The Joe Biden 2020 tracker thread (1 Viewer)

[Intensesaint]

A place for all the gaffs, slip-ups and overall outlandish things Democratic candidates will say or do in lead up to the 2020 Election.

 

[Beach Friends]

I know she is sort of the "popular" pick right now, but I see a lot of logic in picking Stacey Abrams. Picking her takes Georgia from a state where Trump would have to invest a limited amount of resources to one where Trump really has to spend time and money. She could very well end up being enough to deliver Georgia to Biden.
Plus, I think her on the ticket doesn't hurt with getting important constituents of the Democratic coalition out to the polls across the country.
I don't think Harris really gives Biden much in terms of carrying a state or even delivering votes. Whitmer or Klobuchar could help deliver suburban voters, but more importantly - picking one of them would signify to me that Biden/Democrats are still worried about the midwest - which to me was one of the big selling points on Biden's electability. I don't think picking one of them really helps too much on that end (apart from the general appeal, to a limited extent, with suburban voters - particularly suburban women). Perhaps if polling really turns south in Minnesota or Michigan for Biden, one of them might make more sense to me.

Whitmer may end up hurting a ticket. Her arbitrary virus restrictions are pretty unpopular. The citizens are trying to force a recall vote and they may succeed.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I know she is sort of the "popular" pick right now, but I see a lot of logic in picking Stacey Abrams. Picking her takes Georgia from a state where Trump would have to invest a limited amount of resources to one where Trump really has to spend time and money. She could very well end up being enough to deliver Georgia to Biden.
Plus, I think her on the ticket doesn't hurt with getting important constituents of the Democratic coalition out to the polls across the country.
I don't think Harris really gives Biden much in terms of carrying a state or even delivering votes. Whitmer or Klobuchar could help deliver suburban voters, but more importantly - picking one of them would signify to me that Biden/Democrats are still worried about the midwest - which to me was one of the big selling points on Biden's electability. I don't think picking one of them really helps too much on that end (apart from the general appeal, to a limited extent, with suburban voters - particularly suburban women). Perhaps if polling really turns south in Minnesota or Michigan for Biden, one of them might make more sense to me.

I don't think Stacy is the pick. She's against everything that Biden has said he wanted in a VP. Her highest level of experience is at the Georgia state house.

I see the pick being Harris. I don't think that he will pick a senator from a state that could be lost to a Republican. As much as regaining the white House might be, having control of the Senate is critical.

 

[JimEverett]

I don't think Stacy is the pick. She's against everything that Biden has said he wanted in a VP. Her highest level of experience is at the Georgia state house.

I see the pick being Harris. I don't think that he will pick a senator from a state that could be lost to a Republican. As much as regaining the white House might be, having control of the Senate is critical.

That is a good point about the Senate - hadn't thought about that.

 

[The moose]

I don't think Stacy is the pick. She's against everything that Biden has said he wanted in a VP. Her highest level of experience is at the Georgia state house.

I see the pick being Harris. I don't think that he will pick a senator from a state that could be lost to a Republican. As much as regaining the white House might be, having control of the Senate is critical.

Yeah I agree about Stacy great but no real track record.

The pick is Warren that seat has only had one term with a republican in it since the beginning of time. That is Ted Kennedy's old seat. Yes got it in 62. One Dem was appointed when JFK became president. JFK held it from 53. So one republican since 53.

You have to go back to 1952 when it was held by a republican and that was only one term.

You have to go back to the 20's to find a two term republican. So that is three terms with a republican for what a hundred years?

That is just about as solid of a blue seat as you are gonna find ever.

If Warren becomes VP that seat will stay blue.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Yeah I agree about Stacy great but no real track record.

The pick is Warren that seat has only had one term with a republican in it since the beginning of time. That is Ted Kennedy's old seat. Yes got it in 62. One Dem was appointed when JFK became president. JFK held it from 53. So one republican since 53.

You have to go back to 1952 when it was held by a republican and that was only one term.

You have to go back to the 20's to find a two term republican. So that is three terms with a republican for what a hundred years?

That is just about as solid of a blue seat as you are gonna find ever.

If Warren becomes VP that seat will stay blue.

Warren has her age against her.

Plus the fact that she's campaigning for it doesn't help.

 

[Heathen]

I don't think she ever stood a chance, but accusing Bernie of being a sexist backfired. As did her silly statement about putting a child in charge of vetting a cabinet member. Her fake beer chugging. Her fake Indian heritage. Her questionable claim of being fired as a teacher.

Plus, and this may be the biggest issue, she is a terrible dancer.

I think it will be Kamala. She has shown she will do whatever it takes to further her political career. And I think Harris is a mistake too. She's a bad cop.

Warren has had some head scratching moments for sure. I do like her ability to sniff out corruption on certain issues, even if it's amidst being a hardline 'capitalist' herself. She wasn't my top choice, but folks at least somewhat on the left don't really have the luxury of a purity test in this day and age.

 

[Heathen]

I know she is sort of the "popular" pick right now, but I see a lot of logic in picking Stacey Abrams. Picking her takes Georgia from a state where Trump would have to invest a limited amount of resources to one where Trump really has to spend time and money. She could very well end up being enough to deliver Georgia to Biden.
Plus, I think her on the ticket doesn't hurt with getting important constituents of the Democratic coalition out to the polls across the country.
I don't think Harris really gives Biden much in terms of carrying a state or even delivering votes. Whitmer or Klobuchar could help deliver suburban voters, but more importantly - picking one of them would signify to me that Biden/Democrats are still worried about the midwest - which to me was one of the big selling points on Biden's electability. I don't think picking one of them really helps too much on that end (apart from the general appeal, to a limited extent, with suburban voters - particularly suburban women). Perhaps if polling really turns south in Minnesota or Michigan for Biden, one of them might make more sense to me.

It's an interesting proposition to think about. Democrats haven't done well in the South in many, many years. Increasingly, though, many Southern states with growing metros are becoming more crucial (Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia come to mind). I like Abrams but don't see as strong a relationship there as the others. Maybe I'm off base. Either way i think with still more than half a year until the election the Biden campaign would be smart to to announce his pick in the next month or so to try to get some energy and enthusiasm going.

 

[brandon]

As someone who has never cared who the VP nomination was in any election in my life, Warren as VP would make me way more satisfied in voting for Biden.

 

[The moose]

Great vid if you guys don't watch these guys you should they are a riot.

 

[V Chip]

Warren has had some head scratching moments for sure. I do like her ability to sniff out corruption on certain issues, even if it's amidst being a hardline 'capitalist' herself. She wasn't my top choice, but folks at least somewhat on the left don't really have the luxury of a purity test in this day and age.

I agree (well except for the "wasn't my top choice" part). All politicians have some head scratching moments -- some much more than others -- but to me unless it's egregious, I'm looking at their policies and platforms and plans to see which I agree with most. And if they drop out, I re-evaluate based on who is remaining.

 

[V Chip]

As someone who has never cared who the VP nomination was in any election in my life, Warren as VP would make me way more satisfied in voting for Biden.

As a huge Warren supporter, I hope it isn't her. She's better in the Senate or to head up the CFBP which she basically created herself. I'd love to see her putting the feet of corporate America to the fire when they deserve it rather than being a figurehead for trips overseas and hindered by being the VP.

 

[SystemShock]

You knew he would. The ‘Dems’ don’t care who it is as long as it isn’t Trump. You know this. Anyone but Trump at all cost.

Isn't that the point of every election ever, everywhere? That your candidate wins it instead of the other party's candidate?

 

[SystemShock]

And there we have it. Sanders endorses Biden. This clears the way for Obama to endorse Biden and campaign for him . . . if he will.

Sanders endorses Biden for president

Ex-Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) endorsed former rival Joe Biden during a virtual event Monday.”We need you in the White House. I will do all that I can to see…

thehill.com

Did you expect any different?

 

[Dadsdream]

Did you expect any different?

No, but I didn't really expect Joe to borrow from Hillary's "basket of deplorables" handbook quite so quickly!

“There are people who support the president because they like the fact that he is engaged in the politics of division, They really support the notion that, you know, all Mexicans are rapists and all Muslims are bad and... dividing this nation based on ethnicity, race. This is the one [sic] of the few presidents who succeeded by deliberately trying to divide the country, not unite the country.”
- Joe Biden, virtual town hall, 4/15/2020

Biden's 'deplorables moment'? Trump camp decries comments on president's base

At a virtual fundraiser Wednesday night, Joe Biden laughed off the possibility of appealing to President Trump's base -- and then directly attacked some Trump voters, drawing comparisons from journalists and the Trump campaign to Hillary Clinton's infamous "basket of deplorables" moment during...

www.foxnews.com

 

[SystemShock]

No, but I didn't really expect Joe to borrow from Hillary's "basket of deplorables" handbook quite so quickly!

What does that have to do with Sanders' endorsement?

 

[Dadsdream]

What does that have to do with Sanders' endorsement?

Nothing. It has to do with my expectations.

 

[The moose]

Nothing. It has to do with my expectations.

Well from what I read hear your expectations are pretty far fetched. So I would not take it too hard if Biden didn't bend the knee to get the white supremacists vote, or the blame immigrants vote.

Or heck the trump apologist vote where you clearly land with all the excuses made to defend him.

 

[brandon]

No, but I didn't really expect Joe to borrow from Hillary's "basket of deplorables" handbook quite so quickly!

“There are people who support the president because they like the fact that he is engaged in the politics of division, They really support the notion that, you know, all Mexicans are rapists and all Muslims are bad and... dividing this nation based on ethnicity, race. This is the one [sic] of the few presidents who succeeded by deliberately trying to divide the country, not unite the country.”
- Joe Biden, virtual town hall, 4/15/2020

Biden's 'deplorables moment'? Trump camp decries comments on president's base

At a virtual fundraiser Wednesday night, Joe Biden laughed off the possibility of appealing to President Trump's base -- and then directly attacked some Trump voters, drawing comparisons from journalists and the Trump campaign to Hillary Clinton's infamous "basket of deplorables" moment during...

www.foxnews.com

But you recognize that this is a factual statement, right?

You might not like it, but it is factual. I could point you to any number of forums where you can observe thousands of people who believe these things.