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    I don't believe for one second that Ted Cruz believes this. I also don't believe for one second that he doesn't know the dangers with putting this out there

    I lastly believe that he believes if it helps Trump and hurts Harris/Dems he could give a shirt about any dangers




     
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    Political extremists have attempted a number of attacks on electrical infrastructure and substations in recent years, with a goal of sowing chaos and civil conflict.

    The plots have repeatedly failed, however, and sociologists say that even if they do succeed, the kind of disasters they seek to create rarely result in members of the population turning on one another — though they could prove costly, and deadly.

    In July, two former Marines, both active in an online neo-Nazi community, were sentenced to prison for a plot in which they stole military equipment from Camp Lejeune as part of an intended attack on a power substation in the Pacific Northwest. Attorney General Merrick Garland said the plotters, Liam Collins and Paul Kryscuk, “conspired, prepared, and trained to attack America’s power grid in order to advance their violent white supremacist ideology.”

    The year before, officials said they foiled another, similar plot, this one targeting the grid in Baltimore. The two alleged plotters, Sarah Beth Clendaniel and Brandon Russell, were described by the FBI as “racially- or ethnically-motivated extremists,” and officials said they targeted Baltimore in large part because of its status as a majority-Black city.

    Many plots of this kind are specifically motivated by accelerationism, the belief that creating conflict and unrest will hasten a broader societal clash, said Molly Conger, a researcher based in Charlottesville, Va., who covered the Collins-Kryscuk plot on her podcast, “Weird Little Guys.”

    “What they think will happen is that, if there’s a crisis, it will provide cover for violence, but it will also force normal people to engage in violence. And that’s not what will happen,” Conger said.

    Instead, she said, “All that will happen is old people who need their oxygen machines will die, and it will cost the energy company a billion dollars.”

    Blackouts resulting from other causes, such as natural disasters, have resulted in a number of deaths and costly damage in recent years. Winter Storm Uri, for example, caused widespread outages in Texas for multiple days in 2021 that left many Texans to confront unbearably cold indoor temperatures and posed a particular threat to residents with electronically powered medical equipment. Nearly 250 people died because of the storm and the resulting outages, which also caused tens of billions of dollars in estimated damages..................

     
    Optimus Prime said:
    can't read the article

    What did he say?
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    Here is an excerpt:
    Senator JD Vance of Ohio, former President Donald J. Trump’s running mate, appeared to backtrack on Tuesday on an outlandish false claim that he had promoted a day earlier saying that Haitian residents of Springfield, Ohio, were abducting and eating their neighbors’ pets.

    In a social media post on Tuesday morning, Mr. Vance said his office had “received many inquiries” about the false claims, but added that “it’s possible, of course, that all of these rumors will turn out to be false.”

    Local officials have found no evidence, credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed by Haitian residents, and a spokesman for Mr. Vance did not provide evidence to support the claim on Monday.
    But even as he acknowledged the possibility that the rumors were false, Mr. Vance encouraged his supporters to continue spreading them.
    “Don’t let the crybabies in the media dissuade you, fellow patriots. Keep the cat memes flowing,” Mr. Vance said, referencing a particularly gruesome false claim that came from a viral social media post.
     
    Nebaghead said:
    Here is an excerpt:
    Senator JD Vance of Ohio, former President Donald J. Trump’s running mate, appeared to backtrack on Tuesday on an outlandish false claim that he had promoted a day earlier saying that Haitian residents of Springfield, Ohio, were abducting and eating their neighbors’ pets.

    In a social media post on Tuesday morning, Mr. Vance said his office had “received many inquiries” about the false claims, but added that “it’s possible, of course, that all of these rumors will turn out to be false.”

    Local officials have found no evidence, credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed by Haitian residents, and a spokesman for Mr. Vance did not provide evidence to support the claim on Monday.
    But even as he acknowledged the possibility that the rumors were false, Mr. Vance encouraged his supporters to continue spreading them.
    “Don’t let the crybabies in the media dissuade you, fellow patriots. Keep the cat memes flowing,” Mr. Vance said, referencing a particularly gruesome false claim that came from a viral social media post.
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    This isn't in response to your post, but I think the media still hasn't learned it's lesson. This is the wrong way to go about responding too these outlandish claims by MAGA. Going into deep reporting isn't the answer, because these lies don't justify that deep reporting. All that does is give air to their claims. Walz had it absolutely correct, just call these guys out, tell them to prove it and then call them weird for engaging in all of this created stupidity.

    Trying to "prove" that their lying is besides the point. We already know they're lying, just point out the absurdity and dismiss it with a pithy attack that gets under their skin. Something like, "Vance and Republicans should worry more about Kristi Noam's dogs than imaginary cats being eaten by imaginary Hattians."
     
    Nebaghead said:
    Here is an excerpt:
    Senator JD Vance of Ohio, former President Donald J. Trump’s running mate, appeared to backtrack on Tuesday on an outlandish false claim that he had promoted a day earlier saying that Haitian residents of Springfield, Ohio, were abducting and eating their neighbors’ pets.

    In a social media post on Tuesday morning, Mr. Vance said his office had “received many inquiries” about the false claims, but added that “it’s possible, of course, that all of these rumors will turn out to be false.”

    Local officials have found no evidence, credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed by Haitian residents, and a spokesman for Mr. Vance did not provide evidence to support the claim on Monday.
    But even as he acknowledged the possibility that the rumors were false, Mr. Vance encouraged his supporters to continue spreading them.
    “Don’t let the crybabies in the media dissuade you, fellow patriots. Keep the cat memes flowing,” Mr. Vance said, referencing a particularly gruesome false claim that came from a viral social media post.
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    One wonders what Vance’s god has to say about lying.
     
    LA - L.A. said:
    Always remember that everything changes, so nothing lasts forever, including the shirtty stuff.
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    I'm hoping that maybe by the time my kids are my age things will be shifting so they have a finish line in sight that they can fight to reach.
     

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