The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (3 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    All six of the states Trump tried to steal have done the right thing. Even if they somehow went rogue it only shrinks Biden’s victory total.

    So that is the popular vote, the electoral college, state and federal court, and the Supreme Court all gave zero credence to another term for Trump.

    All that nonsense. And it got 60 defeats in court and zero votes changed- except adding to Biden’s win in Wisconsin.

    You have to be dumber than a bag of hammers to think this thing was stolen.

    ETA- Changed due to Michigan voting correctly too
     
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    the latest in a long line of "it's okay when we do it"
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    President Trump and many other Republican officials spent much of this year characterizing anti-racism protesters as “violent demonstrators” who put the safety of Americans at risk. But this past weekend’s gatherings of Trump supporters backing the president’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election show that violence is an ongoing concern at these protests — one that the president and many GOP leaders have chosen to ignore..................

    Trump, who often portrayed liberal protesters as ‘thugs,’ is silent on violence among his supporters (msn.com)
     
    Trump knows he faces prison and will do everything in his power to prevent it. He will let this country go to hell to stay out of prison or go bankrupt (the real kind, not the keep all my money and not pay what I owe kind). Rest assured that he will sell secrets as well. There is nothing he won't do. NOTHING.
     

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