Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (3 Viewers)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[DaveXA]

How can this be constitutional?

Yeah, here we go with the gestapo enforcement tactics.

 

[MT15]

I don’t know how they can get away with it, but I will tell you that I have seen all sorts of things that I never thought I would see concerning women’s rights and LGBTQ rights lately. They seem to have a thirst for power on these issues that is truly authoritarian.

 

[Neworleansfan]

I don’t know how they can get away with it, but I will tell you that I have seen all sorts of things that I never thought I would see concerning women’s rights and LGBTQ rights lately. They seem to have a thirst for power on these issues that is truly authoritarian.

I think it is just noises, dog whistles, and scare tactics.

 

[MT15]

I think it is just noises, dog whistles, and scare tactics.

Scare tactics are very effective to people who are disenfranchised.

 

[LA - L.A.]

I don’t know how they can get away with it, but I will tell you that I have seen all sorts of things that I never thought I would see concerning women’s rights and LGBTQ rights lately. They seem to have a thirst for power on these issues that is truly authoritarian.

The minority of people who refuse to embrace the inevitable changes and shifts our society is going through are trying to hold onto what dwindling power they have with a death grip, both literally and figuratively.

They will ultimately not have any significant political power. I hope that day comes sooner rather than later. They will however continue to violently attack us from the margins. They've already started our own version of "the Troubles" and I expect it to escalate and last for a few decades, much like the original "the Troubles."

 

[DaveXA]

I don’t know how they can get away with it, but I will tell you that I have seen all sorts of things that I never thought I would see concerning women’s rights and LGBTQ rights lately. They seem to have a thirst for power on these issues that is truly authoritarian.

Agreed.

 

[MT15]

I read this guy on Twitter some. I read this as an admonition to Christians about enforcing tenets of their faith through laws. Abortion springs to mind. I would love to hear why this isn’t an accurate interpretation of Christ’s teachings. It rings true to me.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Last paragraph bolding mine. I never understood why people who are anti abortion can also be anti birth control
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The headlines warned parents of an unspeakable horror on college campuses – something even more dangerous to their precious children than left-leaning curricula. “Abortion vending machines are appearing on college campuses,” one stated. “Abortions pills available by vending machine at 39 US colleges,” said another.

Kristan Hawkins, president of Students for Life America, wrote that there was a “recent obsession with putting Plan B vending machines on college and university campuses as some kind of miracle drug in a post-Roe America”.

“An anti-baby, anti-family bias permeates many campuses exposing students to risks and dangers they are either not told about or told to ignore.” The “casual distribution of Plan B”, Hawkins also wrote, exposes young women “to dangerous people, to unknown physical consequences, and to the current epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs)”.

The apparent conservative backlash against Plan B vending machines stems from an influx of colleges installing them on campuses – at least 39 with more to come – amid post-Roe v Wadeabortion restrictions. Advocates worry that criticism and disinformation could stymie access to emergency contraception.

“Plan B is an emergency contraceptive,” said Kelly Cleland, executive director of the American Society for Emergency Contraception. “Plan B works by preventing or delaying ovulation. If you miss the point in the cycle to prevent ovulation, it doesn’t work.”

“It’s different from the abortion pill in that Plan B prevents pregnancy from ever happening and medication abortion is used to end a pregnancy after somebody already has an established pregnancy.”…….

“Vending machines are such a good solution because they can be 24-7, or close to 24-7 access,” Cleland said. “They can provide the product at a much lower cost and discreetly.”

Of opposition to Plan B and birth control generally, Cleland said: “It’s a little hard for me to get my head around being against contraception if you want to prevent abortion.

“Preventing pregnancy is the best way to prevent abortion. Plan B, along with other contraceptives, can help people prevent pregnancies they don’t want,” she added.……

Rightwing disinformation on Plan B vending machines at colleges ‘harmful to young lives’

Experts raise concerns that conservative backlash could stymie access to emergency contraception and spread disinformation

www.theguardian.com

 

[coldseat]

Of opposition to Plan B and birth control generally, Cleland said: “It’s a little hard for me to get my head around being against contraception if you want to prevent abortion.

“Preventing pregnancy is the best way to prevent abortion. Plan B, along with other contraceptives, can help people prevent pregnancies they don’t want,” she added.……

Rightwing disinformation on Plan B vending machines at colleges ‘harmful to young lives’

Experts raise concerns that conservative backlash could stymie access to emergency contraception and spread disinformation

www.theguardian.com

It's because the true goal isn't really to stop abortions. Those Christians know that abortion will continue one way or the other, it's been that way since women could get pregnant. The true objective is to control woman and our culture. By limiting contraception, they gain greater control of peoples sex lives and can force others to live under their repression. It's the same thing with any government/country controlled by theorcrats, no matter the religion.

 

[LA - L.A.]

It's because the true goal isn't really to stop abortions. Those Christians know that abortion will continue one way or the other, it's been that way since women could get pregnant. The true objective is to control woman and our culture. By limiting contraception, they gain greater control of peoples sex lives and can force others to live under their repression. It's the same thing with any government/country controlled by theorcrats, no matter the religion.

I've always seen it this way too. Some believe sex outside of marriage is a sin and they see birth control as enabling sex outside of marriage, so they want to take away birth control to try to keep people from having sex outside of marriage. Some have a more extreme view that sex should only be for having children and sex for any other reason is a sin, so they see birth control as inherently sinful.

Banning abortion and birth control has always been about trying to force their morality onto others. Their primary and foundational motivation is authoritarian, oppressive and self-righteous.

 

[MT15]

I've always seen it this way too. Some believe sex outside of marriage is a sin and they see birth control as enabling sex outside of marriage, so they want to take away birth control to try to keep people from having sex outside of marriage. Some have a more extreme view that sex should only be for having children and sex for any other reason is a sin, so they see birth control as inherently sinful.

Banning abortion and birth control has always been about trying to force their morality onto others. Their primary and foundational motivation is authoritarian, oppressive and self-righteous.

You are correct, except the word bolded should be women, not people. They want to control women having sex outside of marriage. There will never be meaningful consequences enacted for men having sex outside of marriage, as they may frown on it, but won’t do anything about it.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Let's see what comes of this...

State judge temporarily blocks Iowa's 6-week abortion ban | CNN Politics

Abortions in Iowa will for now remain legal up to 22 weeks into a pregnancy after a judge on Monday temporarily blocked the state’s newly signed law that would ban the procedure as early as six weeks.

www.cnn.com

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

This is what I expect from the DoD, too bad the GOP disagrees.

 

[MT15]

 

[Optimus Prime]

Women who sued Texas after saying they were denied abortions despite serious risks to their health are headed to court on Wednesday as legal challenges to abortion bans across the US continue a year after the fall of Roe v Wade.

The Texas case is believed to be the first brought by women who were denied abortions since the right to an abortion in the US was overturned, according to the Center for Reproductive Rights, which is representing them.

The case before a Texas judge in Austin does not seek to reverse the state’s abortion ban, which is one of the strictest in the country.

It instead asks the court for clarity on when exceptions are allowed in Texas, where the women say they were told they could not end their pregnancies even though their lives and health were in danger.…….

Texas women denied abortions ask court for clarity over ban exceptions

Women say they were told they could not end pregnancies even though their lives and health were in danger

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

The doctor starts each day with a list of addresses and a label maker.
Sitting in her basement in New York’s Hudson Valley, next to her grown children’s old bunk beds, she reviews the list of towns and cities she’ll be mailing to that day: Baton Rouge, Tucson, Houston.


A month ago, a phone call was the only thing the doctor could offer to women in states with abortion bans who faced unexpected pregnancies. Hamstrung by the laws, she could only coach them through the process of taking abortion pills they received from overseas suppliers.

Then, all of a sudden, the whole system changed. Now she can legally mail them pills herself.
A new procedure adopted in mid-June by one of the largest abortion pill suppliers, Europe-based Aid Access, now allows U.S. medical professionals in certain Democrat-led states that have passed abortion “shield” laws to prescribe and mail pills directly to patients in antiabortion states.

Previously, Aid Access allowed only Europe-based doctors to prescribe abortion pills to women in states where abortion is restricted and then shipped those pills internationally, leaving patients to wait weeks.

The telemedicine shield laws, enacted over the past year in New York, Massachusetts, Washington, Vermont and Colorado, explicitly protect abortion providers who mail pills to restricted states from inside their borders.
The result is a new pipeline of legally prescribed abortion pills flowing into states with abortion bans.

In less than a month, seven U.S.-based providers affiliated with Aid Access — including the Hudson Valley doctor, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because she was concerned for her safety — have mailed 3,500 doses of abortion pills to people in antiabortion states, according to Aid Access, putting just this small group alone on track to help facilitate at least 42,000 abortions in restricted states over the next year.

If more doctors and nurses sign up, as current providers hope they will, the numbers could climb far higher.

“Everything I’m doing is completely legal,” the Hudson Valley doctor said, her family’s ping-pong table covered with abortion pills bound for the South and Midwest, where abortion has been largely illegal since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June 2022.
 “Texas might say I’m breaking their laws, but I don’t live in Texas.”


The development tees up a complicated interstate battle where doctors on U.S. soil are empowered to legally circumvent abortion laws — allowing blue states to potentially undermine the red state bans that many Republicans hoped would end abortion within their borders.

Meanwhile, some conservative groups are angling to outlaw the abortion pill nationwide, attempting to outlaw the medication in the courts as well as calling for a national abortion ban…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/doctors-northeast-launch-abortion-pill-pipeline-into-states-with-bans/

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[DaveXA]

You know there's some sort of "but, but..." coming, right?