Trump loyalists in Congress to challenge Electoral College results in Jan. 6 joint session (Update: Insurrectionists storm Congress)(And now what?) (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

I guess it's time to start a thread for this. We know that at least 140 members of Congress have pledged to join the objection. Under federal law, if at least one member of each house (HOR and Senate) objects, each house will adjourn the joint session for their own session (limited at two hours) to take up the objection. If both houses pass a resolution objecting to the EC result, further action can take place. If both houses do not (i.e. if one or neither passes a resolution), the objection is powerless and the college result is certified.

Clearly this is political theater as we know such a resolution will not pass the House, and there's good reason to think it wouldn't pass the Senate either (with or without the two senators from Georgia). The January 6 joint session is traditionally a ceremonial one. This one will not be.

Many traditional pillars of Republican support have condemned the plan as futile and damaging. Certainly the Trump loyalists don't care - and many are likely doing it for fundraising purposes or to carry weight with the fraction of their constituencies that think this is a good idea.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

 

[MT15]

This ceremony at the Rotunda is moving. Officer Sicknick’s remains were brought to lie in honor.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

i can’t wait to see this scene in the inevitable HBO Max movie.

They need to greenlight this yesterday!!!

 

[Booker]

If the Democrats have a lick of sense, they will call all the people mentioned in that story to testify before the Senate.

It actually makes Trump (somewhat) look like he was being misled and taken advantage of just like the people at his rally. He surely wanted to believe that he really won, and it comes across like he surrounded himself with people who kept telling him what he wanted to hear until he was convinced it was true.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Wasn't sure what thread to put this in - article from SE Cupp on reaction to AOC's video about Jan 6th.

"Shocked but not surprised" is a phrase I've been reading, hearing and thinking a lot lately

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On Monday night, nearly a month after Trump-supporting insurrectionists stormed the U.S. Capitol looking to overturn a democratic election and, in some cases, kill U.S. lawmakers, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez took to Instagram Live to share her harrowing account of that day.

Traumatized not only by the close encounter with people who were there to harm her but also the PTSD she suffers as a result of a previous sexual assault, Ocasio-Cortez said that as she hid in another congresswoman’s office, she thought she was going to die.

“I felt that if this was the journey that my life was taking, that, I felt that things were going to be OK, and that, you know, I had fulfilled my purpose.”

She was inarguably right to be terrified. Terrorism was, in part, the goal of the Capitol insurrection. Last month, in fact, a 34-year-old Texan named Garret Miller was arrested for taking part in the riot, and posting violent threats online, including a tweet that simply said, “Assassinate AOC.”

But to the many on the right who have told her and other Democrats to “move on” from those events, Ocasio-Cortez says they were “using the same tactics of every other abuser who just tells you to move on.” Just a cursory scroll through Twitter in the wake of her powerful testimony proves her point.

“This is a masterclass in emotional manipulation,” says journalist Michael Tracey.

“Only AOC can make the Capitol riots all about herself,” tweets Breanna Morello.

“Members of congress lie, including AOC. Especially AOC,” says Austin Petersen.

“All this tells us is that AOC is not emotionally prepared to be in Congress or any other form of leadership. She wants to be coddled,” according to RBPundit.

Sadly, this is not surprising. In the ugly, divisive and tribal political hellscape in which we are currently living, AOC is a reviled figure on the right, ergo we shouldn’t expect even the revelation that she’d been sexually assaulted, or that she was fearing for her life on Jan. 6, cowering in a closet and wondering aloud if she’ll live to be a mother one day — to be met with basic decency or empathy by some hardened partisans who see only enemy avatars, not actual people.............

S.E. Cupp: Spit on for revealing her trauma: Bitter, partisan reactions to AOC are proof American politics has lost its way (msn.com)

 

[MT15]

Why say American politics has lost its way, though? Say what is real. Say the Republican Party has lost its way, or say that the far right has lost its way.

i get tired of this intentional vagueness. Say what’s real.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Why say American politics has lost its way, though? Say what is real. Say the Republican Party has lost its way, or say that the far right has lost its way.

i get tired of this intentional vagueness. Say what’s real.

both sides have lost their way?

 

[DaveXA]

This ceremony at the Rotunda is moving. Officer Sicknick’s remains were brought to lie in honor.

Fox was showing the ceremony live this morning. Must be a separate one?

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Fox was showing the ceremony live this morning. Must be a separate one?

Yep. FOX probably decided to show it after the initial backlash from last night.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Soooo...About Lin Wood's voter fraud complaints:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/03/lin-wood-georgia-voter-fraud/

On Monday, the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office confirmed to CNN it is investigating whether Wood was a legal resident of the state when he cast his ballot in the Nov. 3 presidential election. The news was first reported by WSB-TV.
The inquiry was prompted by an email Wood allegedly sent a WSB-TV reporter stating that he had been living in South Carolina for “several months” after buying a home there in April, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s office told the Atlanta TV station.

 

[Taurus]

Soooo...About Lin Wood's voter fraud complaints:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/03/lin-wood-georgia-voter-fraud/

That's dedication, to commit voter fraud in order to prove voter fraud.

 

[MT15]

both sides have lost their way?

yes, she is implying both sides, but I don’t see it that way. It’s basically the Republican Party that has embraced nutty conspiracy theories and lost their way. The press is so paranoid about sounding biased that they imply every crazy thing Rs do belong to both sides. I’m getting tired of it.

 

[B4YOU]

Exclusive: U.S. mulls using law designed to prosecute Mafia against Capitol rioters

The U.S. Justice Department is considering whether to charge members of far-right groups involved in the deadly Jan. 6 storming of the Capitol under a federal law usually used against organized crime, according to two law enforcement sources.

www.reuters.com

“RICO was designed to address the Godfather - the person who doesn’t get their hands bloody,” said Jeffrey Grell, an attorney who specializes in RICO law. “You would really only use RICO to go after the kingpins or the leaders.”

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Weird, he sounds like how McCarthy sounded as he explained his caucus' decision regarding MTG.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Supporters still holding out hope for overturning the election
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Noor bin Laden—the far-right niece of notorious terrorist leader Osama bin Laden—is urging fellow supporters of President Donald Trump to stay loyal to the former commander in chief, drawing on QAnon conspiracy theories to claim that President Joe Biden's electoral victory will soon be overturned..............

Trump-Supporting bin Laden Niece Tells Followers Election Result 'Will Be Reversed' (msn.com)

 

[bdb13]

Supporters still holding out hope for overturning the election
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Noor bin Laden—the far-right niece of notorious terrorist leader Osama bin Laden—is urging fellow supporters of President Donald Trump to stay loyal to the former commander in chief, drawing on QAnon conspiracy theories to claim that President Joe Biden's electoral victory will soon be overturned..............

Trump-Supporting bin Laden Niece Tells Followers Election Result 'Will Be Reversed' (msn.com)

Don't trust the Trumps or Bin Ladens would seem to be sage advice, but what the hell do I know.

 

[brandon]

yes, she is implying both sides, but I don’t see it that way. It’s basically the Republican Party that has embraced nutty conspiracy theories and lost their way. The press is so paranoid about sounding biased that they imply every crazy thing Rs do belong to both sides. I’m getting tired of it.

Only one side says "both sides."

 

[wardorican]

Supporters still holding out hope for overturning the election
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Noor bin Laden—the far-right niece of notorious terrorist leader Osama bin Laden—is urging fellow supporters of President Donald Trump to stay loyal to the former commander in chief, drawing on QAnon conspiracy theories to claim that President Joe Biden's electoral victory will soon be overturned..............

Trump-Supporting bin Laden Niece Tells Followers Election Result 'Will Be Reversed' (msn.com)

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