The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (13 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    Is it official now...?

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    Of course not. Congress is going to throw out Biden electors from PA, MI, AZ and NV and pick the Republican electors dontchaknow :rolleyes:
     
    Trump knows he faces prison and will do everything in his power to prevent it. He will let this country go to hell to stay out of prison or go bankrupt (the real kind, not the keep all my money and not pay what I owe kind). Rest assured that he will sell secrets as well. There is nothing he won't do. NOTHING.


    This is what i keep screaming, yet people seem to be relaxing like it’s all a done deal... This loser one-term POTUS still has 4 or 5 weeks to wreak havoc.. as ive said before, as hard as it is to think like Trump- if you were Trump, dont you think you’d do anything to keep from losing power and (almost assuredly) going to Federal PMITA prison? My one hope is that he’s just arrogant enough to think that ‘they’ll never get me’, even though they most certainly will.
     
    the latest in a long line of "it's okay when we do it"
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    President Trump and many other Republican officials spent much of this year characterizing anti-racism protesters as “violent demonstrators” who put the safety of Americans at risk. But this past weekend’s gatherings of Trump supporters backing the president’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election show that violence is an ongoing concern at these protests — one that the president and many GOP leaders have chosen to ignore..................

    Trump, who often portrayed liberal protesters as ‘thugs,’ is silent on violence among his supporters (msn.com)
    Of course they have ignored these protests by Trump supporters, because these are white people committing mayhem. When you're a white supremacist piece of crap, blacks are not allowed to protest and if they do, they are thugs.

    Good riddance, Trump
     
    The same folks screaming to "Destroy the GOP" will continue to vote straight Republican, but they will now expect those candidates to be even crazier and divorced from reality (and it seems the majority of existing GOP "leaders" are happy to comply).
    I would not be surprised if the GOP splinters over the Trump debacle. There will be those few with a shred of decency (though I can't name any) who will leave and form a centrist party. At least I hope so, I'd love the see the GOP self-immolate :)
     

    He should be upset. This is beyond stupid now.
     

    He should be upset. This is beyond stupid now.

    Trump isn't going to concede for multiple reasons.

    First, and most importantly, his fragile ego and Daddy issues won't allow it. He was always treated like an idiot by Fred (he is) and winning was always emphasized. To lose is to prove Fred right. His ego can't take that, which is why he always has to claim fraud whenever he loses at anything.

    Second, this is a cash cow for him. They have raised well over 200 million and spent 8 million. He's never seen margins like this from any business venture. As long as money is coming in he'll keep the "we've not yet begun to fight" nonsense going.

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    Trump isn't going to concede for multiple reasons.

    First, and most importantly, his fragile ego and Daddy issues won't allow it. He was always treated like an idiot by Fred (he is) and winning was always emphasized. To lose is to prove Fred right. His ego can't take that, which is why he always has to claim fraud whenever he loses at anything.

    Second, this is a cash cow for him. They have raised well over 200 million and spent 8 million. He's never seen margins like this from any business venture. As long as money is coming in he'll keep the "we've not yet begun to fight" nonsense going.

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    The nimrods enabling him are worse than he is, and bothers me just as much. People can't ever read past the slop they read on FB or wherever they get their godemperorTrump news of the day.
     
    He's right. Now there is a stupid hashtag of #BidenWillNeverBePresident trending because of this:



    There's a lot of stupid shirt happening these days.

    I think my favorite is the MAGA class-action suit against Betfair for determining yesterday to close the election wager and pay Biden bets (thanks MT for the lead). 😂


     
    There's a lot of stupid shirt happening these days.

    I think my favorite is the MAGA class-action suit against Betfair for determining yesterday to close the election wager and pay Biden bets (thanks MT for the lead). 😂



    That is hilarious. And while I'm here, y'all take a look at the guy who discovered "voter fraud" in MI. This is his rationale for what constitutes fraud:

     

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