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Wasn't sure where to put this, but we need a thread for the wing nuts. Lauren Boebert.
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No, you didn’t liar.
I not only could note vote during the Civil War I wasn’t alive then.
The Republican Party during the timeframe of my life combined with the timeframe of my voting has never put forward any legislation worth supporting.
Beyond that, liar? The Republican Party abandoned the Black men and women after the death of Lincoln. Read Jeremi Suri’s Civil War by Other Means. One of wealthy conservative Republicans’ concerns was doing profitable business with the South. The election of 1876 basically ended Reconstruction and the Republican Party was entirely complicit in the resulting emergence of Jim Crow. In point of fact the Republican Party did nothing about Jim Crow. It took Brown V Bd of Ed to start the ball rolling in addition to Truman’s integrating the military. Even though more Republicans than Democrats supported the Civil Rights Act it was a Democratic president that put forward the legislation. The split on the voting was due to conservatives voting against it while it was supported by those who supported progressive ideas.
I have not responded to your nonsense until this particular instance because I feel no compulsion to respond to empty air. However, it was necessary to refute your lie.
Okay, someone hacked your account and posted under your name, because I supplied the quote so people couldn't claim I am wrong.
Which, of course, has nothing to do with you saying anything any Democratic President has done is better than anything a Republican President has done. Based on YOUR exact words, what you are saying is that Lincoln freeing slaves wasn't as good as the worst thing a Democratic President has ever done.
The only lie here is you and your friend attempting to walk back your ridiculous comment.
Here are your EXACT words in case you wish to amend them now:
"Love everything? Nope. Was everything put forth by a Democratic president better than anything put forth by a Republican president? Yup."
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Well, brainless, your ability to understand context is open for all to see. G-d, you are flocking stupid. Your little gotcha is a failure like everything you post, believe in and vote for.
That you cannot understand the nuance of the presence of lifetime within what we are talking about underscores that despite your age you are a child.
So, let us stay in the post Civil war era for just a second before re-entering our time machine to emerge in the current era. Do you support the Republican Party abandoning the Black men and women during and after Reconstruction?
Now, back in present time which includes your lifetime and my lifetime. There has been no Republican policy or legislation that I have supported.
Figure it out, azzhat.
That you think this well-documented historical fact is a lie tells us everything we need to know. You’re uninformed and unwilling to learn. You have a very immature and disingenuous posting pattern here.
Here it is, it’s extremely well documented:
How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South | HISTORY
Democratic defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” started a switch to the Republican party in a movement that was later fueled by a so‑called "Southern strategy."
www.history.comSure, let's pretend the south stopped voting for Democrats for decades, before and after the Civil Rights Act passed.That you think this well-documented historical fact is a lie tells us everything we need to know. You’re uninformed and unwilling to learn. You have a very immature and disingenuous posting pattern here.
Here it is, it’s extremely well documented:
How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South | HISTORY
Democratic defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” started a switch to the Republican party in a movement that was later fueled by a so‑called "Southern strategy."
Nice walk back of your comment.
But still a failure to amend your comment, which was quoted accurately.
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I think she's a talking horse. Mrs. Ed.
If you aren’t going to read and at least try to comprehend sources, just quit posting. You’re not honestly participating, you’re just trolling.
pretending the Democrats magically all turned Republican is silly. You can have your myth, I don't need to be a party to it.
Yeah, I laugh at those people so gullible.
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The Democratic party is the original conservative party in the USA. The more liberal leaning folks were Federalists or Whigs.
At the time of the civil war the Whigs collapsed as a party, and the current Republican party was formed to replace it.
Conservatives had shortened the name of their party from Democratic-Republicans to Democrats so the name Republican was open to be used by a new party.
At that time the Republicans in their new party call themselves progressives. They were the progressive federalist liberals of that era.
Read this:
The Republican Party, known retroactively as the Democratic-Republican Party (also referred to by historians as the Jeffersonian Democratic Party)[a], was an American political party founded by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison in the early 1790s. It championed liberalism, republicanism, individual liberty, equal rights, separation of church and state, freedom of religion, decentralization, free markets, free trade, and agrarianism. In foreign policy it was hostile to Great Britain and the Netherlands and in sympathy with the French Revolution and Napoleonic wars. The party became increasingly dominant after the 1800 elections as the opposing Federalist Party collapsed.
Increasing dominance over American politics led to increasing factional splits within the party. Old Republicans, led by John Taylor of Caroline and John Randolph of Roanoke, believed that the administrations of Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe—and the Congresses led by Henry Clay—had in some ways betrayed the republican "Principles of '98" by expanding the size and scope of the national government. The Republicans splintered during the 1824 presidential election. Those calling for a return to the older founding principles of the party were often referred to as "Democratic Republicans" (later Democrats) while those embracing the newer nationalist principles of "The American System" were often referred to as National Republicans (later Whigs).[9][10]
The Republican Party originated in Congress to oppose the nationalist and economically interventionist policies of Alexander Hamilton, who served as Secretary of the Treasury under President George Washington. The Republicans and the opposing Federalist Party each became more cohesive during Washington's second term, partly as a result of the debate over the Jay Treaty. Though he was defeated by Federalist John Adams in the 1796 presidential election, Jefferson and his Republican allies came into power following the 1800 elections. As president, Jefferson presided over a reduction in the national debt and government spending, and completed the Louisiana Purchase with France.
Madison succeeded Jefferson as president in 1809 and led the country during the largely inconclusive War of 1812 with Britain. After the war, Madison and his congressional allies established the Second Bank of the United States and implemented protective tariffs, marking a move away from the party's earlier emphasis on states' rights and a strict construction of the United States Constitution. The Federalists collapsed after 1815, beginning a period known as the Era of Good Feelings. Lacking an effective opposition, the Republicans split into rival groups after the 1824 presidential election: one faction supported President John Quincy Adams, while another faction backed General Andrew Jackson. Jackson's supporters eventually coalesced into the Democratic Party, while supporters of Adams became known as the National Republican Party, which itself later merged into the Whig Party.
Republicans were deeply committed to the principles of republicanism, which they feared were threatened by the aristocratic tendencies of the Federalists. During the 1790s, the party strongly opposed Federalist programs, including the national bank. After the War of 1812, Madison and many other party leaders came to accept the need for a national bank and federally funded infrastructure projects. In foreign affairs, the party advocated western expansion and tended to favor France over Britain, though the party's pro-French stance faded after Napoleon took power. The Democratic-Republicans were strongest in the South and the western frontier, and weakest in New England.
You are just displaying your ignorance and refusal to read documented history.
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I guess you can say that again since you've already said it twice.
I know where the GOP was formed. I also know that President Lincoln was a progressive liberal.
In that era I would have been a progressive Republican.
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At a Los Angeles church in October 2023, Jenny Donnelly, a Christian entrepreneur and charismatic preacher, addressed a room full of women with a lofty idea.
“Why don’t we send a million women into the school boards?”
The audience had convened to hear Donnelly, a multi-level marketer turned rising star on the Christian right, offer her vision for a conservative movement of moms determined to push back against policies such as LGBTQ+ inclusion and abortion rights.
Such a movement, Donnelly proclaimed, would be rooted in the “billion soul harvest”, referring to a prophetic, end-times vision of mass revival introduced by US evangelists in the early 2000s.
In the year since, Donnelly has developed a sprawling network of moms through a strategic but largely under-the-radar organizing infrastructure made up of small groups across the country called “prayer hubs”.
She has secured the backing of heavy-hitting rightwing Christian activists and donors and says her goal is to train women to run for office locally while establishing a national mass of parents ready to mobilize in the streets against LGBTQ+ rights and inclusion.
Donnelly has found a political and religious home among the leaders and church networks associated with the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), a movement that seeks to install conservative Christians as leaders in governmental and cultural institutions.
NAR leaders such as Donnelly are “very good at what they do, and they have mastered the art of gaining mass followings that are not highly geographically concentrated”, said Matthew Taylor, a fellow at the Institute for Islamic, Christian and Jewish Studies whose research focuses on charismatic Christian networks. “That gives them a great deal of political power – if, when and where they decide to deploy it.”
According to footage of Her Voice Movement meetings reviewed by the Guardian and Documented, Donnelly’s organization has in the last three years established more than 7,000 organizing hubs across the country.
The group grew dramatically in the months before the election with the support of financing from the secretive Christian donor network Ziklag – which sought to expand the Her Voice Movement in key battleground states to help elect Donald Trump, according to internal Ziklag videos obtained by the Guardian and Documented.……..
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“Why don’t we send a million women into the school boards?”
The audience had convened to hear Donnelly, a multi-level marketer turned rising star on the Christian right, offer her vision for a conservative movement of moms determined to push back against policies such as LGBTQ+ inclusion and abortion rights.
Such a movement, Donnelly proclaimed, would be rooted in the “billion soul harvest”, referring to a prophetic, end-times vision of mass revival introduced by US evangelists in the early 2000s.
In the year since, Donnelly has developed a sprawling network of moms through a strategic but largely under-the-radar organizing infrastructure made up of small groups across the country called “prayer hubs”.
She has secured the backing of heavy-hitting rightwing Christian activists and donors and says her goal is to train women to run for office locally while establishing a national mass of parents ready to mobilize in the streets against LGBTQ+ rights and inclusion.
Donnelly has found a political and religious home among the leaders and church networks associated with the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), a movement that seeks to install conservative Christians as leaders in governmental and cultural institutions.
NAR leaders such as Donnelly are “very good at what they do, and they have mastered the art of gaining mass followings that are not highly geographically concentrated”, said Matthew Taylor, a fellow at the Institute for Islamic, Christian and Jewish Studies whose research focuses on charismatic Christian networks. “That gives them a great deal of political power – if, when and where they decide to deploy it.”
According to footage of Her Voice Movement meetings reviewed by the Guardian and Documented, Donnelly’s organization has in the last three years established more than 7,000 organizing hubs across the country.
The group grew dramatically in the months before the election with the support of financing from the secretive Christian donor network Ziklag – which sought to expand the Her Voice Movement in key battleground states to help elect Donald Trump, according to internal Ziklag videos obtained by the Guardian and Documented.……..
‘Mama bears are rising up’: the rightwing Christian entrepreneur aiming for a takeover of local US government
Jenny Donnelly, multi-level marketer turned rising star on the Christian right, wants to fight against LGBTQ+ inclusion and abortion rights
When you mix religion and politics you get politics to the detriment of both.At a Los Angeles church in October 2023, Jenny Donnelly, a Christian entrepreneur and charismatic preacher, addressed a room full of women with a lofty idea.
“Why don’t we send a million women into the school boards?”
The audience had convened to hear Donnelly, a multi-level marketer turned rising star on the Christian right, offer her vision for a conservative movement of moms determined to push back against policies such as LGBTQ+ inclusion and abortion rights.
Such a movement, Donnelly proclaimed, would be rooted in the “billion soul harvest”, referring to a prophetic, end-times vision of mass revival introduced by US evangelists in the early 2000s.
In the year since, Donnelly has developed a sprawling network of moms through a strategic but largely under-the-radar organizing infrastructure made up of small groups across the country called “prayer hubs”.
She has secured the backing of heavy-hitting rightwing Christian activists and donors and says her goal is to train women to run for office locally while establishing a national mass of parents ready to mobilize in the streets against LGBTQ+ rights and inclusion.
Donnelly has found a political and religious home among the leaders and church networks associated with the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), a movement that seeks to install conservative Christians as leaders in governmental and cultural institutions.
NAR leaders such as Donnelly are “very good at what they do, and they have mastered the art of gaining mass followings that are not highly geographically concentrated”, said Matthew Taylor, a fellow at the Institute for Islamic, Christian and Jewish Studies whose research focuses on charismatic Christian networks. “That gives them a great deal of political power – if, when and where they decide to deploy it.”
According to footage of Her Voice Movement meetings reviewed by the Guardian and Documented, Donnelly’s organization has in the last three years established more than 7,000 organizing hubs across the country.
The group grew dramatically in the months before the election with the support of financing from the secretive Christian donor network Ziklag – which sought to expand the Her Voice Movement in key battleground states to help elect Donald Trump, according to internal Ziklag videos obtained by the Guardian and Documented.……..
‘Mama bears are rising up’: the rightwing Christian entrepreneur aiming for a takeover of local US government
Jenny Donnelly, multi-level marketer turned rising star on the Christian right, wants to fight against LGBTQ+ inclusion and abortion rights
As long as there are religions and politics, the two shall forever be entwined in some ways.
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