The Joe Biden 2020 tracker thread (2 Viewers)

[Intensesaint]

A place for all the gaffs, slip-ups and overall outlandish things Democratic candidates will say or do in lead up to the 2020 Election.

 

[SystemShock]

Two things. Ebola was a pandemic?

You can get into that semantics battle, but yes, it fits the definition.

And kinda racist saying it was kept in Africa. I thought talking about virus's origin geographically wasn't PC.

So Joe is not that woke. What's the issue?

 

[Farb]

Well, for one thing, you literally were attacking a 'WoC' there.

The thing you should understand is that, while you may not be racist, or sexist, and her gender and ethnicity may be completely irrelevant to you, when you start an entire thread singling out a first-term congresswoman apparently because you don't like her and want to, for some reason, go public here with your dislike, and when you start calling her "a lunatic, and pretty stupid" in a thread about Joe Biden, you are absolutely hanging out with racists and sexists. It should not be surprising to you that your motivation for doing so is inevitably going to be questioned. It's a weird thing to do. You should be aware of that, not least by the absence of hundreds of other threads discussing other representatives in personal terms.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't talk about people because bigots do. It does mean you should have a good reason to do so if you don't want people to wonder what the heck you're doing. And "other people keep talking about her and I don't like her," is not a good reason, is it.


See, the thing is, he's the President. People will talk about the President. It is not unexpected for there to be a lot of discussions, and threads, about the President. Even then, they generally relate to specific things he's said and specific things he's done, and not, basically, "I think Trump's a moron, what do you think?" The very obvious reason why people are talking about him is because he's the President, and the very obvious reason he's 'more disrespected' is because of the things he says and does. So, for example, if the President nonsensically tells an Asian-American reporter to "ask China" at a White House briefing, and then abruptly leaves when asked about it, that's going to be talked about, and it's likely that discussion will not be respectful of the President, because when people with responsibility direct nonsense and bigoted responses towards people and then storm out, that's the kind of thing that loses them respect.

Now if Trump was a first term congressman, then it would be weird to have this much talk about him. But he isn't.

Similarly, in this thread, Joe Biden is a candidate for President. It's expected that there'll be a thread about him, where people will discuss things he's said and done, and even what he's like personally, because he's running to be President.

And we should probably get back to that, shouldn't we.

What about if he started his argument about AOC being an idiot by praising Condoleezza Rice or Nicki Haley's intelligence? Does that then play into racism some how too or does he get a pass like every other person that you agree with?
I would assume it does as there is always some tiny micro aggression that the tolerant seem to use when they don't have anything factual, just feels.
Maybe, and I am spit balling here, maybe he doesnt like her because of the policies she has? I would guess you guys don't like a couple of Reps because of their policies, not their race or sex, right? This is old, its tired and it just lazy and dumb.

And, how AOC relates to a thread about Biden:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/poli...campaign-task-force-climate-change/index.html

 

[The moose]

LOL, politicians can be criticized regardless of their race. We are entering a post racial world, where everyone has the opportunity to be called an idiot regardlessof ethnicity or whether they are male of female.

Not without talking about policy.

If her political views don't vibe with yours then discuss that instead of the nonsense of calling her stupid.

What about if he started his argument about AOC being an idiot by praising Condoleezza Rice or Nicki Haley's intelligence? Does that then play into racism some how too or does he get a pass like every other person that you agree with?
I would assume it does as there is always some tiny micro aggression that the tolerant seem to use when they don't have anything factual, just feels.
Maybe, and I am spit balling here, maybe he doesnt like her because of the policies she has? I would guess you guys don't like a couple of Reps because of their policies, not their race or sex, right? This is old, its tired and it just lazy and dumb.

And, how AOC relates to a thread about Biden:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/poli...campaign-task-force-climate-change/index.html

Now Nicki Haley's intelligence has never been in question.

She is a magician!

She is the only person to ever leave this administration in good standing. She is the only one to stand up to Trump and not get fired.

She is gonna pull the best magic trick next. When trump wants to drop pence after he starts to blame coronavirus results on him she will turn down the VP.

 

[Kiln]

This is old, its tired and it just lazy and dumb.

its so dam exhausting. I believe its the only tactic left in the bowl drawer.

 

[Kiln]

Not without talking about policy.

If her political views don't vibe with yours then discuss that instead of the nonsense of calling her stupid.

this is a serious question, not a gotcha. Do you really think that calling someone stupid is considered racist? if so please explain. I truly want to understand your logic.

 

[Beach Friends]

Not without talking about policy.

If her political views don't vibe with yours then discuss that instead of the nonsense of calling her stupid.



Now Nicki Haley's intelligence has never been in question.

She is a magician!

She is the only person to ever leave this administration in good standing. She is the only one to stand up to Trump and not get fired.

She is gonna pull the best magic trick next. When trump wants to drop pence after he starts to blame coronavirus results on him she will turn down the VP.

By that logic I couldn't say that Hank Johnson is stupid. You can't seriously want to take that away from me.

The man sat in front of cameras and grilled an admiral on the size of Guam because he was concerned that the island would tip over if too many Marines were stationed there. In case anyone is wondering, that's not how islands work.

I don't care what the man's race is, he is an idiot.

 

[coldseat]

What about if he started his argument about AOC being an idiot by praising Condoleezza Rice or Nicki Haley's intelligence? Does that then play into racism some how too or does he get a pass like every other person that you agree with?
I would assume it does as there is always some tiny micro aggression that the tolerant seem to use when they don't have anything factual, just feels.
Maybe, and I am spit balling here, maybe he doesnt like her because of the policies she has? I would guess you guys don't like a couple of Reps because of their policies, not their race or sex, right? This is old, its tired and it just lazy and dumb.

And, how AOC relates to a thread about Biden:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/poli...campaign-task-force-climate-change/index.html

I don't like Clarence Thomas because of his politics. I don't think he's stupid, in fact I think he's very smart. Smatter than I am. But I also know he's very, very wrong and the the decisions he makes on the supreme court hurt all of us. His brand of politics and legal rulings are caustic and detremental to our nation and tear down many of the gains and advances that have been made in terms of worker protections, coporate overreach and power, executive overreach and power, minority rights, police and legal reform, etc.

 

[Humperdoo]

Well, for one thing, you literally were attacking a 'WoC' there.

The thing you should understand is that, while you may not be racist, or sexist, and her gender and ethnicity may be completely irrelevant to you, when you start an entire thread singling out a first-term congresswoman apparently because you don't like her and want to, for some reason, go public here with your dislike, and when you start calling her "a lunatic, and pretty stupid" in a thread about Joe Biden, you are absolutely hanging out with racists and sexists. It should not be surprising to you that your motivation for doing so is inevitably going to be questioned. It's a weird thing to do. You should be aware of that, not least by the absence of hundreds of other threads discussing other representatives in personal terms.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't talk about people because bigots do. It does mean you should have a good reason to do so if you don't want people to wonder what the heck you're doing. And "other people keep talking about her and I don't like her," is not a good reason, is it.


See, the thing is, he's the President. People will talk about the President. It is not unexpected for there to be a lot of discussions, and threads, about the President. Even then, they generally relate to specific things he's said and specific things he's done, and not, basically, "I think Trump's a moron, what do you think?" The very obvious reason why people are talking about him is because he's the President, and the very obvious reason he's 'more disrespected' is because of the things he says and does. So, for example, if the President nonsensically tells an Asian-American reporter to "ask China" at a White House briefing, and then abruptly leaves when asked about it, that's going to be talked about, and it's likely that discussion will not be respectful of the President, because when people with responsibility direct nonsense and bigoted responses towards people and then storm out, that's the kind of thing that loses them respect.

Now if Trump was a first term congressman, then it would be weird to have this much talk about him. But he isn't.

Similarly, in this thread, Joe Biden is a candidate for President. It's expected that there'll be a thread about him, where people will discuss things he's said and done, and even what he's like personally, because he's running to be President.

And we should probably get back to that, shouldn't we.

No. I did not.
I still find it hard to fathom how me not believing a person to be qualified for their position is racist or sexist. Unless one is looking for that.
As I’ve stated before I know many people of al different creeds and colors that are both intelligent and not. It has zero to do with that to me.

As to your defense of the potus being attacked, is it ok to call him a moron, orange dude, idiot, terrible person, etc? And if so, and it obviously is as it’s allowed here regularly...then is that not a double standard?
Here ya go, I think Bush Jr. is slow. He’s a white make so does that make it ok for me to say? He’s not an ‘orange’ dude but he’s slow imo. That will probably be allowed to stand lol.

And don’t worry, I’ll be scarce from here on out, I’ve been deleted and warned enough to know my thoughts and such aren’t welcome here.

I hope you and yours stay well my friend.
Matter of fact I hope you all stay safe and well, no matter your political and societal leanings.

 

[Humperdoo]

in my opinion its never a good i idea to try and defend your statement/position to someone who weaponized the word "racism". It is usually their only defense mechanism when they feel mad, cornered, sad, hurt, happy, excited, joyful, gleeful etc. any answer defending yourself in never enough for them. They will just call you "racist" again. Usually these people have never experienced any sort of racism, ever. Its a cop out response, its pathetic and it should be ignored. Just my 2 cents.

You’re right.
It’s just a tad frustrating as I am the furthest thing from a racist and sexist. I just don’t see color, I see character. I don’t see male or female, I see character.
I only see these types of behaviors and thoughts here. I have a very diverse group of friends in my life, many of whom are ‘left’ and they don’t do this. I’m thankful for that.

We show tolerance towards one another and our differing views, we try to understand and open our own horizons, we show compassion etc.

I’ve not seen hate and bigotry in the real world as I see here over and over.
As was told to me tho, that’s the internet for you when it pertains to most things. So I guess it just is what it is.

 

[Savage]

LOL, politicians can be criticized regardless of their race. We are entering a post racial world, where everyone has the opportunity to be called an idiot regardlessof ethnicity or whether they are male of female.

I think the word you're looking for is inclusivity. Everyone should be able to be called stupid or a moron regardless of their sex, sexuality, or skin color. Can we all agree on that?

 

[Kiln]

You’re right.
It’s just a tad frustrating as I am the furthest thing from a racist and sexist.
I only see these types of behaviors and thoughts here. I have a very diverse group of friends in my life, many of whom are ‘left’ and they don’t do this. I’m thankful for that.

We show tolerance towards one another and our differing views, we try to understand and open our own horizons, we show compassion etc.

I’ve not seen hate and bigotry in the real world as I see here over and over.
As was told to me tho, that’s the internet for you when it pertains to most things. So I guess it just is what it is.

best to not engage with those types. They get a kick out of using a cheap tactic that you can refute. It shows how weak mentally people can be. its a group mentality thing. He or she saw some else use it so they pile on. Im am betting man and I bet calling people a racist only happens on forums. Never in person.

also notice how I never got a response to my question? I asked for clarification. Thats because there is none. I never expected and answer, not surprised.

 

[Beach Friends]

Im am betting man and I bet calling people a racist only happens on forums. Never in person.

Nailed it.

 

[SystemShock]

Im am betting man and I bet calling people a racist only happens on forums. Never in person.

I'll take that action.

 

[Kiln]

I'll take that action.

Do you call people racist while in your group or as a stand alone man? If you want the action then prove it to the forum.

let me fix my statement. Im sure it happens sometimes. Im betting the ones on this forum are probably not in that group

Here is your action, walk up to a random man your size and call him racist. Video it and post it.

You in? I will PayPal a longtime member on this forum $100 to hold. You do the same. Post the video by Friday of next week and the money is yours. Tell the camera you are Systemshock from this forum and what the bet is based on. Ive done this type of bet before. I have won and lost. PM to work out all the details.

 

[bdb13]

By that logic I couldn't say that Hank Johnson is stupid. You can't seriously want to take that away from me.

The man sat in front of cameras and grilled an admiral on the size of Guam because he was concerned that the island would tip over if too many Marines were stationed there. In case anyone is wondering, that's not how islands work.

I don't care what the man's race is, he is an idiot.

Sometimes I know I'm doing something right:

And mental capacity is an area where Trump supporters believe he has a distinct advantage over Biden... Instead he's on par with the dumbass who thought Guam was going to tip over.

 

[Humperdoo]

By that logic I couldn't say that Hank Johnson is stupid. You can't seriously want to take that away from me.

The man sat in front of cameras and grilled an admiral on the size of Guam because he was concerned that the island would tip over if too many Marines were stationed there. In case anyone is wondering, that's not how islands work.

I don't care what the man's race is, he is an idiot.

This cannot be true.

 

[SystemShock]

Do you call people racist while in your group or as a stand alone man? If you want the action then prove it to the forum.

let me fix my statement. Im sure it happens sometimes. Im betting the ones on this forum are probably not in that group

Here is your action, walk up to a random man your size and call him racist. Video it and post it.

Very funny, but that's not how it works. No one here is calling anyone a racist randomly. Someone said something first that someone else thought was racist, then made the accusation.

 

[Kiln]

Very funny, but that's not how it works. No one here is calling anyone a racist randomly. Someone said something first that someone else thought was racist, then made the accusation.

Thats what i thought. was your "ill take that action" just a joke? I have principles so I offered you the option to hold yours. Now prove you know without a doubt that person is actually racist. I'll wait