Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

 

[MT15]

I posted that there are 81 cases.. read up

so post them. All you have done is post from a dubious source. Post the cases, they are available on the web if they actually exist.

 

[jitss617]

It's certainly possible.

A anti Trumper signs a sworn affidavit risks going to jail.. level 10 tds

 

[jitss617]

Trumps message was simply a kangaroo court of firing up the public for donations and the odd chance that someone he appointed into the judiciary would violate every ethic and moral code and go along with it.
Here’s the key thing. His lawyers, used loosely, were going around and publicly preaching fraud and such. But when they got into a court, and were subject to the rules of court, notice how their verbiage changed completely. If they actually had the evidence they said they did, would they have changed how they worded everything once they got into a court setting? Doubtful.

Has Trump come out and said anything? Link?

 

[jitss617]

so post them. All you have done is post from a dubious source. Post the cases, they are available on the web if they actually exist.

For what? If you don’t believe then just move on

 

[DaveXA]

Witness under oath.. pay attention

You do realize witnesses can be unreliable? And they can be coerced or misled, even under oath?

And seriously, you need to read the other myriad threads here discussing the issues you've brought up here. It's been hashed and rehashed ad nauseum. I'm not interested in relitigating old, debunked posts and articles. Have a nice day.

 

[jitss617]

You do realize witnesses can be unreliable? And they can be coerced or misled, even under oath?

And seriously, you need to read the other myriad threads here discussing the issues you've brought up here. It's been hashed and rehashed ad nauseum. I'm not interested in relitigating old, debunked posts and articles. Have a nice day.

This place is the gem of tds lol everyone is lying that disagrees with me lol haha

 

[wardorican]

Lol that fact checker suffers from major tds check out her Twitter hah Saranac Hale Spencer

Fine, here's what the CISA has to say on it, which is what I quoted. The author's bias has nothing to do with a direct quote.

Election Security Rumor vs. Reality | CISA

www.cisa.gov

Reality: Voter registration list maintenance and other election integrity measures protect against voting illegally on behalf of deceased individuals.

Rumor: Votes are being cast on behalf of dead people and these votes are being counted.

Get the Facts: State and Federal laws prohibit voter impersonation, including casting a ballot on behalf of a deceased individual. Election officials regularly remove deceased individuals from voter registration rolls based on death records shared by state vital statistics agencies and the Social Security Administration. While there can be some lag time between a person’s death and their removal from the voter registration list, which can lead to some mail-in ballots being delivered to addresses of deceased individuals, death records provide a strong audit trail to identify any illegal attempts to cast ballots on behalf of deceased individuals. Additional election integrity safeguards, including signature matching and information checks, further protect against voter impersonation and voting by ineligible persons.

In some instances, living persons may return mail-in ballots or vote early in-person, and then die before Election Day. Some states permit such voters’ ballots to be counted, while others disallow such ballots and follow procedures to identify and reject them during processing.

Taken out of context, some voter registration information may appear to suggest suspicious activity, but are actually innocuous clerical errors or the result of intended data practices. For example, election officials in some states use temporary placeholder data for registrants whose birth date or year is not known (e.g., 1/1/1900, which makes such registrants appear to be 120 years old). In other instances, a voting-age child with the same name and address as their deceased parent could be misinterpreted as a deceased voter or lead to clerical errors.

Useful Sources

• 18 U.S.C. § 1708
• 52 U.S.C. §§ 10307(c), 20507, 20511(2), 21083(a)(2)(A)
• Mail-in Voting Integrity Safeguards, CISA
• Mail-in Voting 2020 Risk Assessment, CISA
• Election Infrastructure Security, CISA
• Election Security, DHS
• The National Voter Registration Act of 1993: Questions and Answers, DOJ
• Election Mail Information Center, USPS
• Your local or state election officials. EAC state-by-state directory
• Maintenance of State Voter Registration Lists, NASS
• What If an Absentee Voter Dies Before Election Day?, NCSL
• Voter List Accuracy, NCSL
• Link directly to this rumor by using: https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol#rumor21

 

[MT15]

For what? If you don’t believe then just move on

You're the one making these absurd claims about 80 some court cases and sworn witness testimony about massive voter fraud. You cannot prove any of it, can you?

 

[DaveXA]

For what? If you don’t believe then just move on

Lmao, when you're asked to post the 81 cases, which if true, would be easily verifiable, your response is to move on? Lol. Well done.

 

[Complex Kid]

This place is the gem of tds lol everyone is lying that disagrees with me lol haha

https://i.gifer.com/N2V4.gif

 

[SystemShock]

I guess some of you are just itching for a debate, and I'll admit, it has had its funny moments, but come on, man!
Two on a row now

 

[FullMonte]

Ok let’s work with what you posted..
1. Did some ppl leave in that video? Yes or no?

Yes, that is not in dispute. It is even directly stated in the video that "Media and observers left as employees packed up."

I am waiting for your evidence that they were told to leave. (Just in case you were going to mention it, I'll point out that Georgia law is pretty clear on this. Observers are allowed to be present during counting. But, nothing in the law says that observers are required to be there. So, if the observers left because they thought the employees were done counting, that's on them.)

 

[donato]

I think it's time we came clean guys. Yes, the election was stolen, and almost everyone on this board was in on it. So what? That makes us winners and Trump MAGA cucks losers. Biden is president. Suck it!

 

[nolaspe]

Lol, by eve

This place is the gem of tds lol everyone is lying that disagrees with me lol haha

Shhhhh, don't anyone tell him about the super secret double probation forum we use to discuss our favorite activity of eating children in pizza parlors while doing shots of adrenochrome and singing 'Hail to the Chief' to dear leader Killary in our fashionably comfy all-black antifa track suits and BLM face masks, or that this past month, we awarded Medals of Freedom to the dead bodies that voted and our fearless members who stormed the Capitol dressed as drumpflakes and planted the pipe bombs outside the DNC/RNC...

 

[jitss617]

Lol, by eve

Shhhhh, don't anyone tell him about the super secret double probation forum we use to discuss our favorite activity of eating children in pizza parlors while doing shots of adrenochrome and singing 'Hail to the Chief' to dear leader Killary in our fashionably comfy all-black antifa track suits and BLM face masks, or that this past month, we awarded Medals of Freedom to the dead bodies that voted and our fearless members who stormed the Capitol dressed as drumpflakes and planted the pipe bombs outside the DNC/RNC...

Would you be interested in participating in a TDS study? You will be rewarded with sanity lol

 

[jitss617]

Yes, that is not in dispute. It is even directly stated in the video that "Media and observers left as employees packed up."

I am waiting for your evidence that they were told to leave. (Just in case you were going to mention it, I'll point out that Georgia law is pretty clear on this. Observers are allowed to be present during counting. But, nothing in the law says that observers are required to be there. So, if the observers left because they thought the employees were done counting, that's on them.)

I wounded what would have made them all think the counting was over lol haha

 

[FullMonte]

I wounded what would have made them all think the counting was over lol haha

Oh, it's quite clear. There is a video that shows them all deciding that since Biden is overwhelmingly winning the state, there is no reason for them to remain, so they left.

Am I doing it right? I just make a crazy claim and say I've got video evidence to back it up?

 

[wardorican]

A anti Trumper signs a sworn affidavit risks going to jail.. level 10 tds

Have you read his affidavit?

http://www.pacourts.us/assets/files/setting-7896/file-10836.pdf?cb=d7f3cc

So, I don't think he is lying, I think he just doesn't know where it is, since it's not outside of the bounds to have trailers switched. Drivers don't just drive one trailer.

and the whole lead up was that he was waiting for 6 hours at Harrisburg, got into a fight with the supervisor and ended up having to drive somewhere else. Looks like a logistics screw up.

So, nothing of what he said would seem to be perjury. However, it also doesn't prove anything.