First Amendment, , maybe he paid someone to take his bar?

So, I guess he's going full in to becoming the new liar in chief, way to go.

 

[Neworleansfan]

Gov. Hogan of MD is calling for Trump to resign or to be removed from office. Apparently, one of the congressman from MD called and asked him to send the national guards but he couldn’t get authorization. Finally, 1 1/2 hour later, the Sec. of the Army called and asked him to send troop.

Maryland Gov. Hogan Calls for President Trump's Removal

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican who has often levied criticism against Trump, called for the president to leave or be removed from office.

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[CoolBrees]

Hawley again is playing to his idiot base.

S&S is a private company they can print or not print anything they choose. If the bought the manuscript they can shelve it for eternity. It has nothing to do with the First Amendment.

but he knows that

 

[Goatman saint]

On his speech. What adult wrote that and put it in front of him?

 

[Optimus Prime]

I would love to see the unedited version of this insincere bs, you know he rambled on and on again about how the election was stolen from him more than once before he started reading again. I noticed at least two edit points during that speech.

What I want to see is footage of him watching the capitol siege in real time

Something tells me his reaction was different than what he said in that canned speech

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Bruh...I'm calling BS on all of this...so now Betsy DeVos wants to resign?!?!? lady...we wanted your arse gone 4 years ago!

Trump’s Education Secretary Betsy DeVos submits resignation | CNN Politics

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos has submitted her resignation, saying President Donald Trump’s role in spurring the mob that breached the US Capitol on Wednesday was “the inflection point,” making her the second Cabinet member to resign over the incident.

www.cnn.com

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Bruh...I'm calling BS on all of this...so now Betsy DeVos wants to resign?!?!? lady...we wanted your arse gone 4 years ago!

Trump’s Education Secretary Betsy DeVos submits resignation | CNN Politics

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos has submitted her resignation, saying President Donald Trump’s role in spurring the mob that breached the US Capitol on Wednesday was “the inflection point,” making her the second Cabinet member to resign over the incident.

www.cnn.com

Man, when you’re such scum that you lose Betsy DeVos it may be time for some soul searching. That’s like your house being so nasty one of the people from Hoarders won’t come in.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Man, when you’re such scum that you lose Betsy DeVos it may be time for some soul searching. That’s like your house being so nasty one of the people from Hoarders won’t come in.

Yeah, but what is the point of resigning now? 13 days to go and NOW you've seen too much? Seriously, who is looking at all of these resignations and saying "man that's some honorable stuff going on right there, they're quitting their jobs on principle"? Pretty sure no one at this point and if they do think its honorable, they should really think about what this is really doing, allowing a true sycophant interim to slide in and really mess some stuff up.

We're about to see how much damage can be done in 13 days...this is like evicting a meth addict from your rental property.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Reason 2,678,546 to hate entitled arrogant butthead Josh Hawley. His book contract was canceled by the publisher because of the negative publicity he generated when he played his little sedition game. Ivy League lawyer calls it a straight up assault on the First Amendment, , maybe he paid someone to take his bar?

He did use the “word” IRREGARDLESS on national television last night.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

I don’t know about honorable, but man, inciting a mob that attacked and desecrated the seat of American democracy is not a minor infraction. Yesterday was one of the most heinous moments in American history. I can understand looking in the mirror after that and saying enough is enough.

Should they have done it sooner? Absolutely, but we all know they are people of little or no moral character. Still, I won’t chide anyone who says yesterday was their breaking point. I’ve had a lot of days I was disgusted with Trump. Yesterday was the first time I was seething with anger.

 

[Xeno]

Yeah, but what is the point of resigning now? 13 days to go and NOW you've seen too much? Seriously, who is looking at all of these resignations and saying "man that's some honorable stuff going on right there, they're quitting their jobs on principle"? Pretty sure no one at this point and if they do think its honorable, they should really think about what this is really doing, allowing a true sycophant interim to slide in and really mess some stuff up.

We're about to see how much damage can be done in 13 days...this is like evicting a meth addict from your rental property.

He surrounded himself with people dumber than him because he can't stand anyone smarter than him. They think this lets them save face. Joke's on them though because the kind of person who thinks that way wants Trump gone and knows all of these people supported him through everything. Anyone else is a noodle brain magat that sees this as treason. They'd realize that if they weren't dumber than Trump himself.

The bright side of this is he may not have anyone left to carry out an illegal order for him if they all resign.

 

[JRad]

He did use the “word” IRREGARDLESS on national television last night.

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that angered haha

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Slightly off topic: For the longest time in my 20s, my voicemail was something recorded by Rob Paulsen and Maurice LaMarche as Pinky and the Brain.

That’s awesome.. Years ago i met, and briefly worked with, the guy who played Lumberg in Office Space (also played the dad in the Brady Bunch movie, etc) Gary Cole.. He was cool so i asked him if he wouldnt mind recording my voicemail greeting as Lumberg, and he obliged: “Mmm, yeeeaaaahhh.. Mr Blue Sky isnt available at the moment so I’m gonna have to go ahead and ask you to leave a message, mmmkay? That’d be great...“ That was my voicemail greeting for years.



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[DJ1BigTymer]

Reason 2,678,546 to hate entitled arrogant butthead Josh Hawley. His book contract was canceled by the publisher because of the negative publicity he generated when he played his little sedition game. Ivy League lawyer calls it a straight up assault on the First Amendment, , maybe he paid someone to take his bar?

Saw this response and thought it was perfect:

 

[cuddlemonkey]

That’s awesome.. Years ago i met, and briefly worked with, the guy who played Lumberg in Office Space (also played the dad in the Brady Bunch movie, etc) Gary Cole.. He was cool so i asked him if he wouldnt mind recording my voicemail greeting as Lumberg, and he obliged: “Mmm, yeeeaaaahhh.. Mr Blue Sky isnt available at the moment so I’m gonna have to go ahead and ask you to leave a message, mmmkay? That’d be great...“ That was my voicemail greeting for years.



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I love Gary Cole.

 

[Xeno]

Saw this response and thought it was perfect:

That melted even my cold, black heart.

I can't imagine the magats felt this good in 2016.

edit: I'm being reminded of the episode of South Park where Cartman inherits $1mil. He buys an amusement park and bans anyone from coming. Kyle, seeing how happy Cartman is, develops a terminal hemmorrhoid. But Cartman soon has to hire people for security and maintenance meaning he has to let people into the park to pay them which makes him miserable. He returns the amusement park and gets his $1mil back from the previous owner only to have the feds show up and take it all for back taxes and Kyle gets better.

Kinda feels like there are some parallels there

 

[LA - L.A.]

Man, when you’re such scum that you lose Betsy DeVos it may be time for some soul searching. That’s like your house being so nasty one of the people from Hoarders won’t come in.

I'm finding it disappointing that so many people can't see what seems so obvious.

I doubt anyone forced Trump to give his speech. I don't doubt it was written for him. I think he chose to gave his speech today, because the only clear message in the speech was to condemn the assault yesterday and on the record say that he did not want what happened yesterday. He did the speech today to create reasonable doubt if he's ever charged with sedition or inciting a riot.

Everyone that is resigning right now are not resigning because they think Trump went to far. They all knew this was coming and stuck around. They are resigning, because the seditious assault didn't work. They are resigning in case they are investigated or charged. They are also creating reasonable doubt in case they need it. They can defend themselves by saying "I knew nothing, I saw nothing, I heard nothing and after it happened I quit."

It's all just so obvious when you consider the historical behavior and motivations of every single one of them. Self-enrichment and self-preservation is all they care about. Trump threw his supporters who stormed the Capitol under the bus today not to avoid being removed from office 13 days early. He did it to try to avoid being charged and convicted of sedition.

Everyone else who is resigning is doing it for the same reason.