Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (4 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

 

[Optimus Prime]

not sure where to put this
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(Reuters) - A sheriff in Barry County, Michigan, already under state investigation for alleged involvement in an illegal breach of a vote-counting machine, sought warrants in July to seize other machines in an effort to prove former President Donald Trump’s claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election, documents reviewed by Reuters showed.

The proposed warrants sought authorization to seize vote tabulators and various election records from the offices of the Barry County and Woodland Township clerks, the documents showed. The two jurisdictions have not been previously identified as targets in the sheriff’s investigation into suspicions that machines in the county were rigged to siphon votes from Trump.

The warrants were submitted in July to the office of Barry County Prosecuting Attorney Julie Nakfoor Pratt, a Republican, who told Reuters she declined to endorse them because she felt the sheriff lacked sufficient evidence to support his suspicions that the machines were rigged.

Reuters obtained copies of the documents under a Freedom of Information request filed with the prosecutor’s office...........

Michigan sheriff sought to seize multiple voting machines, records show

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[superchuck500]

 

[FullMonte]

So, a sixth grade class in Florida had a take home sheet titled “How Does A Historian Work.” The sheet covered several topics, including bias. Here is how they covered bias.

The media is often biased and will add words that persuade you to think one way or another. Read these two statements made by reporters after the 2020 election.

President Trump made claims that the 2020 election was stolen.

President Trump made false claims that the 2020 election was stolen.

The first sentence is just giving you information, while the second leads you to believe he is wrong before you have all the facts.

Yeah…because we don’t have all the facts to show he was wrong.

How the Big Lie Ended Up in a Sixth-Grade Classroom in Florida

Photo Illustration by Thomas Levinson/The Daily Beast/Getty/School District of Manatee CountyToday’s lesson is how the Big Lie made it onto a world history study sheet handed out by a substitute teacher in the sixth grade at the R. Dan Nolan Middle School in Bradenton, Florida, on Wednesday.It...

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[Optimus Prime]

A judge has ordered that a county official in New Mexico is “barred for life” and “constitutionally ineligible” to hold public office after he was convicted for his role in the attack on the US Capitol.

Otero County Commissioner Couy Griffin – a founder of “Cowboys for Trump” – will be removed from office, effective immediately, according to the court’s order on 6 September.

Griffin was convicted on misdemeanor charges for his role in the Capitol riots on 6 January, 2021, and he recently refused to certify local election results, relying on debunked conspiracy theories about voting machines, fuelled by spurious legal challenges and false narratives from Donald Trump and his allies.

District Court Judge Francis J Mathew determined that Griffin is disqualified from office under Section 4 of the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, holding that any person who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” or gave “aid or comfort” to insurrectionists is disqualified from holding public office.

The judge’s order – the first in more than 100 years that a court has disqualified a public official from holding office – followed a lawsuit filed by a group of New Mexico residents...........

‘Cowboys for Trump’ founder removed from office and ‘barred for life’ for participating in Capitol riot

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[DaveXA]

A judge has ordered that a county official in New Mexico is “barred for life” and “constitutionally ineligible” to hold public office after he was convicted for his role in the attack on the US Capitol.

Otero County Commissioner Couy Griffin – a founder of “Cowboys for Trump” – will be removed from office, effective immediately, according to the court’s order on 6 September.

Griffin was convicted on misdemeanor charges for his role in the Capitol riots on 6 January, 2021, and he recently refused to certify local election results, relying on debunked conspiracy theories about voting machines, fuelled by spurious legal challenges and false narratives from Donald Trump and his allies.

District Court Judge Francis J Mathew determined that Griffin is disqualified from office under Section 4 of the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, holding that any person who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” or gave “aid or comfort” to insurrectionists is disqualified from holding public office.

The judge’s order – the first in more than 100 years that a court has disqualified a public official from holding office – followed a lawsuit filed by a group of New Mexico residents...........

‘Cowboys for Trump’ founder removed from office and ‘barred for life’ for participating in Capitol riot

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Good, need more of these idiots to be barred from holding office.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Good, need more of these idiots to be barred from holding office.

One in particular

 

[Optimus Prime]

Tucker Carlson on Monday sought to gloss over the deadly Capitol insurrection spurred by a would-be authoritarian’s election lies by calling it an “election justice protest.”....

Tucker Carlson Tries Out a New Name for the Capitol Riot

 

[MT15]

Scary, if true

 

[MT15]

Don’t see this on the news yet, hope it’s true.

 

[DaveXA]

Don’t see this on the news yet, hope it’s true.

I'm curious to see how much is uncovered there.

 

[Taurus]

I'm curious to see how much is uncovered there.

I'll be interested in what they had to do to get them. That'll say a lot about whether they were casually deleted as part of a routine process or if they were deliberately hidden.

 

[DaveXA]

I'll be interested in what they had to do to get them. That'll say a lot about whether they were casually deleted as part of a routine process or if they were deliberately hidden.

Definitely. Hopefully that info will be released, but I'd be surprised if it happens.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol Thursday released walkie talkie communications from the far-right group Oath Keepers on the day of insurrection.

In the audio, the group says that former President Donald Trump did not tell the rioters to "stand down" when he tweeted to support Capitol police amid the attack.

At about 2:30 p.m. on Jan. 6, 2021, Trump tweeted "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!"

The House Jan. 6 committee tweeted Thursday said that the released walkie talkie communication was between some members of the Oath Keepers who were at the Capitol, and some who were monitoring intelligence elsewhere.

In the recording, a member of the Oath Keepers read the tweet and said, "That's saying a lot. But what he didn't say, he didn't say not to do anything to the congressmen."

There is laughter, and then another person said, "Well, he did not ask them to stand down. He just said to stand by the Capitol Police.".............

Jan. 6 committee releases Oath Keepers' reaction to Trump tweet during attack

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[DaveXA]

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol Thursday released walkie talkie communications from the far-right group Oath Keepers on the day of insurrection.

In the audio, the group says that former President Donald Trump did not tell the rioters to "stand down" when he tweeted to support Capitol police amid the attack.

At about 2:30 p.m. on Jan. 6, 2021, Trump tweeted "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!"

The House Jan. 6 committee tweeted Thursday said that the released walkie talkie communication was between some members of the Oath Keepers who were at the Capitol, and some who were monitoring intelligence elsewhere.

In the recording, a member of the Oath Keepers read the tweet and said, "That's saying a lot. But what he didn't say, he didn't say not to do anything to the congressmen."

There is laughter, and then another person said, "Well, he did not ask them to stand down. He just said to stand by the Capitol Police.".............

Jan. 6 committee releases Oath Keepers' reaction to Trump tweet during attack

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Yeah, so I guess for them "stay peaceful" was euphemism for "kick their arses".

 

[Optimus Prime]

The document is so dowdy and formal it resembles the annual minutes of a society of tax accountants. Its index lists sections on “objectives” and “rules of engagement” and carries an “addendum” that provides recommendations for hotels and parking.

On the cover, two words give a clue to the notoriety of the group that produced it: “MAGA” and “WARNING”. That and the date: 5 January 2021, the day before the US Capitol attack.

What goes unsaid on the cover and is barely mentioned throughout the 23 pages is that this is the work of one of the most violent political gangs in America, the far-right street fighters who Donald Trump told to “stand back and stand by”: the Proud Boys.​

The document, published by the Guardian for the first time, gives a very rare insight into the meticulous planning that goes into events staged by the far-right club.

The Proud Boys have been designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and are alleged to have acted as key organizers of the violent assault on the Capitol.

In the wake of January 6, which has been linkedto the deaths of nine people, the New York march featured in the document was called off and the strategy so fastidiously laid out was never implemented. But the document remains sharply revealing.

It shows the lengths to which the Proud Boys go to prepare for potentially violent encounters and then to cover their tracks – something prosecutors have stressed but that has never been seen in the group’s own words. It exposes the militaristic structure and language the Proud Boys have adopted, and their aspiration to become the frontline vigilante force in a Trump-led America.

It also provides clues as to how the group continues to spread its tentacles throughout the US despite the fact that many of its top leaders, including its national chairman, Enrique Tarrio, are behind bars awaiting trial on charges of seditious conspiracy…….

Proud Boys memo reveals meticulous planning for ‘street-level violence’

Document of 23 pages shows the lengths to which the far-right group goes to prepare for potentially violent encounters and exposes the militaristic structure and language it has adopted

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

These idiots are just terrible people. Imagine thinking it’s a great idea to cripple a suicide hotline for veterans.

 

[DaveXA]

These idiots are just terrible people. Imagine thinking it’s a great idea to cripple a suicide hotline for veterans.

Terrible indeed.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

This could go into several threads, but this one seems the most relevant. How soon before Meadows is facing charges? Or can he avoid them by flipping on Trump?

Meadows texts reveal direct White House communications with pro-Trump operative behind plans to seize voting machines

As allies of then-President Donald Trump made a final push to overturn the election in late-December 2020, one of the key operatives behind the effort briefed then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows about his attempts to gain access to voting systems in key battleground states, starting...

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