Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[MT15]

Birth control is next. They have a plan. If an R ever holds the WH again, say goodbye to birth control.

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Birth control is next. They have a plan. If an R ever holds the WH again, say goodbye to birth control.

geez.. thats why they are so uptight, they just need to have sex more than twice in their lives...

 

[Taurus]

"...senseless use of birth control."

Who tf died and left you in charge of my sex life, lady?

Don't like birth control? Don't use it. But don't pretend for a second that you get to force me to make your invisible friend happy.

 

[superchuck500]

"...senseless use of birth control."

Who tf died and left you in charge of my sex life, lady?

Don't like birth control? Don't use it. But don't pretend for a second that you get to force me to make your invisible friend happy.

Instead of proper birth control, everyone should just pull out on to a picture of her.

 

[superchuck500]

You cannot freeze and then thaw a “child” and have it be still alive. This is just crazy.

The court refers to these embryos as "extrauterine children" - crazy.

And it also makes clear that this definition of "child" begins at fertilization. So now in Alabama, if you have fertilization, you have a child.

 

[Booker]

The court refers to these embryos as "extrauterine children" - crazy.

And it also makes clear that this definition of "child" begins at fertilization. So now in Alabama, if you have fertilization, you have a child.

I'm sure that was part of the plan. The pro-lifers have tried to pass "personhood" amendments in Colorado a couple of times, but got smacked down pretty hard.

 

[MT15]

"...senseless use of birth control."

Who tf died and left you in charge of my sex life, lady?

Don't like birth control? Don't use it. But don't pretend for a second that you get to force me to make your invisible friend happy.

That’s how all women feel. Don’t like abortions, think they are a mortal sin? That’s fine, nobody will ever force you to have one. Just leave everybody else alone.

 

[Optimus Prime]

An Oklahoma bill that would create a database of every person who obtained an abortion is one step closer to becoming law.

The so-called Oklahoma Right To Human Life Act, authored by state Rep. Kevin West, passed out of the Public Health Committee last week and moves to a full House vote next month. The bill would require the Oklahoma State Department of Health to create a database in which each patient is identified by a “unique patient identifier” to track how many abortions a patient has and when. That information and the identity of the patient could be released to authorities under a court order.

Oklahoma already outlaws all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother, without exceptions for rape or incest.

Tamya Cox-Toure, executive director of the ACLU of Oklahoma, said the law could discourage patients from seeking abortions during a medical emergency and discourage doctors from performing them.

“People who are ending their pregnancy for medical reasons—to save the health of the pregnant person—are the people who are going to be part of this database,” she told The Daily Beast.

“Even in a situation where ending the pregnancy saves the life of the pregnant person, there's still a lot of stigma that happens,” she added. “So the idea that a patient is forced to give this information goes against doctor-patient confidentiality as well as patient-informed consent.”............

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[coldseat]

An Oklahoma bill that would create a database of every person who obtained an abortion is one step closer to becoming law.

The so-called Oklahoma Right To Human Life Act, authored by state Rep. Kevin West, passed out of the Public Health Committee last week and moves to a full House vote next month. The bill would require the Oklahoma State Department of Health to create a database in which each patient is identified by a “unique patient identifier” to track how many abortions a patient has and when. That information and the identity of the patient could be released to authorities under a court order.

Oklahoma already outlaws all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother, without exceptions for rape or incest.

Tamya Cox-Toure, executive director of the ACLU of Oklahoma, said the law could discourage patients from seeking abortions during a medical emergency and discourage doctors from performing them.

“People who are ending their pregnancy for medical reasons—to save the health of the pregnant person—are the people who are going to be part of this database,” she told The Daily Beast.

“Even in a situation where ending the pregnancy saves the life of the pregnant person, there's still a lot of stigma that happens,” she added. “So the idea that a patient is forced to give this information goes against doctor-patient confidentiality as well as patient-informed consent.”............

MSN

www.msn.com

The radical right really can't help itself. It's like a feeding frenzy with anti-abortion and anti-lgbtq legislation. Anything they can do to regress rights as fast as possible is being done.

 

[Taurus]

The radical right really can't help itself. It's like a feeding frenzy with anti-abortion and anti-lgbtq legislation. Anything they can do to regress rights as fast as possible is being done.

Sadly for America, the far Right can and will make full use of every scrap of power they have.
While Democrats get stonewalled even when they have a majority.

 

[MT15]

IVF already discontinued in AL. This is just horrific.

 

[coldseat]

IVF already discontinued in AL. This is just horrific.

Maybe they'll start to elect more democrats in Alabama. Or maybe they'll elect more republicans and continue their march to become Afghanistan in regards to their treatment of women.

My money is on the latter. It seems there's no limit to the radical right wing politicians they're willing to elect or policies they'll support.

 

[superchuck500]

IVF already discontinued in AL. This is just horrific.

There's some deep irony here in that the plaintiffs were three IVF couples. This was not brought by the state or any other sort of interested party or activist group. The plaintiffs are two couples that allege that the hospital negligently failed to safeguard their embryos in the cyrogenic facility and a hospital patient somehow got in there and caused "several" of them to be destroyed. Two of the three couples lost two embryos and the third couple lost one. The record also shows that these families already had successful IVF births with actual living children.

So I can only presume that in their greed to get money for the loss of "several embryos", they have now shut down IVF entirely in the state of Alabama. There will be no way that a properly-run facility will be able to operate with the risk that now comes not only with possible criminal exposure (which is very real) but also substantial wrongful death tort liability exposure.

If they are still trying to have an IVF baby, they're going to have to go to another state. In addition, according to the brief for the hospital, two of the three couples chose the "have the embryos destroyed" upon their determination that they no longer wished to pay for their storage, or if the mother turned 55.

What a bunch of greedy butt crevasses.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[MT15]

She will never be elected with that stance.

 

[coldseat]

The follow up question should have been what did she do with the embryos that she didn't use to have children? Are they still stored or did she destroy them? If still stored, what's her plan for them so that she isn't labeled a murderer by the Alabama Supreme Court?

 

[SFIDC3]

I've always held that she was just as bad a right wing nut job as the others, just in a nicer, more coherent package....

 

[superchuck500]

I've always held that she was just as bad a right wing nut job as the others, just in a nicer, more coherent package....

One of my issues with her is that she’s not very quick-witted. I suspect that she thinks IVF is a helpful way for couples struggling to have children to be able to have families. She apparently needed assistance. But a smart leader understands that this framework kills IVF - it will cease to exist in those jurisdictions.

She doesn’t realize that and the interviewer should be asking that in a following question. She should be forced to reconcile those two positions.