Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[Maxp]

The exact situation happened to my wife and I 8 years ago. If it were to happen today she would probably have died. I remember feeling the same as the husband linked below: helpless, scared, and angry.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/01/1172973274/oklahoma-abortion-ban-exception-life-of-mother-molar-pregnancy

Partial molar pregnancies happen when something goes wrong during fertilization — either two sperm fertilize the same egg or an egg is fertilized by one sperm that later duplicates. A nonviable embryo with too much genetic material develops, along with abnormal placental tissue. In a complete molar pregnancy, there's no embryo at all, only abnormal placental tissue. With both types, there is a risk of heavy bleeding, infection, and a life-threatening condition called preeclampsia that can lead to organ failure. There's also a risk that cancer will develop.

 

[MT15]

This is the type of man who will use TX’s horrible law. He’s terrorizing this woman, and the state of TX is helping him do it. Makes me furious. She clarifies in a final tweet that the bill isn’t SB 8 as she says. But these laws are intended to control women, this is the desired effect, IMO.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

forked up...

Because of Florida abortion laws, she carried her baby to term knowing he would die | CNN

A Florida woman, unable to get an abortion in her state, carried to term a baby who had no kidneys.

www.cnn.com

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

forked up...

Because of Florida abortion laws, she carried her baby to term knowing he would die | CNN

A Florida woman, unable to get an abortion in her state, carried to term a baby who had no kidneys.

www.cnn.com

Last month, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law an even more restrictive measure that would ban most abortions in the state after six weeks, with an exception for fatal fetal abnormalities. The law won’t go into effect until the state Supreme Court overturns its precedent on abortion or tosses out a case challenging state abortion restrictions.

BREAKING NEWS: A six week embryo cannot have fetal abnormalities because its an EMBRYO!!!!!

 

[MT15]

BREAKING NEWS: A six week embryo cannot have fetal abnormalities because its an EMBRYO!!!!!

Most of the time women will not find out about fatal fetal abnormalities until much later, around 27-28 weeks in some cases. It’s heartbreaking. These are wanted pregnancies and a lot of women just want to terminate when they find out the fetus won’t live, isn’t capable of survival, so they can begin the healing process. If they are forced to carry to term, like almost all of these laws will force them to do, it’s a daily reminder of the trauma and the tragic outcome. And it exposes them to the unnecessary risk of a delivery, where the termination is safer for the woman. Almost every single “late-term” abortion that anti-abortionists lie about is one of these terminations. No doctor anywhere is aborting viable fetuses. They lie and lie and cause unbelievable heartbreak and trauma to women who aren’t even seeking abortions. Women everywhere told them this would happen. Doctors told them this would happen. They don’t care - all they care about is controlling and punishing women. It’s barbaric.

 

[MT15]

This figures. Ohio is one of the worst states for the behavior of their GOP. Corrupt.

People demonstrating against the OH Legislature’s plan to increase the signatures required for a referendum:

 

[MT15]

This just stinks for the people of NC.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Republican women trying to save the party from self destruction
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In one state, Republican women filibustered to block a near total abortion ban introduced by their own party. In another, the Republican co-sponsor of a six-week abortion ban subsequently tanked his own bill.

On the federal level, a Republican congresswoman warns that the GOP’s abortion stance could meaning “losing huge” in 2024.

As states continue to bring in tighter restrictions on abortion following the fall of Roe v Wade, internal divisions within the Republican party onthe issue are starting to show.

Divisions most clearly started to show last week in the deep red states of South Carolinaand Nebraska, where Republicans roundly rejected further attempts to curtail abortion rights last week.

In South Carolina on Thursday, all five female senators – three of them Republican – led a filibuster that ultimately blocked a bill which would have banned abortion from conception with very few exceptions……

Republicans reject abortion bans as ‘campaign-enders’ in warning to party

As states continue to bring in tighter restrictions on abortion, internal divisions within the GOP are starting to show

www.theguardian.com

 

[FullMonte]

BREAKING NEWS: A six week embryo cannot have fetal abnormalities because its an EMBRYO!!!!!

I’m not sure that is relevant. Unless I’m misunderstanding the law, the law would allow for an abortion AFTER the six week point if there were fetal abnormalities.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I’m not sure that is relevant. Unless I’m misunderstanding the law, the law would allow for an abortion AFTER the six week point if there were fetal abnormalities.

You are misunderstanding then!

She said her pregnancy was proceeding normally until November, when, at 24 weeks, an ultrasound showed that the fetus did not have kidneys and that she had hardly any amniotic fluid. Not only was the baby sure to die, her doctors told her, but the pregnancy put her at especially high risk of preeclampsia, a potentially deadly complication.

Her doctors told her it was too late to terminate the pregnancy in Florida, which bans nearly all abortions after 15 weeks. The only options were to go out of state to get an abortion or to carry the baby to full term, and Dorbert and her husband didn’t have the money to travel.

 

[zztop]

This just stinks for the people of NC.

yep, I knew as soon as she switched sides NC was forked. They have a veto proof majority now.

Oh and also " Republicans quietly tucked the 46-page abortion restriction into another unrelated piece of legislation. Lawmakers added it as a conference committee report, allowing Republicans to evade the traditional committee process and head straight to a vote."

 

[GrandAdmiral]

This just stinks for the people of NC.

I wonder why they're not trying to recall her.

 

[DaveXA]

I wonder why they're not trying to recall her.

Can they even do that though?

 

[FullMonte]

You are misunderstanding then!

I don't think I am. The post you responded to saying "A six week embryo cannot have fetal abnormalities because its an EMBRYO" said:

Last month, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law an even more restrictive measure that would ban most abortions in the state after six weeks, with an exception for fatal fetal abnormalities.

That says, quite clearly, that it bans most abortions after six weeks, but an abortion after six weeks could be allowed due to fatal fetal abnormalities. That does not say, in any way, that it bans abortions in the first six weeks, except for embryos with fatal fetal abnormalities.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I don't think I am. The post you responded to saying "A six week embryo cannot have fetal abnormalities because its an EMBRYO" said:



That says, quite clearly, that it bans most abortions after six weeks, but an abortion after six weeks could be allowed due to fatal fetal abnormalities. That does not say, in any way, that it bans abortions in the first six weeks, except for embryos with fatal fetal abnormalities.

And the rebuttal shows that a woman was denied an abortion due to FL's current law which denies abortion after 15 weeks with the same exceptions that the new law has. All the new law does is lower the abortion ban trigger to a time before the fetus is formed. I'm just pointing out that their exception clause is bullshirt because there are already examples of denials of medical care with their previous law. They have essentially banned all abortions because a six week ban gives the mother a few days to make a HUGE decision.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Can they even do that though?

Apparently, very few states allow for the recall of legislators...

In North Carolina, some counties have provisions, but nothing at the state level it seems. That's messed up. A complete fraud.

 

[DaveXA]

Apparently, very few states allow for the recall of legislators...

In North Carolina, some counties have provisions, but nothing at the state level it seems. That's messed up. A complete fraud.

Yep, I figured it varies from state to state, but you don't really hear a lot about recalls in most states. Usually, the only way to really oust someone is through the legislative body.

 

[MT15]

I wonder why they're not trying to recall her.

I don’t know if they have a process. Certainly wouldn’t be fast enough to prevent the vote.