Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (1 Viewer)

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superchuck500

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I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.


 

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Trying to rewrite what happened on Jan 6th is just as shameful as what happened on Jan 6th
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History, the adage goes, is written by the victors.


Would that it were true.


In the Civil War, the U.S. Army, at a staggering human cost, eventually crushed the traitors who took up arms against their own country.

But Lost Cause mythology rewrote the rebellion as a conflict over states’ rights, portrayed Confederates as gallant heroes fighting impossible odds, romanticized plantation life and sanitized slavery.

The fictions, taught to generations of southerners, fueled Jim Crow and white supremacy.


In the retelling of Jan. 6, we see an echo of Lost Cause mythology.

On that terrible day, terrorists took up arms against the United States, sacking the seat of the U.S. government in a deadly rampage. White supremacists marauded through the Capitol.

It was a coup attempt, aimed at overturning the will of the people with brute force, encouraged by a defeated president and his allies.

The Capitol Police and D.C. Metropolitan Police, badly outnumbered, ultimately prevailed in putting down the insurrection.


But now the losers are trying to rewrite the history of that day. The terrorists were “patriots.” Theirs was a “normal tourist visit.” They weren’t armed. They were “hugging and kissing” the police.

A woman, shot as she breached the last barrier keeping elected representatives from the mob, was a martyr shot in cold blood. The Capitol Police were ill-trained. It was Nancy Pelosi’s fault.


The losers, again, are trying to write the history.

They must not be allowed to succeed — for if they do, they will certainly try again to attack democracy…….

 
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I don't know if this was mentioned already

Donald Trump pressured top justice department officials to falsely claim that the 2020 election was corrupt so he and his allies in Congress could subvert the results and return him to office, according to newly released memos.

“Just say that the election was corrupt [and] leave the rest to me,” Trump told the former acting attorney general, Jeffrey Rosen, and his deputy, Richard Donoghue, the memos showed. The notes were taken by Donoghue, who documented a 27 December call with Trump and Rosen.

(and also this)

An Arizona state senator has called for members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors to be imprisoned after they condemned the county's widely criticized election audit, and objected to related subpoenas.

 
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Oh, and Jeffrey Rosen has given testimony on Capitol Hill today. He seems eager to cooperate in the investigation into Trump‘s and Clarke’s attempts to steal the election.
 

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Here is a nice timeline. Trump thought he could use the DOJ to steal an election he lost. This is worse than what Nixon did.

 

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Also, from further reading, Trump decided on Jan. 3 that DOJ would be in charge of the federal response to the Jan. 6 rally, and they basically did nothing. 🤔
 

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from Robert Reich
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We’ve become so inured to Donald Trump’s proto-fascism that we barely blink an eye when we learn that he tried to manipulate the 2020 election. Yet the most recent revelation should frighten every American to their core.

On Friday, the House oversight committee released notes of a 27 December telephone call from Trump to then acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen, in which Trump told Rosen: “Just say the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R congressmen.” The notes were taken by Richard Donoghue, Rosen’s deputy, who was also on the call.

The release of these notes has barely made a stir. The weekend news was filled with more immediate things – infrastructure! The Delta strain! Inflation! Wildfires! In light of everything else going on, Trump’s bizarre efforts in the last weeks of his presidency seem wearily irrelevant. Didn’t we already know how desperate he was?

In a word, no. This revelation is hugely important.

Rosen obviously rejected Trump’s request. But what if Rosen had obeyed Trump and said to the American public that the election was corrupt – and then “left the rest” to Trump and the Republican congressmen? What would Trump’s and the Republicans’ next moves have been? And which Republican congressmen were in cahoots with Trump in this attempted coup d’état?

Make no mistake: this was an attempted coup.

Trump knew it. Just weeks earlier, then attorney general William Barr said the justice department had found no evidence of widespread fraud that could have overturned the results.

And a few days after Trump’s call to Rosen – on 2 January – Trump told Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, to “find” votes to change the election outcome. He berated Raffensperger for not doing more to overturn the election.............

There’s another important line in those notes.

The notes show that Trump said that the Georgia legislature “is on our side.” That makes the Ga phone call so much more important.
 

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The founder and administrator of an obscure website about underground infrastructure in Washington, D.C., saw a sudden and suspicious spike in traffic in the days before the U.S. Capitol insurrection.

The sharp increase in web visitors alarmed the site’s operator so much that he contacted the FBI. Elliot Carter, who operates the site, worried people were covertly seeking escape routes or entry points to the Capitol ahead of the electoral college count in January.

That concern about web traffic to WashingtonTunnels.com eventually made its way to leadership of U.S. Capitol Police, the News4 I-Team has learned.

“These people were suddenly obsessed with the Capitol building,” Carter said.
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Traffic on the website is usually limited to visitors and referrals from people in D.C. and in nearby communities in Virginia and Maryland, Carter said. But starting on New Year’s Day, a spike in traffic included visitors nationwide. He said a deeper review of analytics from his site revealed many of the clicks were coming from hyperlinks shared on anonymous message boards, sites and forums named after militias or firearms, or using Donald Trump’s name

Man that sounds an awful lot like what terrorists would be doing leading up to their attack.
 

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Man that sounds an awful lot like what terrorists would be doing leading up to their attack.
Stupid terrorists who didn’t even use a VPN when plotting their attacks, but yea. Terrorists.
 

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There are at least thousands of guys out there like this on the edge just waiting for a sign. Others will eventually see a video or read something that they assume is their go signal.
 

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