Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

 

[CoolBrees]

Traitor Babbit should lose his citizenship for being married to that trash.

I spit on her grave.

 

[MT15]

Never forget what MAGA did. Traitorous scum. He deleted this tweet.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Discovery will not be kind to her or her family. I’ve seen the video she made where she was ranting like a madwoman before she went to DC and threatening violence. I also don’t see how you can call it an ambush when she was moving through the window toward the Reps and police.

And if I remember the story correctly, her husband was the one who radicalized her.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

 

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[MT15]

Someone else who should be charged.

 

[MT15]

Should be in prison, throw away the key.

 

[Eeyore]

Christian pastor: God is going to start killing FBI agents who arrested Jan 6 rioters – DeadState

deadstate.org

 

[J-DONK]

I still wonder what they would have done to Pence if they caught him.

 

[MT15]

I still wonder what they would have done to Pence if they caught him.

Good question. There were plenty who were in a crazed state. They certainly tried to kill some of the police officers - Fanone could have easily died from what they did to him.

Secret Service would have killed as many as they could, I suppose. But several guys with handguns aren’t going to stop a mob.

 

[Optimus Prime]

In the three years to the day since the insurrection at the US Capitol, great strides have been made in shoring up American democracy: hundreds of rioters have been prosecuted, legislation has been passed to bolster electoral safeguards and Donald Trump has been charged over his efforts to subvert the 2020 election.

But as the country marks the third anniversary of one of its darkest days in modern times, a pall hangs in the air. It comes from Trump himself and his promise, growing steadily louder as the 2024 presidential election approaches, that if he wins he will pardon those convicted of acts of violence, obstructing Congress and seditious conspiracy on 6 January 2021.

The scope of Trump’s pardon pledge is astonishing both for its quantity and quality. The former president has made clear that – should he be confirmed as the Republican presidential candidate and go on to triumph in the November election – he would contemplate pardoning every one of those prosecuted for their participation in the insurrection.

Last May he reposted on his Truth Social platform the slogan: “Free all J-6 political prisoners”. A few months earlier he told a rightwing website that “we’ll be looking very, very seriously at full pardons”.

A total or near-total pardon would encompass hundreds of cases. The US Department of Justice has conducted what it describes as the largest investigation in its history following the storming of the Capitol building and has so far secured almost 900 convictions either at trial or through guilty pleas.

About 350 cases are still ongoing.

Then there is the quality. Trump has specifically threatened to pardon Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the extremist group the Proud Boys who with 22 years in prison has received the longest sentence yet handed down for the insurrection.

Tarrio was found guilty of seditious conspiracy. Though he was not present in the Capitol compound on 6 January 2021, prosecutors presented evidence that he had helped coordinate the storming of the building and on the day itself had sent encouraging messages on social media.

The judge at his sentencing, Timothy Kelly, said he was sending a strong message: “It can’t happen again,” he said.

In September Trump told NBC News that he would “certainly look at” pardoning Tarrio. “He and other people have been treated horribly … They’ve been persecuted.”

Jamie Raskin, the Democratic congressman from Maryland, said that Trump’s pledge to pardon rioters showed that “January 6 never ended. Today is January 6.”

Speaking at an event on Friday organised by End Citizens United and Let America Vote in advance of the third anniversary, Raskin, who was present at the Capitol as the riot unfolded and who went on to lead the second impeachment of Trump following the upheaval, lamented how the former president wanted to set convicted criminals free. “Trump is out there saying he’s going to pardon people who engaged in political violence, who bloodied and wounded and hospitalized 150 of our officers.”

Raskin added that Trump’s threat should be taken seriously. “We better believe him. I mean, he pardoned Roger Stone, a political criminal; he pardoned Michael Flynn, his disgraced former national security adviser,” he said. “Now he wants to pardon the shock troops of January 6, so he will have this roving band of people willing to commit political violence and insurrection for him – how dangerous is that?”

As NPR has noted, anyone pardoned by Trump for felonies arising from 6 January 2021 would be entitled to legally own guns once more.……

‘January 6 never ended’: alarm at Trump pardon pledge for Capitol insurrectionists

The ex-president has said he would pardon those convicted of violence, obstructing Congress and seditious conspiracy

www.theguardian.com

 

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[Optimus Prime]

I still wonder what they would have done to Pence if they caught him.

It was a crazed mob, I don’t wonder that

I don’t wonder what would have happened if they found Pence, Pelosi, AOC, Romney, Schumer etc.

What I do wonder if that would changed anything afterwards

After the beatings and/or murders of members of Congress, senators or the vice president would Trump still be leading in the polls as he is now?

Would he have been impeached?

Would public (read Republican) attitudes about that day change? Anyone still claim it was just a tour that went wrong? Would they still call the participants “patriots”?

Does that change anything at Fox, Newsmax, OAN?

How does Right wing social media respond? With horror or glee?

Would charges against Trump take until 2023 to materialize or do things move much faster?

Those are the things I wonder about

Not about what is the mob came across congress members, especially those they recognize

To me that’s a given

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

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[fooferdoggie]

Money? I doubt it just another lie.

 

[MT15]

So I am reading that Jack Smith is getting or has gotten testimony about the Trump tweets on Jan. 6. Only 2 people supposedly had access to Trump‘s Twitter: Trump himself and Dan Scavino. I think Scavino wrote this one - about being peaceful and not hurting law enforcement. Scavino has denied the other one - “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage…”.