The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (3 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    Ha! I didn’t see that, had to watch it again, big incel energy on that stage. 🤢
     

    I still stand by everything I said in that thread (much of which was based on an impeachment scenario, not an election loss). But generally speaking, the institutions that matter in this kind of political fight (the courts so far) have been loyal to the rule of law and Constitution, as is their function and their oath, and refused to engage in these delusions. And I don’t think anyone that matters in the military will either - no matter what “Diamond and Silk” tweet about.
     
    I still stand by everything I said in that thread (much of which was based on an impeachment scenario, not an election loss). But generally speaking, the institutions that matter in this kind of political fight (the courts so far) have been loyal to the rule of law and Constitution, as is their function and their oath, and refused to engage in these delusions. And I don’t think anyone that matters in the military will either - no matter what “Diamond and Silk” tweet about.

    i think that the really shocking part has been the Republican Party, though. Our only prior experience is the way the party responded to Nixon, and they generally came through there. Boy, did they fail this test.
     
    i think that the really shocking part has been the Republican Party, though. Our only prior experience is the way the party responded to Nixon, and they generally came through there. Boy, did they fail this test.

    Ford pardoning Nixon unfortunately set the precedent that the consequences for a corrupt and criminal president would end at being disgraced. It may have been a different time where that sort of thing actually mattered to people but it was terribly shortsighted and we can draw a straight line from today back to that decision. Nixon should have stood trial. Anyone taking the oath of office should be held to much higher standards.
     
    Ford pardoning Nixon unfortunately set the precedent that the consequences for a corrupt and criminal president would end at being disgraced. It may have been a different time where that sort of thing actually mattered to people but it was terribly shortsighted and we can draw a straight line from today back to that decision. Nixon should have stood trial. Anyone taking the oath of office should be held to much higher standards.
    You're not wrong.
     
    LSU is so bad that I'm looking forward to shenanigans on Twitter to keep me entertained tonight. Sigh...
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